Does Twitter/elon musk hate Somalis?

[indigoblack]

The world doesn’t revolve around Somalis .

You’re on crack if you think Elon Musk is sitting around thinking about how to pump anti-Somali content in the Algo


A lot of those stats are likely true for first-generation Somali immigrants

( Most people’s parents are Cab Drivers, Babysitters, Housewives, etc )

There’s a lot of Hooyo’s out here that lack English reading comprehension skills that’d pass a 5th grade level

These stats are going to change significantly within a decade though

The kids of these fobs have the opportunity to attend University & will level up their families income Inshallah . They won’t be as under-educated as their parent's were

 

[Sigmundd]

The world doesn’t revolve around Somalis

It certainly has for the last few months !!!!

 

[vivids]

On a serious note, caadans are crashing out & verbally abusing minorities online (can’t do it irl). Things will get worse after Jan 20th when Trump does nothing for them. Racism online doesn’t bother me (even false stats like this, the naturalization comment makes it obvious) and tweets like this won’t go away (btw there are tweets like this about all non caadan minorities going viral daily) so if you’re not planning on joining the community notes team (they tamper with that too) then please stop bringing these tweets here. I don’t care that some random guy in a flyover state hates me.

 

[Farsi]

On a serious note, caadans are crashing out & verbally abusing minorities online (can’t do it irl). Things will get worse after Jan 20th when Trump does nothing for them. Racism online doesn’t bother me (even false stats like this, the naturalization comment makes it obvious) and tweets like this won’t go away (btw there are tweets like this about all non caadan minorities going viral daily) so if you’re not planning on joining the community notes team (they tamper with that too) then please stop bringing these tweets here. I don’t care that some random guy in a flyover state hates me.

The 2010s BuzzFeed era really demonised cadaans just for existing. The amount of anti-white content that came from BuzzFeed contributed to the rise of reactionary racist movements online. It was all socially manufactured by the usual suspects.

 

[vivids]

The 2010s BuzzFeed era really demonised cadaans just for existing. The amount of anti-white content that came from BuzzFeed contributed to the rise of reactionary racist movements online. It was all socially manufactured by the usual suspects.

That’s not true. A buzzfeed video of a minority crying about racism or whatever is no big deal. Minorities freely speaking about white supremacy is not an evil tactic to smear caadans. Don’t fall for that meme, these people have always been racist and kept it to themselves until now.

 

[The truth seeker]

These people are so delusional Somalis are a extremely small minority and irrelevant outside of the minneapolis metro area

The worst performing group in the United States are native Americans and blacks there is no comparison

 

[Sigmundd]

These people are so delusional Somalis are a extremely small minority and irrelevant outside of the minneapolis metro area

The worst performing group in the United States are native Americans and blacks there is no comparison

We are targetted more because we are muslim and black.

 

[vivids]

These people are so delusional Somalis are a extremely small minority and irrelevant outside of the minneapolis metro area

The worst performing group in the United States are native Americans and blacks there is no comparison

I don’t think users understand how small our community is. There is less than 200k of us. Btw there are nearly 400k Hmongs. We are a minority within a minority.

 

[The truth seeker]

Somalis need to start becoming like Asian Americans with just 5 percent of the general American population the have the highest per capita income and barley receive any media attention which is ironic considering there is a decent amount of them in congress

The Asian American wealth gap, explained in a comic

The largest wealth gap in the country comes down to the history of Asian migration.

www.vox.com

Asian Immigrants Still Climbing in America

For the earlier period, economic history from Thomas Sowell provides a good picture.

www.forbes.com

 

[The truth seeker]

We are targetted more because we are muslim and black.

There is a large Black American Muslim community that has done a lot of controversial things regarding social rights Somalis just need to stop acting like fools on social media an we will be fine

Somalis need to stop thinking the world revolves around them we’re a small ethnic group and most of the reason we get flack is because of ourselves

 

[The truth seeker]

I don’t think users understand how small our community is. There is less than 200k of us. Btw there are nearly 400k Hmongs. We are a minority within a minority.

Minnesota a relatively small state(population economy wise ) has a population of 6 million there are more Mexicans than us in a white majority state


The Somali community where I grew up was like Samoans ignored and forgotten as Latinos dominate my home state

 

[vivids]

Somalis need to start becoming like Asian Americans with just 5 percent of the general American population the have the highest per capita income and barley receive any media attention which is ironic considering there is a decent amount of them in congress

The Asian American wealth gap, explained in a comic

The largest wealth gap in the country comes down to the history of Asian migration.

www.vox.com

Asian Immigrants Still Climbing in America

For the earlier period, economic history from Thomas Sowell provides a good picture.

www.forbes.com

Tjs do extremely well and they still post viral hate tweets about them and blame it on nepotism or some other garbage. These people operate based on hatred and nothing will change their minds. I’ve seen twitter threads were someone will say “this stat is false, here’s proof” and they’ll just respond with a racial slur. That whole iq/ses/racist side of twitter are former gifted kids who are seething about the world around them & do nothing but post on their substacks. Their opinions amount to nothing irl.

 

[Farsi]

That’s not true. A buzzfeed video of a minority crying about racism or whatever is no big deal. Minorities freely speaking about white supremacy is not some evil tactic to smear caadans. Don’t fall for that meme, these people have always been racist and kept it to themselves until now.

I agree with you, there were always racists, but they barely had the courage or influence back then like they do now. BuzzFeed would use ridiculous video titles like 'Questions asians, blacks, latinos, muslims etc Have for Whites . All the right-wing accounts on Twitter used to argue about reverse racism and why we shouldn’t pick on any race. Now, they're proud racists and love to mention it. A lot of these people started as leftist creators, like Elijah Schaffer and Gavin McInnes, who founded Vice and later left to create the Proud Boys. The majority of right-wing creators are grifters who started as woke progressives. It's like how Disney loves to race-swap characters, and the film gets negative publicity and black actress gets all the blame.

 

[vivids]

I agree with you, there were always racists, but they barely had the courage or influence back then like they do now. BuzzFeed would use ridiculous video titles like 'Questions asians, blacks, latinos, muslims etc Have for Whites . All the right-wing accounts on Twitter used to argue about reverse racism and why we shouldn’t pick on any race. Now, they're proud racists and love to mention it. A lot of these people started as leftist creators, like Elijah Schaffer and Gavin McInnes, who founded Vice and later left to create the Proud Boys. The majority of right-wing creators are grifters who started as woke progressives. It's like how Disney loves to race-swap characters, and the film gets negative publicity and black actress gets all the blame.

I kinda agree, kinda disagree. Yes, some of them are leftists who became rw because they were tired of the caadan guilt stuff but the majority are not and were confined to imageboards and racist forums before twitter changed.

 

[Idilinaa]

I was scrolling through Twitter and saw this randomly on my feed? It’s weird because anything to do with Somalis gets many views. I’m starting to believe what @Sigmundd etc were saying about the hate. Anti Somali rhetoric seems to be pushed more now. Just a thought

If you look at that account he is anti non-white communities and immigrants. He is raving on about black people and puerto ricans in many of his tweets. Spouting fake science around IQ points

But yeah white supremacist accounts and neo-nazis have grown by ten-fold since Elon took over the app.

Those stats are an abomination. It would have went viral if it were true for any group. The bigger problem is the data in the tweet and not that someone tweeted it.

Those stats are false Somalis don't have lowest income. I was planning on responding to a thread where @alexander brought it up but it was deleted. But most of Somali income come through informal channels that make a big chunk of their income under reported . Somali community actually in reality earn more.

Good way to demonstrate this, is to show that Somalis have lower food insecurity rate compared with other low income households like Hispanic and Black Americans.

We also don't have the lowest educational attainment. It's true that a large proportion of Somalis arrive without higher tier education, but once they arrive they out perform native communities like hispanics/black americans and perform closer to the national average through the school system

They don't mention this of course because it effectively debunks their Low IQ arguments

Mismeasurement of the Somali

It is entirely possible that Somalis have average IQs much higher than what has been thrown around on this board. I used state standardized test data for two high schools in Minnesota that are 100% Somali to show this possibility. The first is Ubah Medical Academy in Hopkins and the second is...

www.somalispot.com

Somalis in America also have higher employment rates and take the least amount of welfare , score higher than whites on the self-support index.

Rochester, Minn. / Many Somalis getting off welfare

Abdifatah Abdinur spoke no English when his family immigrated here in 1995, but he can still remember how embarrassed he was at needing food stamps. “Somali men and women like to be independe…

www.twincities.com

On the state's so-called "self-support index" -- based either on working at least 30 hours a week or departing from welfare altogether --Somalis in Dakota County are earning a rating of 80 percent vs. 72 percent for whites, she said.

Statewide, the figures are 78 percent for whites, 75 percent for Somalis, 76 percent for other African immigrants and 58 percent for U.S.-born blacks and American Indians. Hispanics -- most native-born -- and Asians, including Hmong, have rates in the same range as whites and African immigrants.

Also the fertility rate thing is BS as well. The 2nd generation immigrants have the same birth rate as the general population, so it essentially levels out for immigrant groups. But they have to create some replacement hysteria, so mentioning that part doesn't help them.

Also the fact that he said ' Highest Naturalization rates'' should show you what angers him is the fact that Somalis are becoming Americans and activelly participating in American civic life.

Elon Musk stopped banning people who write about race/iq/demographics. I read some of their articles and it's generally interesting work. Somali's perform extremely poorly in the US and Denmark.

Also, the main article which inspired the tweet was written by Emile Kirkegaard and he cited the article below. Unless Somali's stop selling themselves out with articles like this it'll never stop. Punjabi's make millions off of drugs and fraudulent merchandise in the UK and you'll never catch one of them writing about it.

A Somali-American former investigator: why you're hearing about fraud in my community • Minnesota Reformer

We must grapple with something that is uncomfortable and true: Nearly all of the defendants in the cases I’ve listed are from my community. The Somali community.

minnesotareformer.com

The man that wrote that article is a shill for the feds. Spoke about this before:

He definitely does sound like unempathetic shill for the feds . Just from this passage alone:
According to the FBI, the alleged conspirators prepared written arguments for juror 52. One argument read, “We are immigrants: they don’t respect or care about us.” Another stated: “Why why why is it always people of color and immigrants prosecuted for the fault of other people including Kara Lomen and even the Governor.”


He worked for them so it makes sense he would align with them.

Clan and familial connections are based on trust, credit, social accountability, reputation management, economic recipocality it's not something known to enable fraudulent activity by design, so he is wrong as there is tons of research into Somalis on that front.

Entrust We Must: The Role of "Trust" in Somali Economic Life​

https://research.cbs.dk/en/publications/entrust-we-must-the-role-of-trust-in-somali-economic-life

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Funding fraudsters? By paying their legal fees? lmaao why wouldn't Somalis support eachother and family members and help give them a fair shot at due process in the legal system?

He is also making false presumptions around Somalis based on the highly publicized Feeding our Future case, i have actually addressed it before and i am more than certain it is bogus and what they are doing much like they have done in the past is ethnic profiling and creating outlandish conspiracies by linking people solely by their background.



Fraud is not actually rampant in the community believe it or not. He mentions Feeding our Future as an example, while i can mention several cases where Somalis have been accused for fraud when there zero evidence to show for it. Time and Time again.

And what makes matters worse , some of those Somalis that were charged was found not guilty and more than half of the charges for the rest were found false by the jury.

It wasn't a lot of Somali doing fraud, the prosecution was just waving a broad brush and implicating people based solely on their ethnic background and familial connections:

Like i said in the other thread the presumption of innocence for Somalis is very important.

Not only the did the Jury find much of what the star witness of the prosecution said false but they acquitted the witness of all the charges like taking bribes and kick backs that they plead guilty to.

So they were essentially making people plead guilty to or testify to doing stuff in exchange for reduced sentences in things they themselves had never done. It fell apart during the defenses cross-examinations.

They also acquitted people of all charges that were operating legitimate companies and was just food distributors. Resteraunts, whole salers etc.

All of this is reported in this segment. The jury was shown photos and video evidence of food being stored, packaged and distributed.


For the defendants who were found guilty, they were acquitted on more than half of the charges that the prosecution made against them.

I am fairly certain that many involved are going to be found not guilty once this reaches appeals court.

 

[The truth seeker]

If you look at that account he is anti non-white communities and immigrants. He is raving on about black people and puerto ricans in many of his tweets. Spouting fake science around IQ points

But yeah white supremacist accounts and neo-nazis have grown by ten-fold since Elon took over the app.



Those stats are false Somalis don't have lowest income. I was planning on responding to a thread where @alexander brought it up but it was deleted. But most of Somali income come through informal channels that make a big chunk of their income under reported . Somali community actually in reality earn more.

Good way to demonstrate this, is to show that Somalis have lower food insecurity rate compared with other low income households like Hispanic and Black Americans.
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We also don't have the lowest educational attainment. It's true that a large proportion of Somalis arrive without higher tier education, but once they arrive they out perform native communities like hispanics/black americans and perform closer to the national average through the school system

They don't mention this of course because it effectively debunks their Low IQ arguments

Mismeasurement of the Somali

It is entirely possible that Somalis have average IQs much higher than what has been thrown around on this board. I used state standardized test data for two high schools in Minnesota that are 100% Somali to show this possibility. The first is Ubah Medical Academy in Hopkins and the second is...

www.somalispot.com

Somalis in America also have higher employment rates and take the least amount of welfare , score higher than whites on the self-support index.

Rochester, Minn. / Many Somalis getting off welfare

Abdifatah Abdinur spoke no English when his family immigrated here in 1995, but he can still remember how embarrassed he was at needing food stamps. “Somali men and women like to be independe…

www.twincities.com

Also the fertility rate thing is BS as well. The 2nd generation immigrants have the same birth rate as the general population, so it essentially levels out for immigrant groups. But they have to create some replacement hysteria, so mentioning that part doesn't help them.

Also the fact that he said ' Highest Naturalization rates'' should show you what angers him is the fact that Somalis are becoming Americans and activelly participating in American civic life.





The man that wrote that article is a shill for the feds. Spoke about this before:


And what makes matters worse , some of those Somalis that were charged was found not guilty and more than half of the charges for the rest were found false by the jury.

It wasn't a lot of Somali doing fraud, the prosecution was just waving a broad brush and implicating people based solely on their ethnic background and familial connections:

This guy is ignoring the fact that his ancestors where European immigrants and native Americans have the highest poverty level by a large margin

What Drives Native American Poverty?: Institute for Policy Research - Northwestern University

Across the U.S., 1 in 3 Native Americans are living in poverty, with a median income of $23,000 a year. Beth Redbird presented her research on what has been driving this poverty rate among Native Americans at a January 29 seminar. It was co-sponsored by the Center for Native American and...

www.ipr.northwestern.edu

Asian Americans out earn whites so I don’t know what this guy is ranting about similar things could be said about whites (Biggest welfare receivers in america per capita )

 

[Sueeeeeee]

On a serious note, caadans are crashing out & verbally abusing minorities online (can’t do it irl). Things will get worse after Jan 20th when Trump does nothing for them. Racism online doesn’t bother me (even false stats like this, the naturalization comment makes it obvious) and tweets like this won’t go away (btw there are tweets like this about all non caadan minorities going viral daily) so if you’re not planning on joining the community notes team (they tamper with that too) then please stop bringing these tweets here. I don’t care that some random guy in a flyover state hates me.

I joined community notes but you’re right. Only going to get worse.

 

[Farsi]

I kinda agree, kinda disagree. Yes, some of them are leftists who became rw because they were tired of the caadan guilt stuff but the majority are not and were confined to imageboards and racist forums before twitter changed.

I'm strictly talking about their creators, not the fanbase. Look at Sneako's content, or even Jackson Hinkle, Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, and Tim Pool the list goes on. If you look at their original content, they were progressive as hell. The last few years have seen a massive wave of grifters moving to the right side of the political spectrum.

 

[Aurelian]

Those stats are an abomination. It would have went viral if it were true for any group. The bigger problem is the data in the tweet and not that someone tweeted it.

Elon Musk stopped banning people who write about race/iq/demographics. I read some of their articles and it's generally interesting work. Somali's perform extremely poorly in the US and Denmark.

Also, the main article which inspired the tweet was written by Emile Kirkegaard and he cited the article below. Unless Somali's stop selling themselves out with articles like this it'll never stop. Punjabi's make millions off of drugs and fraudulent merchandise in the UK and you'll never catch one of them writing about it.

A Somali-American former investigator: why you're hearing about fraud in my community • Minnesota Reformer

We must grapple with something that is uncomfortable and true: Nearly all of the defendants in the cases I’ve listed are from my community. The Somali community.

minnesotareformer.com

I mean there are tens of thousands of frauds happening in the US, few of them are Somali, I believe there were 3-5 frauds so far we heard of in the news? So, why the Somali American frauds get labelled as Somali frauds, but White, Black, Asian, Chinese, etc American labelled as just fraud?

 

[Sueeeeeee]

If you look at that account he is anti non-white communities and immigrants. He is raving on about black people and puerto ricans in many of his tweets. Spouting fake science around IQ points

But yeah white supremacist accounts and neo-nazis have grown by ten-fold since Elon took over the app.



Those stats are false Somalis don't have lowest income. I was planning on responding to a thread where @alexander brought it up but it was deleted. But most of Somali income come through informal channels that make a big chunk of their income under reported . Somali community actually in reality earn more.

Good way to demonstrate this, is to show that Somalis have lower food insecurity rate compared with other low income households like Hispanic and Black Americans.
View attachment 350962
View attachment 350963


We also don't have the lowest educational attainment. It's true that a large proportion of Somalis arrive without higher tier education, but once they arrive they out perform native communities like hispanics/black americans and perform closer to the national average through the school system

They don't mention this of course because it effectively debunks their Low IQ arguments

Mismeasurement of the Somali

It is entirely possible that Somalis have average IQs much higher than what has been thrown around on this board. I used state standardized test data for two high schools in Minnesota that are 100% Somali to show this possibility. The first is Ubah Medical Academy in Hopkins and the second is...

www.somalispot.com

Somalis in America also have higher employment rates and take the least amount of welfare , score higher than whites on the self-support index.

Rochester, Minn. / Many Somalis getting off welfare

Abdifatah Abdinur spoke no English when his family immigrated here in 1995, but he can still remember how embarrassed he was at needing food stamps. “Somali men and women like to be independe…

www.twincities.com

Also the fertility rate thing is BS as well. The 2nd generation immigrants have the same birth rate as the general population, so it essentially levels out for immigrant groups. But they have to create some replacement hysteria, so mentioning that part doesn't help them.

Also the fact that he said ' Highest Naturalization rates'' should show you what angers him is the fact that Somalis are becoming Americans and activelly participating in American civic life.





The man that wrote that article is a shill for the feds. Spoke about this before:


And what makes matters worse , some of those Somalis that were charged was found not guilty and more than half of the charges for the rest were found false by the jury.

It wasn't a lot of Somali doing fraud, the prosecution was just waving a broad brush and implicating people based solely on their ethnic background and familial connections:

Perfectly said. Thanks for the info .