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Does Twitter/elon musk hate Somalis?
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Abdisamad
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I guess he want to return the apartheid back to the world..
Why don't you guys join the competitor to twitter and leave Elon Musk's retarded nation to themselves? The guy is a literal a handicap and has a 15 year old maturity level. Have you seen him jump up and down on a trump rally platform with his fat belly falling out of his pants?
Unfortunately, millions of Americans are just as retarded as Elon Musk.
Unfortunately, millions of Americans are just as retarded as Elon Musk.
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Dalac Bilaash
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Why don't you guys move to Bluesky it's actually better twitter
That is where millions of former twitter users migrated to. I am hoping african americans who heavily use twitter will move away from Elon and to Bluesky. Afterwards, there will be purely white supremacists consuming piles of their putrid. It will be another forgotten dark alley like Gab platform.
The alchemist
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Somali male immigrants in the US had a higher employment rate than the average person in America in 2014 numbers.Those stats are an abomination. It would have went viral if it were true for any group. The bigger problem is the data in the tweet and not that someone tweeted it.
Elon Musk stopped banning people who write about race/iq/demographics. I read some of their articles and it's generally interesting work. Somali's perform extremely poorly in the US and Denmark.
Also, the main article which inspired the tweet was written by Emile Kirkegaard and he cited the article below. Unless Somali's stop selling themselves out with articles like this it'll never stop. Punjabi's make millions off of drugs and fraudulent merchandise in the UK and you'll never catch one of them writing about it.
A Somali-American former investigator: why you're hearing about fraud in my community • Minnesota Reformer
We must grapple with something that is uncomfortable and true: Nearly all of the defendants in the cases I’ve listed are from my community. The Somali community.minnesotareformer.com
Somalis are well within the labor market expectations. And to be honest, I rarely see Somalis in their adulthood who were raised here, including the FOBs, being out of school or jobs.
But what the 2014 number showed that is masked here, is that Somali males work at ~85% rate while women are a bit lower than normal so it averages out at seeming below the average. It does not take away that the Somali men did work more than the average White person in America. That is a fact. The women were about 64%.
As you see, Somali men work more than the national average.
I found one statistic from the main governmental page of Minnesota that placed labor participation at 75%, averaging between males and females. Males had slightly decreased their labor participation and females improved nicely in the later numbers, being slightly above Indian and Chinese women:
I have other corroborating evidence from a thesis:
"But the labour market opportunities for the group are better in Minnesota, both because of the food processing industry and the Somalis own businesses, leaving the Somali immigrants in Minnesota with higher employment rates. Stigmatizing of the group based on skin colour and religion are obstacles that need to be overcome in both societies. However, the example of unusually high employment rates among Somali immigrants in Hammerfest, Norway, shows that whenever works are available, also for immigrants with lower education and scarce language skills, the Somali immigrants in both societies integrate seemingly well into the labour market."
As far as crime goes, these far-right guys like to fearmonger against Somalis in Minnesota. I did the numbers when you control for age, sex, and family size -- only 15% of the male youth between 15 and early 20s do crime. While the rest do the same or even less than the national average.
If you average that out, it will shrink in size making Somalis have a 5% crime rate among Somalis or something. That is a stretch, probably close to 3.7%. I did these numbers from gang-related numbers that the state has roughly attested.
The issue is that Somali goofy gang activity is sensationalized and they live in some relatively impoverished hotspot areas in Minneapolis that racist whites like to hyper-fixate on, magnifying the focus as if the Somalis are special problem people. Gangs are driven by youth, most people exit the lifestyle by their early 20s. So even those 15% of males, within an age range, eventually exit.
The incarceration rate of "Black" people in prisons is 34% while only 5.4% of them are Muslim - Somalis make up 7.3% of the Minnesotan immigrant population. This alone debunks the notion that Somalis are extremely overrepresented, as I have seen crazy numbers by racists. I can guarantee we're not the entire 5.4%:
The ones who commit the most crime in Minnesota are Native Americans by far. Yet you never hear about it. And you should not, to be honest. Those people usually live in miskeen conditions given lands that are not productive off in the margins where economic flow is very limited.
Let's not get into the high-human capital bullshit. Americans have only cared for the productivity of their immigrants -- if they produce net positive results -- not if they have a Ph.D. Historically, immigrants that come with high skills are seen as a competition and not always as a positive; look how Indians are treated. We can't move the goalpost.
Besides, the Somali immigrant population has the lowest median age at 19 years! Nearly half the population are children. You can't compare that to American Whites that are 42 years old or other immgigrants that are well into the 30s.
You will see in the next generation that the number of graduates double or more. Other immigrants already have educational prerequisites. Those people might even have higher education from their parents who came for education specifically or came to the country with a very firm scholastic aspiration, having strong familiarity with their home countries. Many of these people came for ambition, not for survival. We will level soon. This naturally takes time.
We have heard a lot of unfounded claims made on this forum over the years. That Somali men don't work or contribute financially. That Somalis are no different than African Americans. Somali men have more than 20% higher labor force participation than African American males - it's the African American women that drive up the numbers. After looking at the data, you can never say that ever again, whoever you are. Not to put African Americans down, they have their unique issues that Somalis should not even compare to in the first place. I'm not here to do what these racist cadaans do to us to make us look better by throwing others under the bus. It's just basically debunking arguments used here.
The reason racists use bad statistics in different countries is because they want to stigmatize and brand the entire ethnic group, no matter where they are. I used the American numbers to set the record straight.
Not only did i actually address those stats.
Those stats are false Somalis don't have lowest income. I was planning on responding to a thread where @alexander brought it up but it was deleted. But most of Somali income come through informal channels that make a big chunk of their income under reported . Somali community actually in reality earn more.
Good way to demonstrate this, is to show that Somalis have lower food insecurity rate compared with other low income households like Hispanic and Black Americans.
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We also don't have the lowest educational attainment. It's true that a large proportion of Somalis arrive without higher tier education, but once they arrive they out perform native communities like hispanics/black americans and perform closer to the national average through the school system
They don't mention this of course because it effectively debunks their Low IQ arguments
Mismeasurement of the Somali
It is entirely possible that Somalis have average IQs much higher than what has been thrown around on this board. I used state standardized test data for two high schools in Minnesota that are 100% Somali to show this possibility. The first is Ubah Medical Academy in Hopkins and the second is...www.somalispot.com
Somalis in America also have higher employment rates and take the least amount of welfare , score higher than whites on the self-support index.
Rochester, Minn. / Many Somalis getting off welfare
Abdifatah Abdinur spoke no English when his family immigrated here in 1995, but he can still remember how embarrassed he was at needing food stamps. “Somali men and women like to be independe…www.twincities.com
Also the fertility rate thing is BS as well. The 2nd generation immigrants have the same birth rate as the general population, so it essentially levels out for immigrant groups. But they have to create some replacement hysteria, so mentioning that part doesn't help them.
Also the fact that he said ' Highest Naturalization rates'' should show you what angers him is the fact that Somalis are becoming Americans and activelly participating in American civic life.
Let me give you another stat. Only 20% of Somali households in America compared with 31% of Asian/White are single parents and they on average have like 3 kids per household.
So most Somalis grow up in two-parent households 70-80%. The fact that Somalis have high rates of two-parent households compared with hispanic and black american communities is always cited as being for cultural reasons.
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Pseudo-intellectualism paired with dubious statistics, as usual. I would say ignore them. This requires no argument. They are so formulaic and hackneyed in their responses. You can tell their radicalization and brainwashing are highly effective since they sound like they rolled off the same toxic side of the supremacist assembly line.
