Dr Hodan Isse should run for PL presidency.
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More chance of me becoming the president of the United States than a woman becoming president of Dal Udug.
Ive always been curious, what does that name mean and where does it come crom?
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There's no point looking at others for a precedent to create a democratic system for your country, there's one closer to home that despite its setbacks has created a system that kinda works: I'm talking about Somaliland but straightaway I can sense the hate flowing in you upon the utterance of the term aside from all your hate look at the system they've build since 1993.
Somaliland has a hybrid system of governance combining traditional and western institutions. In a series of inter-clan conferences, culminating in the Borama Conference in 1993, a qabil (clan or community) system of government was constructed, which consisted of an Executive, with a President, Vice President, and legislative government; a bicameral Legislature; and an independent judiciary. The traditional Somali elderates (guurti) was incorporated into the governance structure and formed the upper house, responsible for managing internal conflicts. Government became in essence a "power-sharing coalition of Somaliland's main clans," with seats in the Upper and Lower houses proportionally allocated to clans according to a pre-determined formula. In 2002, after several extensions of this interim government, Somaliland finally made the transition to multi-party democracy, with district council elections contested by six parties
For its first twelve years, Somaliland had no political parties but instead followed more traditional clan-based forms of political organization. Political parties were introduced during the presidential elections and it was hoped that the recent parliamentary elections would help to usher in a representative system without allowing representation to be overtly clan-based.
District elections then held determined which parties were allowed to contest the parliamentary and presidential elections, where a party was required to demonstrate at least twenty percent of the popular vote from four out of the six regions. This was designed to ensure that parties would not organize around ethnic lines. Three parties were selected to submit presidential candidates: the United Democratic Peoples’ Party (UDUB), Kulmiye, and the Party for Justice and Welfare (UCID). On April 14, 2003, 488,543[citation needed] voters participated in the presidential elections, which ran more or less smoothly. The result was a slim eighty vote controversial victory for UDUB over the Kulmiye, complicated by allegations of ballot stuffing against the incumbent UDUB. Despite calls for the Kulmiye to form a rival government, the party’s leadership did not do so, instead choosing to abide by the Supreme Court ruling that declared UDUB’s victory. Despite minor demonstrations, the transition to the presidency of Dahir Riyale Kahin proceeded peacefully. A traditional system of governance consisted of clan elders who go by titles such as sultans, guurti or akils. They usually ordered the paying of diya, which is a payment system for any grievances, or dealt in arbitration matters.[2]
Somaliland has a hybrid system of governance combining traditional and western institutions. In a series of inter-clan conferences, culminating in the Borama Conference in 1993, a qabil (clan or community) system of government was constructed, which consisted of an Executive, with a President, Vice President, and legislative government; a bicameral Legislature; and an independent judiciary. The traditional Somali elderates (guurti) was incorporated into the governance structure and formed the upper house, responsible for managing internal conflicts. Government became in essence a "power-sharing coalition of Somaliland's main clans," with seats in the Upper and Lower houses proportionally allocated to clans according to a pre-determined formula. In 2002, after several extensions of this interim government, Somaliland finally made the transition to multi-party democracy, with district council elections contested by six parties
For its first twelve years, Somaliland had no political parties but instead followed more traditional clan-based forms of political organization. Political parties were introduced during the presidential elections and it was hoped that the recent parliamentary elections would help to usher in a representative system without allowing representation to be overtly clan-based.
District elections then held determined which parties were allowed to contest the parliamentary and presidential elections, where a party was required to demonstrate at least twenty percent of the popular vote from four out of the six regions. This was designed to ensure that parties would not organize around ethnic lines. Three parties were selected to submit presidential candidates: the United Democratic Peoples’ Party (UDUB), Kulmiye, and the Party for Justice and Welfare (UCID). On April 14, 2003, 488,543[citation needed] voters participated in the presidential elections, which ran more or less smoothly. The result was a slim eighty vote controversial victory for UDUB over the Kulmiye, complicated by allegations of ballot stuffing against the incumbent UDUB. Despite calls for the Kulmiye to form a rival government, the party’s leadership did not do so, instead choosing to abide by the Supreme Court ruling that declared UDUB’s victory. Despite minor demonstrations, the transition to the presidency of Dahir Riyale Kahin proceeded peacefully. A traditional system of governance consisted of clan elders who go by titles such as sultans, guurti or akils. They usually ordered the paying of diya, which is a payment system for any grievances, or dealt in arbitration matters.[2]
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Gibiin-Udug
Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
I think it got the name because of the frankincense. But I could be wrong.
I would like to know how and isn't the whole point of a democracy is that anyone can run.
In an ideal world I would like Puntland & Somaliand along with the rest of Somalia to come together sort their shit out and accept Somaliland's independence and from this Somaliland can start to assist the others in now the election Puntland want to hold for a new president since Somaliland bought the equipment to register people for their elections by registering with Eyes & finger print electronically they can loan it to Puntland and have Somaliland's Electoral Commission help in registering people there and distributing / producing voter cards as well as the elections
Gibiin-Udug
Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
Nope.
Puntland is light years ahead of SL in terms of governance and accepting outcomes. Gaas defeated Faroole by one vote margin and power transfer happened smoothly. The new parliament speaker of SL defeated his contender by one vote margin and they beat him up and hold him at gun point. Your parliament and deputy speaker beat each up on camera. You're in no way to help others.
That's right, locally the land was called Dal-udug way before the establishment of the first sultanate which name we adopted and stopped using Dal-udug
More chance of me becoming the president of the United States than a woman becoming president of Dal Udug.
Actually Asha Gelle once came 4th beating most men in presidential elections, so yeah there is a chance of a woman becoming prez
Okay then asnwer this question: How was Gaas elected by the populace or by a select few. Because I don't seem to remember news of people all across puntland queuing up to cast their ballots
That's right, locally the land was called Dal-udug way before the establishment of the first sultanate which name we adopted and stopped using Dal-udug
Dal-Udug, Wallahi thats an epic name. So it the frankincense thing right?
Also, was that name just for MJ lands or did it also include Warsangeli and Beggarbantes lands?
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Our system works for us. I don't seem to remember Puntland leaders fighting each other in the parliament like bunch of monkeys or carrying guns in the sacred parliament like MPs are members of Crips and Bloods. Wearing the wrong colour in the SL parliament can get you killed.
No Warsans had their own sultanate called Maakhir which ruled all warsan lands exept for eastern Bari and no dhullos at included at all
Dal-udug name comes from this tree geedka beeyada which frankincense comes from and that whole area smells of frankincense!
Still waiting for an answer, have the citizens ever voted. If not then it's not light years ahead. Being an observer of puntland I've noticed that everything still revolves around the the president and his cronies where nothing can really get done without his say so.
Whereas in Somaliland you see Towns Cities Villages tasked with administering themselves of the central government coffers and only asking hargeisa when in need of more funds. Like when Xudun & Badhan needed medical supplies for the state hospital. They pleaded & Hargeisa answered took a while but it happened.
Talking about the fight recently in parliament this happens all over the world just look at Kuwait's Parliament they constantly do as well as Taiwan and a handful of others. This shows that each man is free to challenge if he believe the system is going against him. And as you may know that was one day with the matter being resolved.
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