Dr. Umar Reaction To Guinean President White Wife 🤣

[World]

@Nilotic Something that has struck me.


African men and even other ethnic men have incredible low self esteem compared to white men. What struck me is that for at least a hundred years now, head of states of colonized lands be it Africans or Arabs or Asians have been marrying white women and making them into First Ladies or queens. White men in higher up places like prime ministers, cabinet ministers and royal families would be scandalized at the idea of elevating a non white woman. Only in very modern history do we have the likes of Meghan Markle and she’s been abused, yet you have the leaders of Botswana marrying a white woman nearly 80yrs ago making her his First Lady. You have stories of African and Arab monarchies who married white women who made them their queen whilst the colored men in the UK/US would be near enough lynched for going for one and upper class white men looked at ethnic women only being fit for undercover dalliances and being taken advantage off.

This is a disingenuous post.

Botswana was colonised in 1885 and gained independence in 1966. A “leader” of Botswana marrying a white woman 23 years before independence would be ideal for the British as the country will be easier to control.

It’s like you’re blaming non white people for post colonialism and bragging about how superior Europeans are.

 

[Angelina]

These sentiments of entitlement to a collective are what partly fuel the incel epidemic. People are individuals, it's nobodies duty to protect strangers. God tells us to protect your family is all.

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[Angelina]

This is a disingenuous post.

Botswana was colonised in 1885 and gained independence in 1966. A “leader” of Botswana marrying a white woman 23 years before independence would be ideal for the British as the country will be easier to control.

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It’s like you’re blaming non white people for post colonialism and bragging about how superior Europeans are.

I’m not following, since did white men ever want their women being with a madow? Before or even after? It went against their moral code to be madows. This was when the apartheid was at its height. The English made him exile because of his marriage! This man lost his position as Chief in the beginning!

There was a moral panic and outrage. South Africa was livid as they felt it threatened their apartheid order and Conservative party members in the UK voiced disgust. Also, the UK needed South Africa on their side as South Africa provided Uranium. It wasn’t as smooth sailing as it benefiting the UK. They were as all sources make sure to highlight, disgusted.

So what are you on about?

 

[World]

I’m not following, since did white men ever want their women being with a madow? Before or even after? It went against their moral code to be madows. This was when the apartheid was at its height.

Colonial powers prefer to have European women to be married to the leaders of their ex colonies. We’re not talking about morals here, but world domination and post colonialism.

For example, in Guinea, the former President Alpha Condé was building close relationships with China, Russia and Turkey. Western media, started building a media campaign against him. Then followed a military coup supported by the French and the West, in which Mamady Doumbouya took power.

Here is the first lady of Guinea now:

Of course she is employed by the French police and has close ties with the French government, including the President.

Why the hell would colonial powers not use every available tool to help them gain access and exploit the rich natural resources of African countries? Because muh race mixing?

In South Africa, they had to choose between gaining more control over Botswana or severing ties with the most powerful African country.

 

[Angelina]

Colonial powers prefer to have European women to be married to the leaders of their ex colonies. We’re not talking about morals here, but world domination and post colonialism.

For example, in Guinea, the former President Alpha Condé was building close relationships with China, Russia and Turkey. Western media, started building a media campaign against him. Then followed a military coup supported by the French and the West, in which Mamady Doumbouya took power.

Here is the first lady of Guinea now:
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[World]

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I edited my post to include South Africa.

BTW, interracial marriage has never been illegal in the UK. There were even Somali sailors married to British woman 120 years ago. So this idea that the UK would be against interracial marriage for “morals” is ludicrous. It already was happening! So why not use it as a tool for more control over ex colonies? This “coon” argument also makes no sense. Are orphan Somalis that were turned into Christians by colonial churches also coons?

 

[Angelina]

I edited my post to include South Africa.

BTW, interracial marriage has never been illegal in the UK. There were even Somali sailors married to British woman 120 years ago. So this idea that the UK would be against interracial marriage for “morals” is ludicrous. It already was happening! So why not use it as a tool for more control over ex colonies?

The UK needed South Africa for their Uranium hence why they were against the marriage. The marriage was in fact an inconvenience, a nuisance and a big one at that as if threatened their interests in creating atomic weapons. Also, it did indeed go against their ‘morals’. IR for the most part was contained and seen as something that happened in poor working class areas by poor women with bad reps. Now this marriage was putting something they found disgusting on the world stage. An event that could not be brushed under the carpet. Hence how the South Africans found out about it. It wasn’t the case of a
Poor Somali sailor marrying a working class unknown girl.

As for your other point, British and Yemeni men married to Somali men only happened in the very early days in port cities in working class areas like Tiger Bay and Sheffield Docks. It was seen as incredibly controversial @World. Have you heard of the 1919 race riots? It was because of Yemeni, Chinese and African men marrying those women.
Also, those women were abused and had their passports taken away from them and were given alien status. They would also conduct experiments on their kids to see if mixed kids produced low IQ individuals. By the way, they would also randomly deport the husbands of these women without notice and these women would think they were abandoned.

Politicians at the time worked hard to try and make it illegal and the general consensus at the time was that women who married foreign men were akin prozzes. There was moral panic with regards to mixed kids and how it would ruin the white race. In 1958, there was also a massive riot in Nottinghill because of a Jamaican man and his white wife.

Really and truly outside of port cities, IR only started to become more mainstream albeit frowned upon in the 60s with TV shows showing black/white relationships which still scandalized the masses.


There is a fantastic documentary on it from the BBC I’ll send you the link if you’re interested.

 

[World]

The President of Guinea only joined the armed forces of Guinea in 2018, 3 years before taking control of the country. His military career for 15 years before that was with the French. His white wife is likewise employed by the French national police and has close ties with French President. The French supported his coup because the democratically elected President was building close relationships with China, Russia and Turkey.

But yes let’s instead blame African men for being insecure, lacking self esteem and wanting mixed babies, instead of the fact that he’s a hand picked puppet used to exploit the natural resources of Guinea.

 

[Juke]

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The quran is clear in that gheerah pertains to protecting the honor of your family, not strangers.

You're trying to gender the motivations and losing the point. Entitlement in terms of believing a male stranger owes you something to the point he should risk his own well being for your well being just because he happens to share the same race or ethnicity. A common race/ethnicity is the object of entitlement.

 

[Angelina]

The President of Guinea only joined the armed forces of Guinea in 2018, 3 years before taking control of the country. His military career for 15 years before that was with the French. His white wife is likewise employed by the French national police and has close ties with French President. The French supported his coup because the democratically elected President was building close relationships with China, Russia and Turkey.

But yes let’s instead blame African men for being insecure, lacking self esteem and wanting mixed babies, instead of the fact that he’s a hand picked puppet used to exploit the natural resources of Guinea.

Yh and your point makes it worse. Why do we have a lot of hand picked puppets? Why is it that historically many of them weren’t even handpicked as they were the sons of Kings such as the First President of Botswana who were always groomed for leadership, but he still chose the ‘love’ of a basic white woman and even got exiled from his own nation? His own people kicked him out for bit as well?!

No matter how you spin it, your narrative falls apart. Also, @World, the west have their control of a lot of African countries without needing to send their women to them. Look at the continent, most of the leaders are currently married to black women and they’re still being controlled. Hence again your argument falls apart. The West can control them without a white woman in sight.

This is cope shit and lack of accountability.

 

[Angelina]

The quran is clear in that gheerah pertains to protecting the honor of your family, not strangers.

I know, which is why I mentioned Hadiths which you conveniently ignored. There is no denying that there is a tradition of men protecting the Muslim woman of the Ummah. There is the famous story of the Sahabi that fought a gaal for trying to dishonor a Muslima. That is seen as the ideal and as such celebrated.

You're trying to gender the motivations and losing the point. Entitlement in terms of believing a male stranger owes you something to the point he should risk his own well being for your well being just because he happens to share the same race or ethnicity. A common race/ethnicity is the object of entitlement.

It might be entitlement, but this sentiment is found in most cultures and religions. You can’t take say that Islam doesn’t have that.
Anyone with even a basic understanding knows this.

 

[Juke]

I know, which is why I mentioned Hadiths which you conveniently ignored. There is no denying that there is a tradition of men protecting the Muslim woman of the Ummah. There is the famous story of the Sahabi that fought a gaal for trying to dishonor a Muslima. That is seen as the ideal and as such celebrated.

It might be entitlement, but this sentiment is found in most cultures and religions. You can’t take say that Islam doesn’t have that.
Anyone with even a basic understanding knows this.

It doesn't take much to parse out the femcel gatekeeping rationale behind your posts in this thread. Good luck to any sucker that buys into it.

 

[Angelina]

It doesn't take much to parse out the femcel gatekeeping rationale behind your posts in this thread. Good luck to any sucker that buys into it.

It isn’t femcell tbh, are we going to deny that most cultures don’t operate that way? Regardless of I or your opinions most men do look out for their own.

Also, this has nothing to with ‘gatekeeping’. I don’t care what and who random men marry. But regardless of your labeling, looking down at your people and thinking white men or women are better is definitely a form of self-hatred. I’d tell a Xalimo that talks about the superiority of white men as being a weirdo as well. Although something tells me, you’d have a completely different opinion of it if it were a woman going on about how women naturally prefer white men as women gravitate towards stability and power.

 

[Hamzza]

There is the famous story of the Sahabi that fought a gaal for trying to dishonor a Muslima. That is seen as the ideal and as such celebrated.

This reminds me the story of Khalif Mu'tasim. He sent a whole army to save a Muslim girl abducted by the Romans.

 

[Angelina]

This reminds me the story of Khalif Mu'tasim. He sent a whole army to save a Muslim girl abducted by the Romans.

I know that story! Amazing. It’s like the point I was making. You can’t be using Allah when it comes to men not having protective instincts towards Muslima’s when so many of our Islamic traditions points to stories of men protecting Muslim women, children and the weak. It has always been about protecting the wider community. Islam isn’t an individualistic religion.

 

[World]

Yh and your point makes it worse. Why do we have a lot of hand picked puppets? Why is it that historically many of them weren’t even handpicked as they were the sons of Kings such as the First President of Botswana who were always groomed for leadership, but he still chose the ‘love’ of a basic white woman and even got exiled from his own nation? His own people kicked him out for bit as well?!

Why do you seem to think it’s difficult for the West, after 81 years of colonisation, to hand pick a leader that will work against their nation’s interest and instead be a puppet for the West? We’re talking about 3 generations of every institution and education centre being controlled by the West. In those 3 generations, 70 % of the population were converted to Christianity. They created an entire educated higher class of native people taught by colonialists who will eventually rule the country.

@World, the west have their control of a lot of African countries without needing to send their women to them. Look at the continent, most of the leaders are currently married to black women and they’re still being controlled. Hence again your argument falls apart. The West can control them without a white woman in sight.

This is cope shit and lack of accountability.

The country with the most effective control of African countries is France, and the highest incidence of white women married to African leaders is France. It’s not a coincidence.

 

[Angelina]

Why do you seem to think it’s difficult for the West, after 81 years of colonisation, to hand pick a leader that will work against their nation’s interest and instead be a puppet for the West? We’re talking about 3 generations of every institution and education centre being controlled by the West. In those 3 generations, 70 % of the population were converted to Christianity.

And why would you then in turn believe that they also need to add in a white wife to ‘handpick’ leaders? A lot of African leaders are indeed ‘handpicked’ you’re right but the West managed that without having to send their women off like some sort of package deal.

The country with the most control of African countries is France, and the highest incidence of white women married to African leaders is France. It’s not a coincidence.

Even then, the vast majority were and are married to black women and guess what? They were still handpicked. The French do not need to give their women to these men. A man that is willing to sell his people for French motives despite being a black man clearly believes in white supremacy in all aspects of his life. He’s a coon. White ruler ship, white wife, white is ultimately right!

And sadly we have a lot of men like that in Africa. Inviting Western powerhouses and being picked by them to do their bidding. Regardless as to how you spin it, it’s bad.

 

[Juke]

This reminds me the story of Khalif Mu'tasim. He sent a whole army to save a Muslim girl abducted by the Romans.

Isn't that apart of the normal capacity of the state's army/police force. Quite different than a private citizen fighting for a random.

 

[GemState]

Even the favorite concubines of the Tang emperors were Sogdian females. The European colonialism vaulting up whiteness is a dumb and lazy cope. Its simply sexual dimorphism.

@Angelina is at the middle

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina is at the middle

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Self love. Think Somalis and other horners are the best looking. At the end of the day, it’s all subjective. You can never prove that cadaans are the best looking and tbh unless you’re a white man or woman, you look like an idiot co-signing that. Even the argument that you tried to use with regards to the Ottomans wasn’t smart as you left out the fact that the Ottoman’s were predominantly of European background and were generally the son’s of white women.