East Africans Minnesota Ruining Their Lives

After being in the west for 20-30 years we should be doing way better than we are now Asians who came from war torn Vietnam and Laos in the 70s opened up small shops and through hard work and business savvy saved up enough money for there kids to go to a state university and bought huge homes in the suburbs

If you go to a ghetto anywhere in america what do you see an Arab gas station and liquor store we need to adopt this ambitious mentality of being willing to make money in any environment and stop looking down on manual Labour nothing good in life comes easy

The ultimate goal in life for any refuge or immigrant is to achieve the American dream if your happy living in low income subsided housing for the rest of your life might as well go back to Somalia
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Where are you from? I’m not sure about kids in Europe, but in America, they’re a lost cause. Back in the day, kids had hoop dreams, Dugsi was much stricter, and parents were far more disciplined in raising their children. Today, kids look up to rappers and drug dealers, religion isn’t as central to their lives, and many parents have essentially retired from parenting, leaving the responsibility to older siblings.
Canada. I don't live in Toronto so my experience is with Somalis in the other cities and Alberta suburbs. But yeah one thing I noticed with this miskeen kids their parents were very involved in their education and everything. Even their siblings were. Shit its that bad? I feel like back in the day we had more of a community the younger kids had older kids who were studious to look up too. Now the community is dead. Though I'd say my parents and Siblings are still strict with education. I still get told to go study ... And so are my Aunts/uncles their kids have good degrees and salaries.
 

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Canada. I don't live in Toronto so my experience is with Somalis in the other cities and Alberta suburbs. But yeah one thing I noticed with this miskeen kids their parents were very involved in their education and everything. Even their siblings were. Shit its that bad? I feel like back in the day we had more of a community the younger kids had older kids who were studious to look up too. Now the community is dead. Though I'd say my parents and Siblings are still strict with education. I still get told to go study ... And so are my Aunts/uncles their kids have good degrees and salaries.
Community is dead now sxb, we will throw all sorts of free events for these kids and nobody will show up. It’s because the things we were interested in no longer interests them. For example, If you throw a free basketball tournament and say the winners get a free trip to play in another tournament, I promise you like 25 kids will show up out of the thousands.
 
After being in the west for 20-30 years we should be doing way better than we are now Asians who came from war torn Vietnam and Laos in the 70s opened up small shops and through hard work and business savvy saved up enough money for there kids to go to a state university and bought huge homes in the suburbs

If you go to a ghetto anywhere in america what do you see an Arab gas station and liquor store we need to adopt this ambitious mentality of being willing to make money in any environment and stop looking down on manual Labour nothing good in life comes easy

The ultimate goal in life for any refuge or immigrant is to achieve the American dream if your happy living in low income subsided housing for the rest of your life might as well go back to Somalia
Asians and even other Africans (excluding South Sudanese & Eritreans) are mostly economic migrants.
Outside the first wave of educated urbanites in the late 80s and early 90s, most Somali immigrants were illiterates from refugee camps. And not even the urban kind, but straight-up tuulo kind.

And no I’m not making excuses. I dislike backward and ignorant people as much as the next guy. But you’re comparing apples to oranges.

Also, what’s up with you and a few other users being obsessed with native Black Americans? I wouldn’t even be in America today if it weren’t for them (+ juices and white libs). People let y’all into their country, and instead of showing gratitude, yall badmouth them.

Are your parents the illiterate geeljire I was talking about earlier, by any chance?”
 
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Community is dead now sxb, we will throw all sorts of free events for these kids and nobody will show up. It’s because the things we were interested in no longer interests them. For example, If you throw a free basketball tournament and say the winners get a free trip to play in another tournament, I promise you like 25 kids will show up out of the thousands.
Man if they were saying they were giving out candy I would have been there. I've noticed it in my area too kids arent going outside. Too much social media and giving them devices has destroyed this generation. Imma do what my parents did act like the internet doesnt exist and limit it.
 

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The news isn’t telling the whole story obviously there’s a reason these kids whooped lil dudes ass back in my day when a bunch of kids beat a dude up the dude did something a lot worse then the whooping the other kids gave him. I wanna know what the other kid did to warrant this vicious ass beating before I come to a verdict because it could very well be deserved.
 

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Stop talking out of your ass you Americans are the poorest people in the country how the f*ck do you even pull that off you guys have to be sum stuuuuupid motherfukers like Down syndrome hurr durr level of retardness even the AAs you love to shit on make more bread then you bummy ass niggas that could never be us in Canada. Keep Toronto out of your mouth you guys can’t compete with us in legal or criminal income goofy
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3LetterzMM

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What an overreaction, to any headlines involves potentially Somalis.

School fights happen all the time in America in all over the place , even amongst White students which are the most common thing . Thats why there is littered with videos on online and news stories on it. Somalis fighting at school barely make it.
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It's gotten soo bad and become so common that they introduced a bill to make it into felony for kids to roll out harsher punishments.

Low bill would make fighting at school a felony for kids, parents​

Sorry but this is the stupidest shit I’ve heard you want to charge kids for fighting they’re fucking kids it’s what they do. 90% of the kids in my old school would have felonies if this was implemented what’s going to happen to the kids that are getting bullied and retaliate you and I both know damn well schools don’t care who started what they always punish the kid that threw the first punch regardless if it’s deserved. Just suspend them and get it over with kids shouldn’t be treated like criminals for being kids and losing their cool this doesn’t help them it only puts them on the path to becoming hardened criminals at a young age once they catch that first charge they are at a high risk of catching other charges and putting them on a path to being a hardened criminal. These kids need to be punished not demonized.
 
Stop talking out of your ass you Americans are the poorest people in the country how the f*ck do you even pull that off you guys have to be sum stuuuuupid motherfukers like Down syndrome hurr durr level of retardness even the AAs you love to shit on make more bread then you bummy ass niggas that could never be us in Canada. Keep Toronto out of your mouth you guys can’t compete with us in legal or criminal income goofyView attachment 354265
@Idilinaa you can’t compare economic migrants to refugees some of whom came as recently as mid 2010s that’s not a fair comparison secondly we know Somalis like underreporting their income for a bunch of reasons most of these stats are from the parents generation as more educated Somalis enter the workforce stats will change it’s no secret there’s more Somali entrepreneurs businesses schools malls etc in America then any other diaspora America is the land of opportunity you can’t compare that to Canada


In 2007 there was hundreds of Somali businesses in Minneapolis area alone and a purchasing power of over 160 million imagine today almost 20 years later

Somali Americans are increasingly becoming homeowners as well and pooling together resources to buy homes show me that happening anywhere in Canada the cost of living in Toronto has locked most Somali families out the market i ain’t even dissing Toronto it’s just reality
 
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3LetterzMM

LG gang we gon slide for my nigga 🤐🥷
@Idilinaa you can’t compare economic migrants to refugees some of whom came as recently as mid 2010s that’s not a fair comparison secondly we know Somalis like underreporting their income for a bunch of reasons it’s no secret there’s more Somali entrepreneurs businesses schools malls etc in America then any other diaspora America is the land of opportunity you can’t compare


In 2007 there was over 300 Somali businesses in Minneapolis area alone and a purchasing power of over 160 million imagine today almost 20 years later

Somali Americans are increasingly becoming homeowners as well and pooling together resources to buy homes show me that happening anywhere in Canada the cost of living in Toronto has locked most Somali families out the market i ain’t even dissing Toronto it’s just reality
Shut up I schooled ur ass don’t cry refugee when you guys been here since the 90s and are still at the bottom ur bums there’s tons of Somali homeowners in smaller cities like Ottawa Edmonton Calgary etc it’s just not something that gets reported on like you guys because it’s common enough to the point where it’s not news. Only millionares own homes in Toronto that’s like if you guys lived in NYC and I clowned you guys for not owning houses there. We got tons of businesses in Toronto ask any Torontonian about Weston rd they’ll tell you it’s little Somalia half the businesses there are Simali owned and that’s jus one street in a big ass city we got way more then 160 businesses in the gta.

You say ur not dissing but you went out of ur way to compare us to you when we aren’t the topic of conversation you sound butthurt. We are 100x more influential in our country then you are in yours you are an irrelevant group in an irrelevant state and the most poor people in the country don’t ever try to act like you’re superior the culture here is built by us you guys bottom feed off of AA culture have fun in shittapolis im in a world class city pussy.
 
Shut up I schooled ur ass don’t cry refugee when you guys been here since the 90s and are still at the bottom ur bums there’s tons of Somali homeowners in smaller cities like Ottawa Edmonton Calgary etc it’s just not something that gets reported on like you guys because it’s common enough to the point where it’s not news. Only millionares own homes in Toronto that’s like if you guys lived in NYC and I clowned you guys for not owning houses there. We got tons of businesses in Toronto ask any Torontonian about Weston rd they’ll tell you it’s little Somalia half the businesses there are Simali owned and that’s jus one street in a big ass city we got way more then 160 businesses in the gta.

You say ur not dissing but you went out of ur way to compare us to you when we aren’t the topic of conversation you sound butthurt. We are 100x more influential in our country then you are in yours you are an irrelevant group in an irrelevant state and the most poor people in the country don’t ever try to act like you’re superior the culture here is built by us you guys bottom feed off of AA culture have fun in shittapolis im in a world class city pussy.
Stay Mad GIF
There’s no point in going back and forth on all day about this topic I provided facts let’s keep it moving it ain’t that serious
 
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3LetterzMM

LG gang we gon slide for my nigga 🤐🥷
Stay Mad GIF
There’s no point in going back and forth on all day about this topic I provided facts let’s keep it moving it ain’t that serious
Bro just keep my country out your mouth and we good idec if ur more successful I’d rather be a bum in Toronto then rich in Minneapolis fucking plain flat white girls all day we got the whole worlds women in our city that alone makes us superior f*ck da facts
 
@Idilinaa you can’t compare economic migrants to refugees some of whom came as recently as mid 2010s that’s not a fair comparison secondly we know Somalis like underreporting their income for a bunch of reasons most of these stats are from the parents generation as more educated Somalis enter the workforce stats will change it’s no secret there’s more Somali entrepreneurs businesses schools malls etc in America then any other diaspora America is the land of opportunity you can’t compare that to Canada


In 2007 there was hundreds of Somali businesses in Minneapolis area alone and a purchasing power of over 160 million imagine today almost 20 years later

Somali Americans are increasingly becoming homeowners as well and pooling together resources to buy homes show me that happening anywhere in Canada the cost of living in Toronto has locked most Somali families out the market i ain’t even dissing Toronto it’s just reality

There is a paper that actually goes more indepth about it is also from 2007

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These figures are from 2008.
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The number of businesses now are probably in the thousands and with more improved diversification, planning and funding.

Although no additional studies have been made since then. We can actually roughly calculate the purchasing power and median income of Somalis based on how much remittances they send to Somalia each year. Somalis in America send 500 million each year out of the 1.6 billion globally as it's recorded in 2021 by the world bank and remitance services they use.

The average Somali in America would have to send $8,333 of each per year to Somalia. 4/5 per household equals 13.333 households.

They would have to have 70K-90k household media income with a purchasing power of 2.3 billion annually. And a disposable income of 60.000 USD

There is no other way they can afford to send that much money to Somalia otherwise. Was planning to make a thread on this alongside the economic growth estimation of Somalia that has reduced remittances to 2.6% of the economy.
 
You always coming with straight facts you can’t compare any other diaspora to reer America

They of all diaspora groups sent nearly half of all global diaspora remittances. They have been an incredible vital community.

Their median household income levels under reported when you take into account 2 separate facts, that they are employed sometimes informally and that a portion of their income goes to remittances they send abroad.

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There is a paper that actually goes more indepth about it is also from 2007

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These figures are from 2008.
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The number of businesses now are probably in the thousands and with more improved diversification, planning and funding.

Although no additional studies have been made since then. We can actually roughly calculate the purchasing power and median income of Somalis based on how much remittances they send to Somalia each year. Somalis in America send 500 million each year out of the 1.6 billion globally as it's recorded in 2021 by the world bank and remitance services they use.

The average Somali in America would have to send $8,333 of each per year to Somalia. 4/5 per household equals 13.333 households.

They would have to have 70K-90k household media income with a purchasing power of 2.3 billion annually. And a disposable income of 60.000 USD

There is no other way they can afford to send that much money to Somalia otherwise. Was planning to make a thread on this alongside the economic growth estimation of Somalia that has reduced remittances to 2.6% of the economy.
Rest America are the most important diaspora community there’s no debate 💯🤷‍♂️
 
Rest America are the most important diaspora community 💯🤷‍♂️

I believe their economic capacity is higher because they exist in a more capitalist free market economy, than say mainland European Somalis.

It's insane for people to compare Somalis to African Americans. African Americans have a unique history and struggle that impedes them, but also because they are a heterogeneous social group that is not exactly bounded by kinship ties, religion or culture but a unique historical experience, that's why they tend to lack the group economic activity and 90% are employed by white Americans. Wealth just leaves their community instead retaining it.
 
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