East London Muslim patrol

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We don't see this issue of non-assimilation with the Hindu or Sikh community but this problem only occurs with the Muslims. And everyone here knows the reason why.
 

afrosomali

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We don't see this issue of non-assimilation with the Hindu or Sikh community but this problem only occurs with the Muslims. And everyone here knows the reason why.
r u arguing islam is somehow 'worse' than those other religions- nah g ure not somali:camby:
 
r u arguing islam is somehow 'worse' than those other religions- nah g ure not somali:camby:



No they're all the same in that they make claims that have no basis in reality. However, Islam is differs from the two in that it places an emphasis on imposing it's will on those who don't even share the faith. These patrols are an example of that.
 
thats incorrect- pls educate urself

Sahih Muslim (1:33)
'It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah.'

Muhammad's experiences in Mecca made him realise Islam always had to be in a position of authority and if it meant an offensive war was required then so be it.
 

afrosomali

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Sahih Muslim (1:33)
'It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah.'

Muhammad's experiences in Mecca made him realise Islam always had to be in a position of authority and if it meant an offensive war was required then so be it.
i was referring to jizya (frm the quran not hadith) which is much more apropos to this discussion
 

afrosomali

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For one to levy the Jizya tax on others, they must first be in a position of authority, correct?
thats a diff discussion

my point is- wat these men r doing (imposing shariah on non muslims) is unislamic which is true

ur point in context of the op is that islam somehow encourages them to act this way

id like for u to tell me how
 
thats a diff discussion

my point is- wat these men r doing (imposing shariah on non muslims) is unislamic which is true

ur point in context of the op is that islam somehow encourages them to act this way

id like for u to tell me how



If you're interested in having a discussion on this then I'll invite you into our debate team on Slack. How's that sound?
 

afrosomali

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If you're interested in having a discussion on this then I'll invite you into our debate team on Slack. How's that sound?
im not too preoccupied w/ religion but thanks for the offer

in this case though u r wrong to imply islam supports the behavior in op
 

afrosomali

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We'll agree to disagree then.
on wat basis do u disagree- ure saying it is islamic law to force non muslims to conform to shariah (assuming jizya is paid) nd there is no basis to that claim

ayaan hirsi ali must be ur mentor
 
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