EgyptAir to launch direct Cairo-Mogadishu flights in July

[Jungle]

Man says "Major blow" like it matters when we are giving away a money that could be used by our gov. Why can't they lease planes and take the most profitable routes to Somalia? Dubai-Xamar, Nairobi-Xamar, London-Xamar, Istanbul-Xamar and Cairo-Xamar. Or at least encourage the private sector to get on them.

I honestly don't understand what's stopping us from having our own airlines. Partner with Turkish airlines if we need help.

Egyptair already a cheap airline has just cut out Ethiopia and Turkey with their extortionate prices which isn't a bad thing.

FGS doesn't invest in its vast coastline or farmland so how do you expect them to get an airline lol

 

[RiceMuncher]

Egyptair already a cheap airline has just cut out Ethiopia and Turkey with their extortionate prices which isn't a bad thing.

FGS doesn't invest in its vast coastline or farmland so how do you expect them to get an airline lol

I get that broski. But I don't get the why. Is the govs main job to just fight AS? They need to act like one and start investing in the country. Doesn't have to be much. A 5 mil investment in a couple factories here, a lease on 2 planes there and people will start getting enthusiastic about the country's future. They had 7 mil for the EAC afterall they got the money for it.

It’s been like this since the TFG. Their only focus is AS. Many countries continue to live with rebel groups operating in their country.

I read this news shalay:

The Ministry of Public Works outlined ongoing and planned infrastructure projects. Roads are under construction in Garowe, Baidoa, and Kismayo, with additional roads planned for Beledweyne and Dhusamareeb. In Mogadishu, new drainage systems and sewage pipelines are set to be implemented.

It’s a start!

 

[Dalac Bilaash]

single Boeing or Airbus planes can cost from $300 to $700 million that's a lot we could only afford If we export high revenue goods like Oil,gas and fish.

 

[Three Moons]

Egyptair already a cheap airline has just cut out Ethiopia and Turkey with their extortionate prices which isn't a bad thing.

FGS doesn't invest in its vast coastline or farmland so how do you expect them to get an airline lol

Its crazy, because they are leaving tens of billions of dollars on the table. The Mexican government in the 1980s was one of the most corrupt on the planet, and STILL by the 1990s under Carlos Salinas, Mexico had minted 23 new super billionaires that hit the Forbes list, and in the process new Mexican ports, infrastructure and industries were also set up by these corrupt officials that grew the economy multifold.

Aden Adde Airport alone receives 200 flights a day, which is the same as Ethiopian Airlines daily global volume. The demand for a successful Somali Airlines is clearly there if it also captured the flights to other major Somali cities and regional ones. A multi-billion dollar industry just sitting there being gobbled up by foreign carriers like Turkish Airlines, Qatar Airways, EA, and now Egypt Airways.

 

[RiceMuncher]

single Boeing or Airbus planes can cost from $300 to $700 million that's a lot we could only afford If we export high revenue goods like Oil,gas and fish.

Kenya Airways

Kenya Airways Leases Aircraft to Enhance Operational Efficiency Over the Festive Season

corporate.kenya-airways.com

Ethiopian airlines getting 5 planes for 450mil

Ethiopian Airlines and Citi sign loan agreement for five new aircraft | Times Aerospace

The loan will be secured against the value of the five planes and has been arranged exclusively by Citi’s Corporate Banking and Export Agency and Finance teams. It is guaranteed by the Export-Import Bank of the United States (EXIM).

www.timesaerospace.aero

There's a way if there's a will.

 

[AlteKartel]

Aden Adde Airport alone receives 200 flights a day, which is the same as Ethiopian Airlines daily global volume.

Source? I was in Xamar staying close enough to the airport to hear planes often and I highly doubt daily volume is even 5% of that number.

 

[Dalac Bilaash]

Kenya Airways

Kenya Airways Leases Aircraft to Enhance Operational Efficiency Over the Festive Season

corporate.kenya-airways.com

Ethiopian airlines getting 5 planes for 450mil

Ethiopian Airlines and Citi sign loan agreement for five new aircraft | Times Aerospace

The loan will be secured against the value of the five planes and has been arranged exclusively by Citi’s Corporate Banking and Export Agency and Finance teams. It is guaranteed by the Export-Import Bank of the United States (EXIM).

www.timesaerospace.aero

There's a way if there's a will.

Those are second hand planes paid with loans and high interest rates I would rather be plane-less than go back to debt again we've suffered enough for nearly 30 years because of debt nope thanks we will wait till we start exporting goods so that we can buy everything with our hard earned money not loans.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Before u buy the planes please built a modern airport Mogadishu terminal airport is shitty wallahi even the toilet is not the one you sit on it, you have to squat ur leg to shit the smell of odor strong

 

[Internet Nomad]

You can't even talk normally just pure hatred tribalism has ruined your mind.

Bro doesn’t realise it makes Mogadishu airport look more reputable and opens more doors for other airlines to join. Also brings in new jobs and money.

All this nigga thinks other qabil president did something must be a negative.

 

[Som]

We need to push away UAE and keep Turkey, Qatar and Egypt as allies.

They are all enemies tbh, especially Qatar

 

[Dalac Bilaash]

They are all enemies tbh, especially Qatar

Yeah I don't like Qatar they're terrorist harbors but the only thing that makes them relevant in this world today is money

 

[Som]

Yeah I don't like Qatar they're terrorist harbors but the only thing that makes them relevant in this world today is money

Yep. Qatar isn't even a real country, 90% of their population are foreigners, less than 10 percent is Arab local elite who never worked in their life
Turkey is also bad and has a colonial attitude toward us , I'll never understand why people see turkey as a friend when they are treating us as cheap colony.
Egypt is a bit better but only because we don't have much going on with them.

 

[Som]

Yeah I don't like Qatar they're terrorist harbors but the only thing that makes them relevant in this world today is money

I'm going to be attacked for what I'm about to say but I'm less worried about the Xabashis than Arab gulf countries and Turkey. Xabashis are neighbors, we know them , all somalis know Ethiopia's agenda , when we interact with them we are careful. Somalis don't know Arabs and Turks though, we think we know them because we are Muslim but the truth is that most somalis mistakenly believe that these countries are out there to help us out of mhmm solidarity. These are the same people who are allowing Israel to destroy Palestine, can't trust countries like Egypt who allow Genocide against their own fellow Arabs without saying anything

 

[Aiman12]

single Boeing or Airbus planes can cost from $300 to $700 million that's a lot we could only afford If we export high revenue goods like Oil,gas and fish.

not to mention maintenance, larger hangars and fuel.

 

[EritreanPost_]

It’s good for Somalia. There 100.000s of Somalis flying to Somalia, if they boycott Ethiopian airlines Ethiopian airlines will make less revenues.

I also never fly with Ethiopian airlines

 

[Three Moons]

Source? I was in Xamar staying close enough to the airport to hear planes often and I highly doubt daily volume is even 5% of that number.

There is literally a source from the FGS in the post you are replying to. A decade ago (2014), flights a day stood at 40 as reported by Favorii, and air-traffic since then has increased multifold as have the amount of Somalis returning on a annual basis. I once lived next to Heathrow Airport and it definitely didn’t feel like over 1500 airplanes were landing every day, and you know why? Its because my ears aren’t advanced air traffic radar systems, and neither are yours.

With all due respect, let’s not rely on personal anecdotes.

 

[AlteKartel]

There is literally a source from the FGS in the post you are replying to. A decade ago (2014), flights a day stood at 40 as reported by Favorii, and air-traffic since then has increased multifold as have the amount of Somalis returning on a annual basis. I once lived next to Heathrow Airport and it definitely didn’t feel like over 1500 airplanes were landing every day, and you know why? Its because my ears aren’t advanced air traffic radar systems, and neither are yours.

With all due respect, let’s not rely on personal anecdotes.

The airport only has 3 gates and one runway. 200 flights a day would mean ≈ 8 flights per hour, per day, every single day. In reality, this number would be skewed higher as the majority of flights would take place during daylight hours. I can tell you now, Aden Adde absolutely does not receive 200 arrivals a day. That is not within the realm of possibility or reality. Even if you include departures, every UN flight, and every other flight, I promise you it is nowhere near that number. The new terminal that was built by the Turks approx. ten years ago was designed to increase capacity to 60 commercial flights per day (including arrivals and departures). There’s nothing wrong with being excited about the country/city’s progress, but we don’t need to exaggerate anything in the interim. If you have a source for your 200 flights per day departing/arriving at the airport let us know, otherwise keep your extrapolations within reason.

 

[Three Moons]

The airport only has 3 gates and one runway. 200 flights a day would mean ≈ 8 flights per hour, per day, every single day. In reality, this number would be skewed higher as the majority of flights would take place during daylight hours. I can tell you now, Aden Adde absolutely does not receive 200 arrivals a day. That is not within the realm of possibility or reality. Even if you include departures, every UN flight, and every other flight, I promise you it is nowhere near that number. The new terminal that was built by the Turks approx. ten years ago was designed to increase capacity to 60 commercial flights per day (including arrivals and departures). There’s nothing wrong with being excited about the country/city’s progress, but we don’t need to exaggerate anything in the interim. If you have a source for your 200 flights per day departing/arriving at the airport let us know, otherwise keep your extrapolations within reason.

Here is the direct quote from the SCAA minister;

“He said the current international airport in Mogadishu handles over 200 flights daily which prompted the need to construct a new airport to enable smooth operations and better service for passengers and airlines”

- Federal Government Announces Plans to Construct New Airport in Mogadishu

Either the quote is correct, or they added one zero too many, or the SCAA minister is referencing the overhead airspace flights, which is weird because that wouldn’t prompt the need for a new airport, and the overhead figure is closer to 600 than 200 a day. FlightRadar however doesn’t corroborate that minister’s daily number, so this is most likely a misquote by Goobjoog, where a weekly figure has been turned into a daily figure (unless we have a scenario where FlightRadar doesn’t track all flights to Mogadishu because of the different transponder types in use).

If they did add one zero too many, then there wouldn’t be a need for a new airport, as the current one would still be able to handle three times that figure. I wish they released their numbers in a annual report like the other ministries. There would be less confusion on this issue.

 

[AlteKartel]

Here is the direct quote from the SCAA minister;

“He said the current international airport in Mogadishu handles over 200 flights daily which prompted the need to construct a new airport to enable smooth operations and better service for passengers and airlines”

- Federal Government Announces Plans to Construct New Airport in Mogadishu

Either the quote is correct, or they added one zero too many, or the SCAA minister is referencing the overhead airspace flights, which is weird because that wouldn’t prompt the need for a new airport, and the overhead figure is closer to 600 than 200 a day. FlightRadar however doesn’t corroborate that minister’s daily number, so this is most likely a misquote by Goobjoog, where a weekly figure has been turned into a daily figure (unless we have a scenario where FlightRadar doesn’t track all flights to Mogadishu because of the different transponder types in use).

If they did add one zero too many, then there wouldn’t be a need for a new airport, as the current one would still be able to handle three times that figure. I wish they released their numbers in an annual report like the other ministeries. There would be less confusion on this issue.

I think 200 is still too much but 20 is probably too little. It’s somewhere in between. It seems that the main reason for a new airport is that this one is in the heart of city and too hard to expand. Even if the government owned all the land in and around the area, why would they use that prime real estate when they can construct a new one outside the city for far cheaper. Politically, it’s also probably to increase investment in north Mogadishu, which still lags behind the rest of the city. Finally, it’s easier to pilfer money from a new project starting from the ground up as opposed to an expansion. Hopefully that is not the case but it probably figures into the governments calculus as well.