Nigga, how many threads have you made trying to push liberalism and secularism on Somalis because of your blatant kafir agenda, obsessing how the deen is our problem and holding us Muslims down? No one can trust your words to be sincerenor well intentioned. Concern trolling if I have ever seen one. The first thing you do is mention another murtad. You think saying shit about the fool Elon Musk makes you, the other enemy, our friend? You must really think we're stupid, and some here clearly are.Elon wanted a freedom of speech which reduces the level of censorship. He’s trying to show how ugly humans can be with their views. But intentionally trying to forget how powerful the platform is and how unhealthy and dangerous it is for some people to post these garbage on a daily. This guy also contributed to the UK protest and Islamophobe. Which made it dangerous to my sisters be out.
I knew Andrew was a fraud from day one when niggaz started to hype him up.Hijab and other Muslim influencers boosted about Tate conversion. But never did they took the time of the day to condemn him and his associations that are against their beliefs. The likes of Tommy Robinson being the case. And did knew how Robinson always plays the matrix character. This persona and how the lower class English groups take this man as a matrix breaker. Kkkk. They I also realise they have more energy on Ilhan Omar than Tate.
Nigga, how many threads have you made trying to push liberalism and secularism on Somalis because of your blatant kafir agenda, obsessing how the deen is our problem and holding us Muslims down? No one can trust your words to be sincerenor well intentioned. Concern trolling if I have ever seen one. The first thing you do is mention another murtad. You think saying shit about the fool Elon Musk makes you, the other enemy, our friend? You must really think we're stupid, and some here clearly are.
Take back everything you said about your ideology, otherwise, this whole thread is just you trying to find another angle.
Muslims have and will face a lot of problems but you're not part of the team, because you've shown yourself to time and time again utter same errors as the Western people in an attempt to undermine us since you came to the forum.
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I can quote manny of these. You can go and f*ck yourself, Elon too. Andrew Tate is misguided and trying to jump on BS waves, he needs to correct himself, but I prefer a Muslim that make big mistakes more than you. You forget your place, nigga.
All you're saying here is just re-affirming your rat behavior, in the typical fashion. There are LGBTQ dog-identifying degenerates who hate Elon Musk, does that mean we are the same as those? You're peddling dumb reasoning as if your transparency of your deleterious ideology gives you integrity (denying evidence would just be impossible so you can't call yourself transparent). Our concerns are not your concerns when you left the deen and constantly tried to weaken the resolve of impressionable young ones, and on top of that, you are in no position to call Muslims kafir. This is why I don't respect half of the niggas on this forum. They let an unintelligent fool like you insult their deen constantly, undermining what they should hold dear, and suddenly when you come and concern troll they forget what you are about then side with you like you are their brother and let you define our issues as if you're their ambassador. What is that but a Trojan Horse? That says a lot about people's qualities here. It is a big-time disappointment, but at least they are Muslims; you're not.I’m critical of the religion. It’s no secret. I have said these things and held these views. I’m not hiding anything about that. Some of the things I said about Islam is based on my views and how I see it. People are free to dislike my post. I’m very liberal about that. People have every rights to disagree with me the views that I held.
The differences between me and Elon: I don’t post these things on a bigger platform on a forum with wider audiences. I in fact I always bring awareness of the bigger platforms and how Twitter X is escalating these situations. Everyone have the rights to debate about any religion. Just like there’s loads of critical views of Judaism and Christianity everyone’s have on this forum. I have rights to debate about Islam.
And there were good users who I held a respectful debate.
@Omar del Sur and @Internet Nomad
But I never dragged the Muslims community in a bigger platforms. Never. I fact I always report on those terms. My post are edgy. But I never have I ever indented to post these things on foreigner platforms.
I have families that Muslims but even they know me how vocal I am about Islamophobia.
And also Andrew Tate is never Muslim. He’s just playing a gimmick. Which majority Muslim men fallen for.
All you're saying here is just re-affirming your rat behavior, in the typical fashion. There are LGBTQ dog identifying degenrate who hate Elon Musk, does that mean we are the same as those? You're peddling dumb reasonisng as if your ideology gives you integrity. Our concerns are not your concerns when you left the deen, and on top of that, you are in no position to call Muslims kafir. This is why I don't respect half of the niggas on this forum. They let an unintelligent fool like you insult their deen constantly, undermining what they should hold dear, and suddenly when you come and concern troll they forget what you are about then side with you like you are their brother and let you define our issues as if you're their ambasdor. What is that but a Trojan Horse? That says a lot about peoples qualities here. It is a big time dissapointment, but at least they are Muslims; you're not.
Regarding this bit about us "letting him" insult Islam, this guy doesn't even try to hide his anti-Islam biases, so it feels redundant for me to systematically debunk/refute his lies and fallacious reasoning whenever he attempts to speak ill of the diin.All you're saying here is just re-affirming your rat behavior, in the typical fashion. There are LGBTQ dog-identifying degenerates who hate Elon Musk, does that mean we are the same as those? You're peddling dumb reasoning as if your transparency of your deleterious ideology gives you integrity (denying evidence would just be impossible so you can't call yourself transparent). Our concerns are not your concerns when you left the deen and constantly tried to weaken the resolve of impressionable young ones, and on top of that, you are in no position to call Muslims kafir. This is why I don't respect half of the niggas on this forum. They let an unintelligent fool like you insult their deen constantly, undermining what they should hold dear, and suddenly when you come and concern troll they forget what you are about then side with you like you are their brother and let you define our issues as if you're their ambassador. What is that but a Trojan Horse? That says a lot about people's qualities here. It is a big-time disappointment, but at least they are Muslims; you're not.
Used the Dawa bros like a condom
Regarding this bit about us "letting him" insult Islam, this guy doesn't even try to hide his anti-Islam biases, so it feels redundant for me to systematically debunk/refute his lies and fallacious reasoning whenever he attempts to speak ill of the diin.
"Like what's the point when he's so clumsily obvious about it, everyone can see it?" is what I suspect many Muslim users on here feel reading his Islamophobic posts. I hope that provides insight into what I think is going on with Muslim users ignoring his Islamophobia. That, and perhaps people here also being desensitised to it living in Western countries our whole lives.
The context behind the second pic is an Autistic 14 year old dropped a Quran and idiotic Pakistani's sent him death threats and made he and his family apologise at a mosque.
Pakistani's being the majority muslim group in the UK will lead to more "islamaphobia".
I’ll make this clear one more time because there’s bit of divide in this thread.
I have my doubts about islam as a religion which I’ve been vocal about (which isn’t a secret) but no way or form do I condone the racial divides against the Muslims in Europe or any western countries which Elon is escalating. If I was a Islamophobe I wouldn’t have made this thread to begin with.
I condemn Elon musk and how he’s causing hatred against the Muslims in the west and don’t as a moderate liberalist I don’t stand by this at all.
To be critical of a religion there’s needs to be a debate. Which I have been doing in here for awhile. I condemn bigger platforms that causes divides and supports racial tensions on a bigger platforms like Twitter x or Reddit. Which I highly condemned and been condemning for awhile.
I’m a conformed agnostic. My views differs from the majority in here. and I’m a minority with minority views and I stand by this.
You guys can call me kufar or non-believer or any words that you can use. I’m devout agnostic. And I stand by this.
only a certain * kanye gif* promoted this guy. Let's be clear.Back in 2022 me and other users (especially @Angelina and @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒) were highly skeptical of this piece of shit. And now how he’s using islam to fuel his profile. He’s a piece of shit. And most most Muslims falls to his trap. Thinking he’s “top G”
Andrew Tate is definitely a grifter, he sells an image that he doesn’t uphold. However, as much as a grifter or sinner he is, you cannot takfir him. My opinions are clear enough by now for you to know, I’m not a Tate supporter but we should be better than stooping low.
Elon Musk is a different case. If you genuinely thought the world’s richest man is some sort of revolutionary figure in a society that is set up to benefit him over anyone else, you’re a nacas.
As for @Khanderson : He is an ex-Muslim and is critical of Islam, with many points that are incompatible or even distasteful compared to my values. However, a spade is a spade and at least he’s honest about his opinions unlike Tate. He is able to tell you on this site what he likes and doesn’t like because this is an anonymous place. He has zero reason to lie to you about his opinions on a given matter, we are strangers to one another at the end of the dayZ
Anyways, ranting over. Peace.