could you show the full text sxb? specifically after "during the second half of"Did you even read what was even posted?Where are your sources for what you just spewed?
The Ifat 'sultanate' was, in a practical sense, a sinister joke. They were put to power by Amharas, their sworn enemy and, as documented by contemporary Arab scholars and Xabashis themselves, they were a close allies to the Christian king. It's even written here:
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Their situation was no different to that of the unfortunate predicament of Somalis living in Galbeed. They were granted somewhat of an autonomy, but still had to become tributaries to their supposed sworn enemies, the Habesha.
OP has the full source.
Where is your source that ifat sultanate was put into power by the abyssinians ? Not a single source mentions this, infact all historical contemporary and medieval sources agree that the ifat sultanate began as an independent small Somali kingdom based in zeila, and for half a century and even more, there wasn't a single war between ifat and the abyssinians, and even after the wars began, ifat only became an autonomous tributary for brief periods accompanied by new anti abyssinian leaders who would revoke the status quo and return to total autonomy and war to protect themselvesDid you even read what was even posted?
The Ifat 'sultanate' was, in a practical sense, a sinister joke. They were put to power by Amharas, their sworn enemy and, as documented by contemporary Arab scholars and Xabashis themselves, they were a close allies to the Christian king. It's even written here:
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Their situation was no different to that of the unfortunate predicament of Somalis living in Galbeed. They were granted somewhat of an autonomy, but still had to become tributaries to their supposed sworn enemies, the Habesha.
Did you even read what was even posted?
The Ifat 'sultanate' was, in a practical sense, a sinister joke. They were put to power by Amharas, their sworn enemy and, as documented by contemporary Arab scholars and Xabashis themselves, they were a close allies to the Christian king. It's even written here:
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Their situation was no different to that of the unfortunate predicament of Somalis living in Galbeed. They were granted somewhat of an autonomy, but still had to become tributaries to their supposed sworn enemies, the Habesha.
Whats your problem it seems to me that your the one who cant read i didnt deny that part of ifats history
But youre the one who didnt bother to read that ifat under its first king defeated the sultanate of shewa and united the muslim horn
Thier by greatly enlarging its teritory to face of against christian ethiopia
Yes the ethiopian gragn amda tsion completely conquered ifat and with ifat becoming an autonomy of ethiopia for a short while
but ifat did fight and rebelled succesfully and freed themselves under the king haq ad din the second
Eventually the abysinians would push the ifataties back and then the kingdom of adal was established who were more succesfull and stronger then ifat
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Muzaffer
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talking about history I was playing a game for 6 hours straight called crusaders kings 2
and I create my own dynasty (Tawradid dynasty) conquered all Iberia and Morroco, embraced the Ibadi faith, and take the title caliph.
ethnicity: Berber
religion: Muslim
capital:cordoba
and I create my own dynasty (Tawradid dynasty) conquered all Iberia and Morroco, embraced the Ibadi faith, and take the title caliph.
ethnicity: Berber
religion: Muslim
capital:cordoba
Muzaffer
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north Somalia is ruled by Darood
They claimed to descend from Aqeel ibn Abu Taleb which is common among Somalis clans.
Probably a mixture of Somalis and ethiosemitic muslims like hararis and argobbas
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This is too simplistic a view. Ifat was an aggressive rival of the Solomonids and was founded originally in Zeila. Ifat expanded aggressively into the highlands conquering the Gurage sultanate of Shewa and challenged the Solomonids for dominance. They were defeated by Amde Seyon, along with everyone else in the horn of Africa, and subjugated to his empire.
Ifat rebelled after nearly a century of subjugation and was destroyed in a Solomonid invasion in 1409. The royal family fled to Yemen, and returned and launched a rebellion in 1415. All four sons of the last sultan of Ifat died in battle, one after the other, to liberate their lands, which they named Adal rather than Ifat. Their descendants would liberate most of the old lands of Ifat but descend into civil war.
Ifat rebelled after nearly a century of subjugation and was destroyed in a Solomonid invasion in 1409. The royal family fled to Yemen, and returned and launched a rebellion in 1415. All four sons of the last sultan of Ifat died in battle, one after the other, to liberate their lands, which they named Adal rather than Ifat. Their descendants would liberate most of the old lands of Ifat but descend into civil war.
James no one is denying this, I'm just highlighting that they were a tributary state which is embarrassing and that the Walashma may (as the text suggests) have gotten into power due to Solomonid influence - again not something to be proud of.
You can't just believe any map you find on the internet, I doubt they were that big.
Muzaffer
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well, history is just a chain of events.What does this have to do with the thread though
Agakn where does it say they were a tributary state
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The Ifat Sultanate was established in 1185. The word “Ifat” from Middle Somali “Awfat” designating to the northernmost regions of Ogaden [Somali Region, Ethiopia] at the time. They gain independence from the Makhzumids, their predecessors the Maqzumids were a powerful sultanate that’s was of seemingly untenable Arab origins who thrived and LITERALLY invented coffee all at the expense of the Axumites who died because of a vwaogmienna named Gudit or she was fakeIn this text which relies on both Arab and Xabashi accounts we learn:
- The Walashma were initially helped into power by Ethiopian Kings
- Viewed as subordinates to Ethiopia by both contemporary Arab historians and the Xabashi themselves
- Neighboring muslim states like Hadiyya and Dawaro were victims of raids when they refused to pay tribute
- Ifat themselves were also tributaries of the Xabashi
Chapter 4 The Sultanates of Medieval Ethiopia
"Chapter 4 The Sultanates of Medieval Ethiopia" published on 08 Jan 2020 by Brill.brill.com
So much faan about Ifat and it's all for nought it seems
Here's a selection from the chapter
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The Ifats were NOT a vassal of the pot-smoking Ethiopians. In fact, the Ethiopian “Empire” was established in the 1270s thanks to the Ifat Sultanate’s aid against a Muslim power. Axmaad Gurey conquer Ethiopia for 10 year longer than the Italian 6 years. You MUST be tripping BanunisIn this text which relies on both Arab and Xabashi accounts we learn:
- The Walashma were initially helped into power by Ethiopian Kings
- Viewed as subordinates to Ethiopia by both contemporary Arab historians and the Xabashi themselves
- Neighboring muslim states like Hadiyya and Dawaro were victims of raids when they refused to pay tribute
- Ifat themselves were also tributaries of the Xabashi
Chapter 4 The Sultanates of Medieval Ethiopia
"Chapter 4 The Sultanates of Medieval Ethiopia" published on 08 Jan 2020 by Brill.
So much faan about Ifat and it's all for nought it seems
Here's a selection from the chapter
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Wasn't Arwe an Adal Sultan? Or did you mean someone else?
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