Ethiopia’s air force is bombing Somalia again

[Rocktheboat]

This story doesn’t seem right. First of it’s not an official source but US news outlet.

Secondly in 2007, Eritrea backed the Alliance of the Reliberation of Somalia who was composed of former ICU ministers, and they were rivals of Al Shabab, opposed Al Shabab and killed Al
Shabab

the only UN officials who pushed this lie was Matt Bryden and Matt Bryden left UN Eritrea Somalia monitoring group due to beeing member of Sahan research and crisis group and for delaying evidences which made Eritrea not guilty https://www.innercitypress.com/som1jimale072412.html


The UN's Somalia and Eritrea sanctions are a circus. A report on Eritrea was put online, then taken down after an Ethiopian UN official Taye Brook-Zerihoun spoke with some but not all Security Council members.


Meanwhile the coordinator of the Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea, the Canadian Matt Bryden, openly leaked his Group's report and was quoted about it by name, before it was given to Eritrea.


Somalia too has criticized Bryden, as supporting the full or formal breakaway of Somaliland.


Tuesday in front of the Security Council members from three countries gave Inner City Press exclusive and negative reviews of Bryden's performance. "He's leaving," one of them said. There is snarky speculation Bryden may have been angling for a book deal, or a post with a group like HRW.

You don't have to believe it but the story is true. The source is the U.S DOD

 

[EritreanPost_]

You don't have to believe it but the story is true. The source is the U.S DOD

U mean the George W Bush administration who initiated the Ethiopian invasion of Somalia in 2006. Believe it alone. No one is buying your crap anymore

same George W Bush who said Afghanistan was behind 911 and Iraq had nuclear weapons.

I rather stick to the UNSC report stating that there were no evidences of Eritrea-Al Shabab links
Security council denies any evidences 2014 https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/{65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9}/S_2014_727.pdf



Security council denies in 2016 any evidences https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/{65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9}/s_2017_925.pdf





Security council 2017: Taking note that during the course of its current and two previous mandates the SEMG has not found any evidence that the Government of Eritrea is supporting Al‑Shabaab,https://reliefweb.int/report/somali...somalia-eritrea-adopting-resolution-2317-2016

 

[EritreanPost_]

No, you are not. You are deflecting. It’s just as confusing why you brought up Eritrea in this thread. You make no sense.

Somalilanders always hate Eritrea and Somalia, they always Ethiopia‘s aggression on Somalia and they hate Eritrea very much.

Probsbly because Eritrea is an recognized country they are not.

One must be a very bad human being to endorse/not condemn foreign country bombing Somalia during Ramadan, the same country that invaded Somalia in 2006.

I like Somalispot but some people are crazy, that’s why people leave this place

Ethiopians on the other hand wouldn’t welcome rivals like Egypt to invade and bomb Ethiopia

 

[TheLand]

Somalilanders always hate Eritrea and Somalia, they always Ethiopia‘s aggression on Somalia and they hate Eritrea very much.

Probsbly because Eritrea is an recognized country they are not.

One must be a very bad human being to endorse/not condemn foreign country bombing Somalia during Ramadan, the same country that invaded Somalia in 2006.

I like Somalispot but some people are crazy, that’s why people leave this place

Ethiopians on the other hand wouldn’t welcome rivals like Egypt to invade and bomb Ethiopia

I don’t even think this person is a Somalilander but I was just using that to illustrate the major flaws in logic. All this stuff about Eritrea supporting shabaab is also old news from almost a decade ago. I don’t support Eritreas government myself but they are and were training thousands of Somali troops. Maybe 10k or more trained to fight shabaab by Eritrea that Somalia’s current government disbanded or destroyed so it really makes no sense why this is coming up now. Seems like a distraction.

 

[Rocktheboat]

U mean the George W Bush administration who initiated the Ethiopian invasion of Somalia in 2006. Believe it alone. No one is buying your crap anymore

same George W Bush who said Afghanistan was behind 911 and Iraq had nuclear weapons.

I rather stick to the UNSC report stating that there were no evidences of Eritrea-Al Shabab links
Security council denies any evidences 2014 https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/{65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9}/S_2014_727.pdf



Security council denies in 2016 any evidences https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/{65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9}/s_2017_925.pdf





Security council 2017: Taking note that during the course of its current and two previous mandates the SEMG has not found any evidence that the Government of Eritrea is supporting Al‑Shabaab,https://reliefweb.int/report/somali...somalia-eritrea-adopting-resolution-2317-2016

You said it yourself, The Security Council only lifted it since they couldn't find current evidence from their mandate for 4 sessions in a row (2012-2016). It doesn't negate the support given to them decades prior.

I never claimed they recently have been funding them but the Security council doesn't completely rule it either per your sources.

The Monitoring Group has found no evidence of Eritrean support to Al-Shabaab during the course of its present mandate. The Monitoring Group does not, however, rule out the possibility that Eritrea may be providing some assistance to elements within Al-Shabaab without detection, but it is the overall assessment of the Monitoring Group that Eritrea is a marginal actor in Somalia, and increased public scrutiny by the international community has made any direct support to Al-Shabaab much riskier.

Throughout its current mandate, the Monitoring Group investigated allegations by a neighbouring Member State of support provided by Eritrea to Al-Shabaab in Somalia. Despite receiving some corroborating information from another regional Member State and regional administrations in Somalia, the Group has not been able to substantiate the allegations. As such, the Group has, for its fourth consecutive mandate, not found conclusive evidence of support provided by Eritrea to Al-Shabaab.

 

[EritreanPost_]

You said it yourself, The Security Council only lifted it since they couldn't find current evidence from their mandate for 4 sessions in a row (2012-2016). It doesn't negate the support given to them decades prior.

I never claimed they recently have been funding them but the Security council doesn't completely rule it either per your sources.

Yes it does. Because before UN official Matt Bryden was removed from the UN Eritrea Somalia monitoring group, he claimed Al Shabab got weapons from eritrea via planes from Kenya which landed in Baidoa. But his main accusations were exposed

read this:

Paragraph 23. no evidence a plane of weapons from Kenya flying to Baidoa Somalia for AS on behalf of Eritrea. Paragraph 18/19 in November 2011 UN, Ethiopia accused Eritrea of flying in weapons by plane from Kenya to AS controlled Baidoa town of Somalia. But an investigation by the Kenyan gov showed that the flight didn’t not take place.

https://www.innercitypress.com/ban1eritreaicp060812.pdf







Paragraph 30 Al Shabab opposed the meeting of Eritrea backed Alliance of Reliberation of Somalia ARS meeting and denounced it as secular agenda . AS accused the Eritrea backed Somali groups of conducting strikes on fighters of AS.



https://www.innercitypress.com/ban1eritreaicp060812.pdf

this document exposed the 2011 UN resolution and false allegations by Matt Bryden.

your also spreading misinformation to distract from the original topic, probably you are an Ethiopian.

The UN sanctions on Eritrea didn’t exist decades earlier. The sanctions were put on Eritrea in 2009

and don’t spread misinformation, just because you are a Somalilander who hates Eritrea.

the United Nations security council speaker clearly said there are no evidences that Eritrea has been backing Al Shabab

‘We have seen no evidence of Eritrea supporting Al Shabab’

 

[EritreanPost_]

I don’t even think this person is a Somalilander but I was just using that to illustrate the major flaws in logic. All this stuff about Eritrea supporting shabaab is also old news from almost a decade ago. I don’t support Eritreas government myself but they are and were training thousands of Somali troops. Maybe 10k or more trained to fight shabaab by Eritrea that Somalia’s current government disbanded or destroyed so it really makes no sense why this is coming up now. Seems like a distraction.

She is Somalilander, she also said that Amisom freed Somalia. And many Al Shabab leaders came from Somaliland, probably her uncles are

It said that u have treacherous people like SNM supporters

she picked an all lie to distract from Ethiopian bombings of Somalia. May God/Allah have mercy with selfish and ignorant people like her

 

[chut]

She is Somalilander, she also said that Amisom freed Somalia. And many Al Shabab leaders came from Somaliland, probably her uncles are

It said that u have treacherous people like SNM supporters

she picked an all lie to distract from Ethiopian bombings of Somalia. May God/Allah have mercy with selfish and ignorant people like her

Since when were eritreans interested in somali politics?