Ethiopia Approves Sidama as the 10th Regional State

[Waaqo of Punt]

Autonomy means self-control. It does not just mean autonomy within a federal system. Eritrea was originally part of Ethiopia and broke off because they got a whiff of freedom through the Italians. They only went backwards compared to the rest of Ethiopia ever since.

Same with South Sudan, although I grant that their case for independence was more justifiable.

Well the kind of autonomy I mentioned is what the Ethiopian gov is allowing, this is federalism. I'm not sure how much self control u would want a state to have under federalism. But this works just fine. They have the control they need and want.

Eritrea under Italy and right after the Italians was much, much better than the rest of Ethiopia. They had higher literacy rates, overall health, public transpot, jobs, industry, etc. In fact, many Eritreans went to Ethiopia and became rich by setting up business. Asmara was also called the most beautiful city in Africa and with good reason. For what Asmara was back in the day it was def the most clean and best aesthetically looking city in Africa. The best architecture too (Italian). Modern studios and latest gen offices were in Asmara too. Higher GDP as well.

Eritrea started to decline after the attrition war with Ethiopia and Isaias' communist regime which is cleansing Eritreans today.

Federalism wasn't the reason Eritrea broke off. Eritrea already had its own independent kingdom back in the day, Medri Bahri, and that's what the Eritrean region was based off. Not some random colonial map making. Anyway, the Italian occupation and the killings of Eritreans by Tigrayans from Tigray and Menelik after The Italians lost the battle of Adwa with the Askari was a big factor.

This is what the the Eritrean ascari that helped the Italians in Adwa got from Menelik II after he caught up with them in Eritrea:

He cut off their right hand and left leg. That's the punishment the Ethiopians gave to traitors....

This was used as propaganda to show that the Ethios were savages.

Federalism has little to do with this.

 

[Apollo]

Well the kind of autonomy I mentioned is what the Ethiopian gov is allowing, this is federalism. I'm not sure how much self control u would want a state to have under federalism. But this works just fine. They have the control they need and want.

Eritrea under Italy and right after the Italians was much, much better than the rest of Ethiopia. They had higher literacy rates, overall health, public transpot, jobs, industry, etc. In fact, many Eritreans went to Ethiopia and became rich by setting up business. Asmara was also called the most beautiful city in Africa and with good reason. For what Asmara was back in the day it was def the most clean and best aesthetically looking city in Africa. The best architecture too (Italian). Modern studios and latest gen offices were in Asmara too. Higher GDP as well.

Eritrea started to decline after the attrition war with Ethiopia and Isaias' communist regime which is cleansing Eritreans today.

Federalism wasn't the reason Eritrea broke off. Eritrea already had its own independent kingdom back in the day, Medri Bahri, and that's what the Eritrean region was based off. Not some random colonial map making. Anyway, the Italian occupation and the killings of Eritreans by Tigrayans from Tigray and Menelik after The Italians lost the battle of Adwa with the Askari was a big factor.

This is what the the Eritrean ascari that helped the Italians in Adwa got from Menelik II after he caught up with them in Eritrea:

He cut off their right hand and left leg. That's the punishment the Ethiopians gave to traitors....

This was used as propaganda to show that the Ethios were savages.

Federalism has little to do with this.

Eritreans are nothing more than Ethiopians who couldn't fend off Italians.

They are not a different peoples.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

i even have the facts to prove it

even there diaspora crazy bathshit insane
niggas make somali gangs look like boyscouts

wtf there's way more Somali refugees than Eritreans. Never noticed that.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Eritreans are nothing more than Ethiopians who couldn't fend off Italians.

They are not a different peoples.

idc that's completely irrelevant to the matter being discussed. Read what I wrote.

And no, they're not culturally the same but yh they're still fully Cushitic people ike the rest of xabeshas if that's what u mean. They've had their own separate kingdom called Medri Bhari. That's what the Eritrea region of Ethiopia was based on. Eritrea isn't a product of colonial map making. Unlike other countries.....

btw do u understand the concept of federalism? Just asking

 

[Apollo]

idc that completely irrelevant to the matter being discussed. Read what I wrote.

And no, they're not culturally the same but yh they're still fully Cushitic people ike the rest of xabeshas if that's what u mean. They've had their own separate kingdom called Medri Bhari. That's what the Eritrea region of Ethiopia was based on. Eritrea isn't a product of colonial map making. Unlike other countries.....

Who cares, there were pre-colonial ''independent kingdoms'' of Somalis as well, they are still the same as other Somalis.

Again, Eritreans are Ethiopians who couldn't keep out the Italians and that is the only reason why they fought for independence as they were used to a different governmental system.

Nowadays, Eritrea is a failure compared to Ethiopia and it should never have been recognized by the international community. It would have been better off under Ethiopia.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Who cares, there were pre-colonial ''independent kingdoms'' of Somalis as well, they are still the same as other Somalis.

Again, Eritreans are Ethiopians who couldn't keep out the Italians and that is the only reason why they fought for independence as they were used to a different governmental system.

Nowadays, Eritrea is a failure compared to other Ethiopia.

The italians were allowed to settle in Eritrea as part of a treaty. After they got destroyed at the battle of Adwa and ran back to Eritrea Menelik II decided to not pursue them and mede them go later on. Same thing done by Selassie.

It's a simple google search. Italians worked with Menelik II and he gave them Eritrea to settle in, simple as that. Apart from that Italians were always defeated by the Ethiopians and could never colonise Ethiopia, not an inch of land.

The reason why Eritreans fought for independence is a completely different topic. It was a process that made Eritreans finally agree on independence.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

idc that's completely irrelevant to the matter being discussed. Read what I wrote.

And no, they're not culturally the same but yh they're still fully Cushitic people ike the rest of xabeshas if that's what u mean. They've had their own separate kingdom called Medri Bhari. That's what the Eritrea region of Ethiopia was based on. Eritrea isn't a product of colonial map making. Unlike other countries.....

btw do u understand the concept of federalism? Just asking

They are culturally & ethnically the same.

Some Tigrayans from Ethiopia & Eritrea want to unite by establishing the Agazian Republic:

 

[Apollo]

The italians were allowed to settle in Eritrea as part of a treaty. After they got destroyed at the battle of Adwa and ran back to Eritrea Menelik II decided to not pursue them and mede them go later on. Same thing done by Selassie.

It's a simple google search. Italians worked with Menelik II and he gave them Eritrea to settle in, simple as that. Apart from that Italians were always defeated by the Ethiopians and could never colonise Ethiopia, not an inch of land.

The reason why Eritreans fought for independence is a completely different topic. It was a process that made Eritreans finally agree on independence.

Still proving my point: Ethiopians who couldn't keep the Italians out.

There is nothing unique about Eritrea whatsoever.

The Somali province of Ethiopia deserved independence way more than shitty ass Eritrea.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

They are culturally & ethnically the same.

Some Tigrayans from Ethiopia & Eritrea want to unite by establishing the Agazian Republic:

The only Eritreans that are the same as Ethiopians are the Tigrinyas (same as Ethio Tigray) and Afars. That's it.

btw that map is exactly the same as Medri Bahri. The Agazian dream might occur if Afwerki gets overrun by these guys but it's a pipe dream...kinda.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Still proving my point: Ethiopians who couldn't keep the Italians out.

There is nothing unique about Eritrea whatsoever.

The Somali province of Ethiopia deserved independence way more than shitty ass Eritrea.

No, it doesn't prove your point. Ethiopians only allowed Italians to settle in Eritrea as a deal THEY made with Italy so that Menelik II could become a stronger emperor and modernise Ethiopia. The Italians were just allowed to stay in Eritrea for that simple reason.

Other than that Italians were always defeated by Ethiopians several times and could never colonise Ethiopia, at all.

Stop forcing this "they couldn't keep the Italians out" stuff cus it's completely incorrect. That facts are facts @Apollo . Italians knew they couldn't settle in Eritrea without permission from the emperor, in fact, Ethiopians got rid of them once and for all.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Teeri-Alpha what the hell are you ranting about you're rants about ogadenia seems to keep killing threads cadi iskadig and hop of the thread it's not about the somali region but the newly created sidamo region

The rest of you in this thread have a nice discussion am out

Ka nax, i did not start this, but i sure ended it,

anyways, we own the land and all yall are just marti, its an Absame land, like it or hat it,

 

[madaxweyne]

Ka nax, i did not start this, but i sure ended it,

anyways, we own the land and all yall are just marti, its an Absame land, like it or hat it,

So what why do you feel the need to keep saying this


Congrats and I wish the best for the people their that's all am gonna say

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

The Somali province of Ethiopia deserved independence way more than shitty ass Eritrea.

It lost that right when it got conquered by Ethiopians. Then it fell in the hand of the British and through smart negotiations Menelik II got Ogaden all to himself. Ogaden was like a hot potatoe thrown around, it had no power from inside and no purpose other than being ruled by someone other than Somalia. Somalia was so irrelevant to both the British and Ethiopians that they didn't even see their protest as anything worth worrying about.

Eritrea on the other hand is the historical land of Medri Bahri and Eritreans fought for 30 years against a country 20 times larger than their own. Now, who's "shitty" here? Don't make me laugh. lmao. Eritrean soldiers were also considered the strongest and fiercest out of any colonial army, up there with the British Gurkhas. Eritrean Askaris defeated British troops in battle and defeated Lybians, they were the ones to slay the famous Omar Al-Mukhtar of Libya and carved Christian crosses on the foreheads of many inhabitants in Libya. Savage.

The world recognised Eritreansa and Eritrea for its prestige, Ogaden was a barren desert with no history or legacy worth mentioning (in the eyes of the world not mine lol)

 

[Apollo]

It lost that right when it got conquered by Ethiopians. Then it fell in the hand of the British and through smart negotiations Menelik II got Ogaden all to himself. Ogaden was like a hot potatoe thrown around, it had no power from inside and no purpose other than being ruled by someone other than Somalia. Somalia was so irrelevant to both the British and Ethiopians that they didn't even see their protest as anything worth worrying about.

Eritrea on the other hand is the historical land of Medri Bahri and Eritreans fought for 30 years against a country 0 times larger than their own. Now, who's "shitty" here? Don't make me laugh. lmao. Eritrean soldiers were also considered the strongest and fiercest out of any colonial army, up there with the British Gurkhas. Eritrean Askaris defeated British troops in battle and defeated Lybians, they were the ones to slay the famous Omar Al-Mukhtar of Libya and carved Christian crosses on the foreheads of many inhabitants in Libya. Savage.

The world recognised Eritreansa and Eritrea for its prestige, Ogaden was a barren desert with no history or legacy worth mentioning (in the eyes of the world not mine lol)

@Teeri-Alpha @Cam @SOMALI GENERAL take on this guy.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

@Teeri-Alpha @Cam @SOMALI GENERAL take on this guy.

I'm out sxb

Didn't bother replying prior.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

@Teeri-Alpha @Cam @SOMALI GENERAL take on this guy.

lol what's the matter? Did I lie? :siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

I'm out sxb

Didn't bother replying prior.

Cool. idk why since I agreed that Eris are pretty much the same as Ethios but not in all apsects.

@Teeri-Alpha @Cam come are u gonna repsonf to the aid sent out by @Apollo ? Defenf your qabil :siilaanyosmile:

 

[madaxweyne]

It lost that right when it got conquered by Ethiopians. Then it fell in the hand of the British and through smart negotiations Menelik II got Ogaden all to himself. Ogaden was like a hot potatoe thrown around, it had no power from inside and no purpose other than being ruled by someone other than Somalia. Somalia was so irrelevant to both the British and Ethiopians that they didn't even see their protest as anything worth worrying about.

Eritrea on the other hand is the historical land of Medri Bahri and Eritreans fought for 30 years against a country 0 times larger than their own. Now, who's "shitty" here? Don't make me laugh. lmao. Eritrean soldiers were also considered the strongest and fiercest out of any colonial army, up there with the British Gurkhas. Eritrean Askaris defeated British troops in battle and defeated Lybians, they were the ones to slay the famous Omar Al-Mukhtar of Libya and carved Christian crosses on the foreheads of many inhabitants in Libya. Savage.

The world recognised Eritreansa and Eritrea for its prestige, Ogaden was a barren desert with no history or legacy worth mentioning (in the eyes of the world not mine lol)

Good point that was a epic speech i agree ogaden was a hot patoto that was thrown around
Congrats @Teeri-Alpha you're people are nothing more then hot patoatos thrown around by alpha Menelik and the British :siilaanyolaugh:

 

[madaxweyne]

It lost that right when it got conquered by Ethiopians. Then it fell in the hand of the British and through smart negotiations Menelik II got Ogaden all to himself. Ogaden was like a hot potatoe thrown around, it had no power from inside and no purpose other than being ruled by someone other than Somalia. Somalia was so irrelevant to both the British and Ethiopians that they didn't even see their protest as anything worth worrying about.

Eritrea on the other hand is the historical land of Medri Bahri and Eritreans fought for 30 years against a country 20 times larger than their own. Now, who's "shitty" here? Don't make me laugh. lmao. Eritrean soldiers were also considered the strongest and fiercest out of any colonial army, up there with the British Gurkhas. Eritrean Askaris defeated British troops in battle and defeated Lybians, they were the ones to slay the famous Omar Al-Mukhtar of Libya and carved Christian crosses on the foreheads of many inhabitants in Libya. Savage.

The world recognised Eritreansa and Eritrea for its prestige, Ogaden was a barren desert with no history or legacy worth mentioning (in the eyes of the world not mine lol)

This speech deserves an Award for the most epic speech made on somalispot damm

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Imagine what thoughts was going through the heads of Ethiopian Somalis when Habesha, Orthodox Christian farmers were given independence in 1993 but, Cushitic Nomadic Muslims (them) were not. I can not fathom the amount of rage that they would have endured to see that. Especially now days witnessing how much of a complete shithole Eritrea has become.