Ethiopia to dismantle regional special forces in favour of 'centralized army'

[Abaq]

Did I disagree with that? Read again. I disagreed with the fact that you claim you were on the verge of victory when that was not the case.

Before Liyu was created we were on the verge of victory. Ethiopia was surrounded in the regional capitals and couldn’t their supply lines were regularly harassed. It’s the reason the British quickly stepped in to create the Liyu. The whole purpose if Liyu was to save Ethiopia and defeat Og.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

You are right the purpose was to defeat OG cause you isolated yourself in ONLF after the demise of WSLF. Zenawi/TPLF Admin saw through it and thought it would be befitting to make you fight your own kin lol.

If that was the case then why were ONLF members defacting by their own free will to join Liyuu since there was no forced recruitment? That doesn't sound like a group that was on the "verge of victory"

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No one prevented other clans to fight after disbandment of WSLF, don't blame the ones that actualy fought for your inaction.

Recruitmen took place in prison, where prisoners were given the choice between joining Liyu police or remaining in jail.

no force, you either join them or rot in jail.

 

[Arkan]

Before Liyu was created we were on the verge of victory. Ethiopia was surrounded in the regional capitals and couldn’t their supply lines were regularly harassed. It’s the reason the British quickly stepped in to create the Liyu. The whole purpose if Liyu was to save Ethiopia and defeat Og.

You do realise the Liyu was created in 2007 right? Before that it was the ENDF running Galbeed. So what are you waffling on about the British for? Kulaha stepped in to create Liyu.

 

[Abaq]

You do realise the Liyu was created in 2007 right? Before that it was the ENDF running Galbeed. So what are you waffling on about the British for? Kulaha stepped into to create Liyu. View attachment 265017

Are you being purposely thick? Do you not know the British trained Liyu?

 

[mahamdov]

Unite?

Ethiopia has never been united, and never will be, lol. Using direct or indirect forced measures, won’t change any of it.

The ethnic conflicts will only exacerbate, as our neighboring regions have more organized armed non-state forces and militias. Not to forget the support from military and gov’t establishment in Addis.

This is not a good sign for border communities…

Border conflicts will end when there are no armed militias. Most border wars have been caused by regional forces
It was like this in the past, and there were no wars like those that occurred in the last two decades
And Ethiopia is one country. Do you think that every tribe controls its own land like the shit hole of Somalia?

 

[bidenkulaha]

Border conflicts will end when there are no armed militias. Most border wars have been caused by regional forces
It was like this in the past, and there were no wars like those that occurred in the last two decades
And Ethiopia is one country. Do you think that every tribe controls its own land like the shit hole of Somalia?

Do you really think oromo’s are getting dismantled by abiy? This is the biggest issue. Ethiopia has its own anti-Somali goals like removing Somalis from the Djibouti trade route too

I agree tho that if there was an actual Ethiopia government that could be trusted to be neutral it’s best to disarm

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

You do realise the Liyu was created in 2007 right? Before that it was the ENDF running Galbeed. So what are you waffling on about the British for? Kulaha stepped in to create Liyu. View attachment 265017

britian spend 15 mill pounds training Liyu, not to mention Ethiopia was given 350mill worth of aid by britian because of their counter terrorism operations.

 

[TekNiKo]

Also, as an FYI, the whole purpose of Liyu was to defeat Ogaden. Before it’s establishment, ONLF was on the verge of victory and Ethiopia only controlled the main town centers. Let that sink in…

Keep changing tunesfirst it was Ogaden rule Somali Galbeed via Liyuu now its to defeat Ogaden?

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Keep changing tunesfirst it was Ogaden rule Somali Galbeed via Liyuu now its to defeat Ogaden?

their entire purpose was defeat ONLF by causing division among OG.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Border conflicts will end when there are no armed militias. Most border wars have been caused by regional forces

Yeah, the keyword is militias. But it’s only regional forces being dismantled. The gov’t has no control of the militias. Lately, they are the *main* ones causing havoc in border regions. Again, our neighbors are heavily armed and unfortunately will have the upper arm, and thus continue the border conflicts.

It was like this in the past, and there were no wars like those that occurred in the last two decades

Ethnic federalism have created a situation, that you won’t be able to undo regardless of what you try. As someone that comes from a border community, we will never go back to how things were before. And that’s the cold truth.

And Ethiopia is one country. Do you think that every tribe controls its own land like the shit hole of Somalia?

You are praising Ethiopia more than you should, kkk. If anything, this will only create more division. I don’t think the country will fall anytime soon, but expect more craziness as Somalia improves in the future

 

[mahamdov]

Do you really think oromo’s are getting dismantled by abiy? This is the biggest issue. Ethiopia has its own anti-Somali goals like removing Somalis from the Djibouti trade route too

I agree tho that if there was an actual Ethiopia government that could be trusted to be neutral it’s best to disarm

We will see in the future if the dismantling will take place or not, but now it is official
Even in some border areas, the federal army was placed in place of the provincial forces
We have been hearing this for long time that Ethiopia wants to keep the Somalis off the railroad
This is not true, the Issas in Djibouti live on this train, and most of the state's income comes from there. So why does Ethiopia want to remove Ciise from the railway while the Ciise want the railway to pass through their land Because they are the ones who benefit from this

 

[Arkan]

Are you being purposely thick? Do you not know the British trained Liyu?

I infact did not know that but that wasn't the original point. Don't change the goalpost

 

[mahamdov]

Of course, we will not forget the number of Somali women and children killed by the Liyu If there is a statistic, I assure you that the Liyu killed more Somalis than the Ethiopian army.

 

[LL247]

Imagine thinking that SL had any say on this decision, kkk. Says a lot about your knowledge of Ethiopian politics

Did not claim SL complaints to Ethiopia about some Liyuu involvement in Las anod was the only cause, but SL did complain(fact) and this Liyuu disbandment comes a short time after (fact), so a reasonable conclusion to assume it had some impact, but what ever the reasoning was, its a big WIN for Somaliland.

 

[Arkan]

Amhara locals go out to protest and try resist their regional forces disarmament. Will Somali Liyu get a show out like this after all the havoc they've wrecked on the region?

 

[bidenkulaha]

Amhara locals go out to protest and try resist their regional forces disarmament. Will Liyu get a show out like this after all the havoc they've wrecked on the region?
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Not a single person will protest for Liyu

 

[GaradShabeel]

Did not claim SL complaints to Ethiopia about some Liyuu involvement in Las anod was the only cause, but SL did complain(fact) and this Liyuu disbandment comes a short time after (fact), so a reasonable conclusion to assume it had some impact, but what ever the reasoning was, its a big WIN for Somaliland.

Again, you need to follow Ethiopian politics more as you seem clueless considering your conclusions. I don’t doubt that SL complained, but this decision did NOT come as result of it. It’s been part of Abiy’s vision ever since he took power. And it’s been talked about for quite a long time. So, thinking that SL even contributed to this, is just gullible as they have zero influence beyond its ‘border’. Heck even part of the the territories SL claims, kkk

 

[GaradShabeel]

Amhara locals go out to protest and try resist their regional forces disarmament. Will Somali Liyu get a show out like this after all the havoc they've wrecked on the region?
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When you have a notorious militia like FANO and other Amhara forces, they can not even be compared to Somali liyuu police. They’ll even come across as angels just looking at what they did in the Tigray war alone

I’m afraid that it’s only border communities feeling sorrow over this. Or some shall I say; I wish I could say the same on my end, as they’ve only been useful in certain border areas. But I never wanted them gone tho

In all honesty, in the long run the negative aspects will outweigh positive side by not having separate state forces. Some of the people rejoicing this act, will regret later. Mark my words.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Amhara locals go out to protest and try resist their regional forces disarmament. Will Somali Liyu get a show out like this after all the havoc they've wrecked on the region?
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Why would Somali Liyu protest? there in it for the money and the benefits.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Why would Somali Liyu protest? there in it for the money and the benefits.

He’s referring to locals expressing their dismay over the abolishment of state forces