Ethiopia's Vicious Civil War Plan's to Disrupt the Somali Elections.

[Inquisitive_]

This morning I had a sit down with the relative of a person campaigning for Farmaajo (Murursade) as well as one campaigning for sheikh shariif to catch up with information on the ground and other worrying things I have heard.

I have totally underestimated the sheer influence of Ethiopia, while overestimating the UAE/Turkey influence.

Anyone that has been reading the news lately or has relatives in Xamar will tell you the massive amounts of clan militia's that have entered the city from outside of Xamar and a massive split within the SNA camp. but no explanation why.

You would have also read the reports that every opposition leader has formed an alliance against HSM/Damul Jadiid and that both Tarzan & the vice-president of P/land as well other others have come out today asking for Gabre to leave the country, as well as the election to be held in Xalane (IC base)

The plan of the Ethiopian's, whom have intelligence offices next door were the election is taking place along with thousand spies, and even influence over a portion of the SNA, have instructed the MP's they control (Xidig camp estimated at a 60+) and another 70 they are not so sure about, for photographic evidence that they will vote for HSM.

An SNA whistle blower (recently killed at the hotel blast), leaked plan's to Uganda amisom first then the opposition, that the Ethiopian military plan if HSM doesn't get the 100+ in the first round (which means he will loose), was to instruct some SNA's to abandon their defensive positions around the hall.

This would allow their Al-Shabab lackeys to storm the place, a massive fire fight to start, possibly many candidates killed, with Plan B if that failed, a rogue SNA elements to storm the place masquerading as al-shabab and start shooting after the power is cut to the building

The Ethiopian's are hoping for one of two things, full blown civil war to erupt which is the most likely case, and if the civil war doesn't happen, then HSM would take over through martial law, both desirable options to them.

The opposition have prepared for this, they have managed to split the SNA, 70% of them are now backing the opposition and in addition to this they have deployed 1000 clan militia's inside the city all supporting Shariif/Farmaajo predominantly.

This will hopefully put an end to this clandestine Ethiopian civil war attempt and their Damul Jadiid lackey Mafiaso, but just today it has come out, the Ethiopian are moving towards plan C and that is to start this civil war and shoot out between the SNA and other militia's before the election even takes place so the IC doing monitoring flees the place.

The reason for this is that phones are barred from the election hall, so are any other devices that can be used to monitor or be used as evidence which way an MP voted, as it currently stands right now, the 4 candidates that will progressing


Round 1

Sheikh Shariif - 70-80 votes (estimated)
Hasan Sheikh Mohamoud 60-70 votes (Ethiopian and Damul Jadiid hopeful of 100+)
Farmaajo - 50-60 votes
CC - 30-40 votes.

The final round looks likely to be a shoot out between Sheikh Shariif and Farmaajo, especially since just today both Sheikh Shariif and HSM attacked Farmaajo, you don't attack candidate like this unless there is a real threat.

Please keep Somalia in your prayers that this clandestine Ethiopian plot doesn't go ahead this coming Wednesday. There is a real fear of this in and around the city with Uganda Amisom contingent on high alert, this is the reason for the recent Nigerian police deployments.

The criminality of the 2 decade old Ethiopian stooge network is being abolished and dismantled before our eyes, you seeing the same things happening in S/land and P/land, were every Somali wants full independence from their encroachment, dictations and criminal apparatus and people are now openly speaking out against it.

 

[Lord Flacko]

@Inquisitive_

What is your view on Farmaajo?

 

[Inquisitive_]

@Inquisitive_

What is your view on Farmaajo?

The only ones that have proven experience and shown their love of Somalinimo from the 24 roster of candidates running, are Tarzan, Farmaajo and Sheikh Shariif only, the rest are either crooks, unproven or unknown and the last time we went with an unknown unproven candidate we got HSM

I do not have an issue with either of them winning, but my preference is Sheikh Shariif, I have met both Tarzan and the Sheikh in person, the latter twice. You wouldn't have ever known about Tarzan nor Farmaajo if it wasn't for sheikh Shariif policy of only appointing competent professional people.

Keep in mind in a Somalia that was entirely ruled by Al-shabab including most of Xamar, he stood up against the Ethiopian's using diplomacy and does so until this day, it's why I don't back Farmaajo or Tarzan because they are very combative and not diplomatic which is stupid when your a weak country.

This is how Farmaajo was disposed as a PM, he picked fights with everyone openly rather then using diplomacy, hence the Ethiopian stooge Sakiin who was running the parliament managed to get him out due to IC pressure

He went so crazy as a result he directed his vitriol at everyone else at that time, this is not the characteristics of a leader we need at this time, but I heard since that he has changed from this fiery approach, this is your typical HG MX behaviours we don't need today.

I support Shariif and if he doesn't get in, second option is Farmaajo hoping he has learned from his lessons, Tarzan doesn't stand a chance anyway, if both get to the final instead of HSM or another unknown figure, I would be very happy.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

What are your thoughts on Zakariye Xaaji Maxamuud?

 

[TekNiKo]

I pray for a smooth and lovely transition. Smooth, I warned you that Ethiopia shall never change her destabilisation policy regarding Somalia, while you were naively arguing that things have changed. Ethiopia is our number one enemy

 

[Inquisitive_]

I pray for a smooth and lovely transition. Smooth, I warned you that Ethiopia shall never change her destabilisation policy regarding Somalia, while you were naively arguing that things have changed. Ethiopia is our number one enemy

Things are not black and white my friend, it never wants you to rise to a position you could challenge nor rise without her oversight. If she looses that oversight and control to UAE you become an existential threat to her and hence it's back to destabilization's.

You have to be able to look at things geopolitically and leave emotions out, there are no permanent enemies nor friends in this game, just interests only.

Friends can become foes tomorrow and vice versa P/land S/land are a good examples of this with regards to Ethiopia, her huge China deal reversed her outright destabilization's agendas under Zenawi

Not because of any benevolence towards you, but because now it will have a negative affect on her as well as the entire region hurting $$ and her interests, because China was planning to make her the hub/gateway.

That's why Zenawi towards the end of his reign became friends with ogadens he was butchering and made a deal, because China found oil, and conflict will jeopardise this profitable lucrative deal, hence why Klika5 is thriving as a result.

That's what this is all about, any Pro UAE president is an existential threat to her as well as us, that's why she is threatening Somaliland currently with the UAE base whom were best friends before, in this scenario if she can't get a non UAE president or a puppet to win, there is no choice but civil war or martial law with HSM taking reigns, because now you become a threat to her very existence.

This black and white outlook we have is what lead Siyad barre government to the stupid flip-flop alliance between the USA/USSR, making us look like two-faced hypocrites then driven into a pointless self-destructing war, which any smart person would know the world will not allow you to win.

What are your thoughts on Zakariye Xaaji Maxamuud?

He gave the best speech, but he stands no chance, the only thing I know him as was the ARS alliance against the Ethiopian backed TFG, for that he deserves tremendous credit without doubt, a nationalist

But I can guarantee you that most people will have never heard of him and therein lies his problem, a poor PR team or not even a team as such.

 

[Canuck]

Ethiopia is desperately trying to get Hassan Sheikh Mohamud re-elected as a president of Somalia. Its renewed agenda, however, goes against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Somalis and members of the Somali Federal Parliament.

 

[Tenacious]

Things are not black and white my friend, it never wants you to rise to a position you could challenge nor rise without her oversight. If she looses that oversight and control to UAE you become an existential threat to her and hence it's back to destabilization's.

You have to be able to look at things geopolitically and leave emotions out, there are no permanent enemies nor friends in this game, just interests only.

Friends can become foes tomorrow and vice versa P/land S/land are a good examples of this with regards to Ethiopia, her huge China deal reversed her outright destabilization's agendas under Zenawi

Not because of any benevolence towards you, but because now it will have a negative affect on her as well as the entire region hurting $$ and her interests, because China was planning to make her the hub/gateway.

That's why Zenawi towards the end of his reign became friends with ogadens he was butchering and made a deal, because China found oil, and conflict will jeopardise this profitable lucrative deal, hence why Klika5 is thriving as a result.

That's what this is all about, any Pro UAE president is an existential threat to her as well as us, that's why she is threatening Somaliland currently with the UAE base whom were best friends before, in this scenario if she can't get a non UAE president or a puppet to win, there is no choice but civil war or martial law with HSM taking reigns, because now you become a threat to her very existence.

This black and white outlook we have is what lead Siyad barre government to the stupid flip-flop alliance between the USA/USSR, making us look like two-faced hypocrites then driven into a pointless self-destructing war, which any smart person would know the world will not allow you to win.




He gave the best speech, but he stands no chance, the only thing I know him as was the ARS alliance against the Ethiopian backed TFG, for that he deserves tremendous credit without doubt, a nationalist

But I can guarantee you that most people will have never heard of him and therein lies his problem, a poor PR team or not even a team as such.

Zenwai NEVER made any deals with Ogaden as a whole like you are trying to make it sound but with a sub clan( reer cabdulle). The plan was to continue to murder ONLF and their supporters, hence, why the extermination of the rest who have been resisting kuffar/mujrim rule has not stopped, nor have their lives gotten better because they stil continue to resist. Furthermore, Ogadenia is NOT thriving in anyway shape or form, do not let the few buildings every kuffar lackey takes a pictures/videos of to make it seem as though its any better, fool you; We have families there, ask us, before you pretend to know about a region or a people you clearly know nothing about.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Zenwai NEVER made any deals with Ogaden as a whole like you are trying to make it sound but with a sub clan( reer cabdulle).

Slow down with the emotions, I have many families that settle in those regions too and I am not on TPLF or Ileey's side, so I don't know why you attack me, the intention of the post wasn't discussion of the intricacies of the deals, merely 'they' made deals only because of the huge natural reserves found with Chinese pressure.

Yes it was reer-cabdulle first, but now there are many working with them, they can't do nothing by themselves, in fact I agree with the deal, live to fight another day, why fight as a small sub-clan against the entire Ethiopia, including plenty patsy Somali collaborators at that time like S/land P/land that were handing over innocent people because they were Ogaden and those within Kilika5? not forget Super power support for Ethiopia?

Your type of emotional thinking is what lead to many groups being wiped from the face of the earth, even our religion encourages retreat based on stratagem, resisting is the dumbest thing you could do as a small renegade sub-clan, your chances will come, reflect on these wise quotes from a man never lost a battle.


He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious
Sun Tzu


The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy
Sun Tzu


The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.
Sun Tzu


Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.
Sun Tzu


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Sun Tzu

 

[Inquisitive_]

Ethiopia is desperately trying to get Hassan Sheikh Mohamud re-elected as a president of Somalia. Its renewed agenda, however, goes against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Somalis and members of the Somali Federal Parliament.

It's preparing it's own death bed but it doesn't know this yet, this is all part of the plans of the Most High that works in ways that are not understood by most, the ground work is being laid to remove their 3 decade long tyrannical influence from the entire region including the whole of Somalia.

All their security apparatus is being exposed, they are in retreat everywhere, fighting on many fronts, P/land has switched, S/land will switch, both her obedient darling federal states she controlled mentally without any force whom the populations both loved her (not so much today)

Now the stubborn Koonfur that she had to control with force and terrorists groups is on the verge of spewing her whole clandestine apparatus out, the pressure is coming from everywhere, within Ethiopia, from the UAE, from Koonfur, from P/land, from S/land from Eritrea, from Egypt and now even from South-Sudan which the Egyptian air-force just yesterday bombed her militia's.

The end game is near, Wednesday will tell us how near that end game is, but so far it's looking good.

 

[XamarCade]

It's preparing it's own death bed but it doesn't know this yet, this is all part of the plans of the Most High that works in ways that are not understood by most, the ground work is being laid to remove their 3 decade long tyrannical influence from the entire region including the whole of Somalia.

All their security apparatus is being exposed, they are in retreat everywhere, fighting on many fronts, P/land has switched, S/land will switch, both her obedient darling federal states she controlled mentally without any force whom the populations both loved her (not so much today)

Now the stubborn Koonfur that she had to control with force and terrorists groups is on the verge of spewing her whole clandestine apparatus out, the pressure is coming from everywhere, within Ethiopia, from the UAE, from Koonfur, from P/land, from S/land from Eritrea, from Egypt and now even from South-Sudan which the Egyptian air-force just yesterday bombed her militia's.

The end game is near, Wednesday will tell us how near that end game is, but so far it's looking good.

Its been looooooong overdue sxb.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Some good news, it looks like the USA is also against this Ethiopian Coup attempt, after reports have started going viral, I have even sent an email to the US, British and Turkish embassies about this after this post yesterday.



I have no idea why Sheikh Shariif and Farmaajo campaign didn't go public with this. These Somali's are absolutely useless when it comes to PR.

I only began to investigate after reports that thousand clan militias were pouring into the city, but no one explaining why, this is the result of just very little activism, but a good step in the right direction.

I have also mass mailed most prominent Somali websites last night, the whole process was automated. It looks the way these people get intelligence is this way or browsing forums like with UAE thread in somnet I made provoking a similar reaction after mass mail again.

https://www.somnet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=382028

The breaking news currently is that 2 cars laden with explosives were caught, one heading towards the parliment, the other heading towards Hotel Jazeera were many MP's opposed to the Ethiopian's are based

http://hobyomedia.com/2017/02/deg-d...raxyo-madaxtooyada-muqdisho-hotel-jaziira-la/


As a result



Pray for Somalia, the Ethiopian's are throwing everything they can at us right now, they won't go without a big bang.

 

[maestro]

Slow down with the emotions, I have many families that settle in those regions too and I am not on TPLF or Ileey's side, so I don't know why you attack me, the intention of the post wasn't discussion of the intricacies of the deals, merely 'they' made deals only because of the huge natural reserves found with Chinese pressure.

Yes it was reer-cabdulle first, but now there are many working with them, they can't do nothing by themselves, in fact I agree with the deal, live to fight another day, why fight as a small sub-clan against the entire Ethiopia, including plenty patsy Somali collaborators at that time like S/land P/land that were handing over innocent people because they were Ogaden and those within Kilika5? not forget Super power support for Ethiopia?

Your type of emotional thinking is what lead to many groups being wiped from the face of the earth, even our religion encourages retreat based on stratagem, resisting is the dumbest thing you could do as a small renegade sub-clan, your chances will come, reflect on these wise quotes from a man never lost a battle.


He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious
Sun Tzu


The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy
Sun Tzu


The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.
Sun Tzu


Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.
Sun Tzu


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Sun Tzu

This man Sun Tzu was pure genius. Amazing how his book is still amazing and relevant after all those thousands of years.

I agree with you 100%. We have no allies and we can't fight a superpower backed country with the strongest military out of the black African countries. Somalia had it been a strong state would have backed us and supplied us or maybe even moderate a secession referendum but Somalia was dead and the fragment states were all made by Ethiopia.

It was a smart decision to put down the weapons and work with Ethiopia. Know when you can fight and when you cannot.

Here's to hoping Somalia gets back on it's feet and the shithole colonial project disintegrates into a million fragments soon so we can return the favor.

 

[Galaeri]

Slow down with the emotions, I have many families that settle in those regions too and I am not on TPLF or Ileey's side, so I don't know why you attack me, the intention of the post wasn't discussion of the intricacies of the deals, merely 'they' made deals only because of the huge natural reserves found with Chinese pressure.

Yes it was reer-cabdulle first, but now there are many working with them, they can't do nothing by themselves, in fact I agree with the deal, live to fight another day, why fight as a small sub-clan against the entire Ethiopia, including plenty patsy Somali collaborators at that time like S/land P/land that were handing over innocent people because they were Ogaden and those within Kilika5? not forget Super power support for Ethiopia?

Your type of emotional thinking is what lead to many groups being wiped from the face of the earth, even our religion encourages retreat based on stratagem, resisting is the dumbest thing you could do as a small renegade sub-clan, your chances will come, reflect on these wise quotes from a man never lost a battle.


He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious
Sun Tzu


The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy
Sun Tzu


The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.
Sun Tzu


Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.
Sun Tzu


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Sun Tzu

I agree with the majority of the things you have to say but I have a question for you. Why do you always make excuses for your tribe, and why do you unfairly drag Puntland all the time. The only Puntland administration that ever gave Ogadens to the Ethiopians was the Faroole one, it had never occurred before that unlike in other states of somehow (however shameful it is). If I am not mistaken it was your clan that provided safe passage to ONLF fighters last year only to murder a number of them and hand them over to Iley, the slain including the leader of the ONLF at the time. I can go on but there is no need, I think you get the point.

I also also noticed you project your states problems onto Puntland, as if power hungry HG men acting in their own interests are working as agents of Puntland. Historically speaking HG's heavyweights have had fought amongst themselves and within Hawiye simply out of their own pure greed. They fought Ali Mahdi when he became President, they fought amongst themselves (at the time of aidiids death), they fought the xawaadles and practically everybody else. All because they were so power hungry, not because PL was somehow miraculously involved. It is typical to try and hide your tribes problems or "L's" but to project them onto someone else is just madness. You come across as a Habr Gedir apologist sometimes and it really takes away from what you have to say.

 

[Inquisitive_]

@Galaeri

You haven't read much of my posts, because if you did, you would have saw my attacks on Ceydiid, Qeybdiid, Guled,shakur, shakiir & the senseless pointless wars etc. I do this quiet regularly, if you followed my posts you wouldn't make such a statement.

I can bring you a dozen quotes, but let's not derail this thread with this, there is bigger fish to fry, every clan in Somalia was at one point a stooge and at another point a fighter throughout history, none is immune from this, the stooges yesterday are today's enemies and vice versa, it's what happens when your subdued by a superior force with disunity.

The vice president of P/land just yesterday came out public-ally calling for Gabre to leave the country, there is no day like today were everyone is united that Ethiopia is an enemy, few months ago, we were split on this basic question.

I am one of the very few that public-ally takes such partisan nationalistic stance, everyone else makes excuses for their degenerates, not me.

 

[Galaeri]

@Galaeri

You haven't read much of my posts, because if you did, you would have saw my attacks on Ceydiid, Qeybdiid, Guled,shakur, shakiir & the senseless pointless wars etc. I do this quiet regularly, if you followed my posts you wouldn't make such a statement.

I can bring you a dozen quotes, but let's not derail this thread with this, there is bigger fish to fry, every clan in Somalia was at one point a stooge and at another point a fighter throughout history, none is immune from this, the stooges yesterday are today's enemies and vice versa, it's what happens when your subdued by a superior force with disunity.

The vice president of P/land just yesterday came out public-ally calling for Gabre to leave the country, there is no day like today were everyone is united that Ethiopia is an enemy, few months ago, we were split on this basic question.

I have read a number of them, but I am rather unsatisfied with your portrayal of some. Like Aideed and Qeybdiid, it would seem that they are good men that have bad decisions when it is otherwise.

I know there are traitors in every tribe, but I find it hard accept that Puntland is to blame for all of these things that you claim. Most specifically when you refer to particular HG criminals as Puntland stooges, I doubt Puntland has this kind of prowess. If they did they would surely be in a much better position today. Aside from that I am quite satisfied with your posts.

 

[Tenacious]

Slow down with the emotions, I have many families that settle in those regions too and I am not on TPLF or Ileey's side, so I don't know why you attack me, the intention of the post wasn't discussion of the intricacies of the deals, merely 'they' made deals only because of the huge natural reserves found with Chinese pressure.

Yes it was reer-cabdulle first, but now there are many working with them, they can't do nothing by themselves, in fact I agree with the deal, live to fight another day, why fight as a small sub-clan against the entire Ethiopia, including plenty patsy Somali collaborators at that time like S/land P/land that were handing over innocent people because they were Ogaden and those within Kilika5? not forget Super power support for Ethiopia?

Your type of emotional thinking is what lead to many groups being wiped from the face of the earth, even our religion encourages retreat based on stratagem, resisting is the dumbest thing you could do as a small renegade sub-clan, your chances will come, reflect on these wise quotes from a man never lost a battle.


He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious
Sun Tzu


The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy
Sun Tzu


The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.
Sun Tzu


Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.
Sun Tzu


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Sun Tzu

You do not have any family in the region, and the fact you claim this is an Ogaden deal proofs your lies. Reer Cabdulle, sl, pl, Djibouti and now hawiye, are used by Ethiopia to terrorise any Ogaden who resists. I have families in every village, town and city and know about the happenings of Ogadenia more than you. As for those who died, Ethiopia is killing Somalis either way even the ones in Somalia; just last week they murdered five children, women and eldly in South West. What have those innocent people done? as far as I know the Somalis in South West did not resist when Ethiopia came to that state and yet they have murdering them.



ONLF should bow down? so your strategy is to allow Ethiopia to exploit Ogaden natural resources, worth billions of dollars, than in turn Ethiopia becomes more stronger economically and worse of all Militarily than ever, to completely wipe us out?. That is your strategy? Your advice is very stupid, if we allow Ethiopia to get that far than its over not only for Ogaden but every other Somali. If it succeeds in exploiting that resources and ONLF made the decision to put down its weapons it will not matter either because Ethiopia does not want to see a strong Somali, so where did you get that it will have any benefit if ONLF retreats tomorrow. The fact that they are meddling in Somalias affairs should tell you clearly where Ethiopia stands when it comes to us. The fact that they dont want Somalia of the old should tell you, they want not a single Somali to become strong. They wish for our complete extermination or complete subjugation where we will be their slaves mentally and physically. Please do not ever try to give us silly advice, focus on Mogadisho and leave our affairs to us and most importantly stop spewing this lie that all Ogaden is with Ethiopia because if that were true, there wouldnt be jail Ogaden, there wouldnt be any Ogaden being raped, tortured, imprisoned and there would not be ONLF.

 

[Inquisitive_]

ONLF should bow down? so your strategy is to allow Ethiopia to exploit Ogaden natural resources, worth billions of dollars, than in turn Ethiopia becomes more stronger economically and worse of all Militarily than ever, to completely wipe us out?. .

Pick up the gun and fight to the last man as a single sub-sub-clan, it's guaranteed that 99% of those killed on both sides will be Somali.

It's a suicidal strategy that is the most desirable outcome for TPLF, you kill 2 birds with not a single shot fired, they would wish nothing more then this outcome.

You must be a women because I can tell by your emotions and you probably lost family (AUN), but not only will you loose more with this strategy, all the mothers weeping on the other side will be Somali's too just like you.

Listen to your fellow wise brothers like @maestro, nothing is in Ethiopia's hand, it's all in God's hands, never loose sight of this important distinction

The hatred for Xabashi's used to be exclusive to certain regions in Somalia more so then others while even worse other Somali's regarded them as friends

Today a remarkable thing is happening due to geopolitics, slowly everyone is starting to unite against them, the end is near and all those pipe-lines you worry about will become the spoils in this war.

Germany after world war 2 utterly raped butchered and occupied by allied forces with all their best scientists taken, with the same happening to Japan are perfect case studies.

Look at both of them today, absolute economic power houses, when your weak, strategy is utmost, you seek friendship, allies and patiently wait for the right opportunity that will come.

If Germany and particularly Japan followed your doctrine both would be wiped of the map entirely, it wouldn't just be Hiroshima and Nagasaki getting nuked but many more cities.

But they were smart, they swallowed their pride, surrendered, were forced as a result to make bad concessions but most importantly of all, it's people lived to fight another day.

 

[Tenacious]

Pick up the gun and fight to the last man as a single sub-sub-clan, it's guaranteed that 99% of those killed on both sides will be Somali.

It's a suicidal strategy that is the most desirable outcome for TPLF, you kill 2 birds with not a single shot fired, they would wish nothing more then this outcome.

You must be a women because I can tell by your emotions and you probably lost family (AUN), but not only will you loose more with this strategy, all the mothers weeping on the other side will be Somali's too just like you.

Listen to your fellow wise brothers like @maestro, nothing is in Ethiopia's hand, it's all in God's hands, never loose sight of this important distinction

The hatred for Xabashi's used to be exclusive to certain regions in Somalia more so then others while even worse other Somali's regarded them as friends

Today a remarkable thing is happening due to geopolitics, slowly everyone is starting to unite against them, the end is near and all those pipe-lines you worry about will become the spoils in this war.

Germany after world war 2 utterly raped butchered and occupied by allied forces with all their best scientists taken, with the same happening to Japan are perfect case studies.

Look at both of them today, absolute economic power houses, when your weak, strategy is utmost, you seek friendship, allies and patiently wait for the right opportunity that will come.

If Germany and particularly Japan followed your doctrine both would be wiped of the map entirely, it wouldn't just be Hiroshima and Nagasaki getting nuked but many more cities.

But they were smart, they swallowed their pride, surrendered, were forced as a result to make bad concessions but most importantly of all, it's people lived to fight another day.

Yes I am a woman, alxamdulilah. Its not a sub, sub, sub clan; you do not know ONLF and its memebers.
Everyone is uniting against Ethiopia kulaha. Ethiopia is every kuffars favorite child, including some Muslim countries. NO ONE will ever come against her. Even Arabs are willing to through Somalia under the bus for Ethiopia.Tell me something, you keep preaching that Ogaden should completely surrender yet you and your clan have been screaming all over that you want Ethiopia out of Somalia, so how can you preach to us what you dont practice?. Why not shut up and let Ethiopia meddle in Somalias affairs and kill as many people as she likes?. You have no business preaching to others what you refuse to practice. Ogaden have been fighting every damn gaal who ever set foot in Somalia and Ogadenia since the Sayyid and we are stil here. If Allah allowed your clan, who rape, murder, loot and do everything evil that Islam prohibits then Allah will not let a people, who have been fighting in his path perish, Allah the giver and sustainer will give Ogaden the freedom we have fought so hard and for so long, while other treacherous Somalis left us to fend for ourselves and in sha Allah, one day enjoy the fruits of our blood, sweat and tears; giving up and handing ourselves to one of the worst oppressors, is an option. Our fate is with Allah, not you or any man but WITH MY LORD. As for the two countries you brought up, they are both the US . The US troops based in Japan, rape Japanese women when they wish and nothing is ever done, so much for giving up only to end up being dictated to by a foreign nation. No thanks. As I have told you do not speak on Ogaden matters, you have a host of issue in that bloody failed state, put all your energy there.

 

[XamarCade]

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The only ones that have proven experience and shown their love of Somalinimo from the 24 roster of candidates running, are Tarzan, Farmaajo and Sheikh Shariif only, the rest are either crooks, unproven or unknown and the last time we went with an unknown unproven candidate we got HSM

I do not have an issue with either of them winning, but my preference is Sheikh Shariif, I have met both Tarzan and the Sheikh in person, the latter twice. You wouldn't have ever known about Tarzan nor Farmaajo if it wasn't for sheikh Shariif policy of only appointing competent professional people.

Keep in mind in a Somalia that was entirely ruled by Al-shabab including most of Xamar, he stood up against the Ethiopian's using diplomacy and does so until this day, it's why I don't back Farmaajo or Tarzan because they are very combative and not diplomatic which is stupid when your a weak country.

This is how Farmaajo was disposed as a PM, he picked fights with everyone openly rather then using diplomacy, hence the Ethiopian stooge Sakiin who was running the parliament managed to get him out due to IC pressure

He went so crazy as a result he directed his vitriol at everyone else at that time, this is not the characteristics of a leader we need at this time, but I heard since that he has changed from this fiery approach, this is your typical HG MX behaviours we don't need today.

I support Shariif and if he doesn't get in, second option is Farmaajo hoping he has learned from his lessons, Tarzan doesn't stand a chance anyway, if both get to the final instead of HSM or another unknown figure, I would be very happy.

Sxb if HSM allowed let us to go to court to bring charges against kenya for our maritime, and Sheik Sharif was the one who signed the MOU, why would u support him, is there something I'm missing here, who's the culprit for the MOU if it's not sharif?