Ethiopia's Vicious Civil War Plan's to Disrupt the Somali Elections.

[Inquisitive_]

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Sxb if HSM allowed let us to go to court to bring charges against kenya for our maritime, and Sheik Sharif was the one who signed the MOU, why would u support him, is there something I'm missing here, who's the culprit for the MOU if it's not sharif?

It's not Shariif, it's CC, it's the problem with the President/Prime minister paradigm, it's a western construct designed to stall progress for us, and in the case of Somalia work against each other's interest, hence the PM was backing Kikuye lead J/land were as the President didn't.

Hence why Erdogan is going for a single presidential system. When the Russian jet was downed, the order came from the PM with no presidential oversight, who was later sacked and the Russian rapprochement happened, it's part of the constitution. The sacked PM even admitted to this.

This whole upper/lower house crap is a similar western construct, the idea is to get these people always at each others throat so nothing ever gets passed or done and mark my words you will see this.

 

[Galaeri]

It's not Shariif, it's CC, it's the problem with the President/Prime minister paradigm, it's a western construct designed to stall progress for us, and in the case of Somalia work against each other's interest, hence the PM was backing Kikuye lead J/land were as the President didn't.

Hence why Erdogan is going for a single presidential system. When the Russian jet was downed, the order came from the PM with no presidential oversight, who was later sacked and the Russian rapprochement happened, it's part of the constitution. The sacked PM even admitted to this.

This whole upper/lower house crap is a similar western construct, the idea is to get these people always at each others throat so nothing ever gets passed or done and mark my words you will see this.

If we got rid of the PM role how can we stop a president from pursuing his clan interests at the expense of others. How would you stop the abuse of power? It's not like the people in the Somali government are normal people.

 

[Inquisitive_]

If we got rid of the PM role how can we stop a president from pursuing his clan interests at the expense of others. How would you stop the abuse of power? It's not like the people in the Somali government are normal people.

You simply can't, contrary to popular believe neither the PM nor President is pursuing clan interest at all, it's all an illusion, they only pursue the interests of others powers CC (Kenya) HSM (Ethiopia). If each pursued clan interests we would have been at a better state today and many regions would be developed, but this was never the case.

 

[Galaeri]

You simply can't, contrary to popular believe neither the PM nor President is pursuing clan interest at all, it's all an illusion, they only pursue the interests of others powers CC (Kenya) HSM (Ethiopia). If each pursued clan interests we would have been at a better state today and many regions would be developed, but this was never the case.

I know this and have said this before. These guys act principally out of self interest and cannot help their own clans, take HSM for instance, his clan territories are prime al shabab stronghold. That being said I know that these people at times do things to appease or to help their clans.

How do you explain the FG's decision in choosing the GL side in the last PL-GL skirmish, the opposition to the Jubbaland state formation, the acceptance of Galmudug as a federal state, and the opposition to a system for government other than 4.5 (electoral college for instance).

 

[Inquisitive_]

I know this and have said this before. These guys act principally out of self interest and cannot help their own clans, take HSM for instance, his clan territories are prime al shabab stronghold.

If you apply this foundational knowledge in every Somali political discourse you will understand 90% of the Somali politics and never become an ignorant dupe serving the interests of others.

That being said I know that these people at times do things to appease or to help their clans

Your wrong here, the problem is they can't as you stated earlier and neither have they got the inkling desire to even make that change, it serves no purpose, interest or end goals

The Somali tribal warriors and dupes will vote on tribal lines regardless whether you give them a pint of milk or not, hence it's better to save the pint of milk instead in your own coffers.

How do you explain the FG's decision in choosing the GL side in the last PL-GL skirmish, the opposition to the Jubbaland state formation, the acceptance of Galmudug as a federal state, and the opposition to a system for government other than 4.5 (electoral college for instance)

This is pure interest power play nothing to do with clan, the creation of the J/land was a Kikuyu project which CC oversaw as a Kikuyu puppet, this is no good to HSM and his Ethiopian cohorts, you have to understand Kikuyu and Tigray are at war with each other competing for Chinese investments.

Your question falsely assumes that both CC/HSM are independent which is naive, Ethiopia silently backs Somalia in the dispute with Kenya over maritime, she doesn't want Kenya to compete with Kilika5 fields, even the UAE backs Kenya position because they have large shares in those companies.

Once you see things from this premise, everything begins to make sense, why galmudug previously was staunchly Anti Ethiopia but today the most Pro Ethiopia state after South-West, why her best close buddies for decades that are S/land and P/land are today bitter enemies, it's all about interests here and geopolitics and our leaders are just pawns on the chess board, they can only choose the hand that moves them, not the directions they are steered.

But things have changed today, because there are many hands you can choose from instead of just the TPLF hand, from Turkey, Qatar, UAE and even Egypt, this is why your seeing this seismic shift right now since now we have options we previously didn't as the whole world ignored us.

it's all part of Allah's plans, I am enjoying her panics and deaths spirals, on Wednesday we are going to find out if our prayers have indeed been answered by the most high or not.

 

[XamarCade]

If you apply this foundational knowledge in every Somali political discourse you will understand 90% of the Somali politics and never become an ignorant dupe serving the interests of others.




Your wrong here, the problem is they can't as you stated earlier and neither have they got the inkling desire to even make that change, it serves no purpose, interest or end goals

The Somali tribal warriors and dupes will vote on tribal lines regardless whether you give them a pint of milk or not, hence it's better to save the pint of milk instead in your own coffers.




This is pure interest power play nothing to do with clan, the creation of the J/land was a Kikuyu project which CC oversaw as a Kikuyu puppet, this is no good to HSM and his Ethiopian cohorts, you have to understand Kikuyu and Tigray are at war with each other competing for Chinese investments.

Your question falsely assumes that both CC/HSM are independent which is naive, Ethiopia silently backs Somalia in the dispute with Kenya over maritime, she doesn't want Kenya to compete with Kilika5 fields, even the UAE backs Kenya position because they have large shares in those companies.

Once you see things from this premise, everything begins to make sense, why galmudug previously was staunchly Anti Ethiopia but today the most Pro Ethiopia state after South-West, why her best close buddies for decades that are S/land and P/land are today bitter enemies, it's all about interests here and geopolitics and our leaders are just pawns on the chess board, they can only choose the hand that moves them, not the directions they are steered.

But things have changed today, because there are many hands you can choose from instead of just the TPLF hand, from Turkey, Qatar, UAE and even Egypt, this is why your seeing this seismic shift right now since now we have options we previously didn't as the whole world ignored us.

it's all part of Allah's plans, I am enjoying her panics and deaths spirals, on Wednesday we are going to find out if our prayers have indeed been answered by the most high or not.

ur really opportunistic on the situation going on back home which is good, and so far all I've been seeing is HSM is finished and he's been exposed, i really like Farmaajo cause he seems to be reviving somai nationalism which is good, we can also settle for Sh. Sharif. If all goes well this Wednesday the whole country should be able to unite and divide and share all its resources, the potential of a new rich somalia is inevitable and the somali ppl see this opportunity.

 

[XamarCade]

If you apply this foundational knowledge in every Somali political discourse you will understand 90% of the Somali politics and never become an ignorant dupe serving the interests of others.




Your wrong here, the problem is they can't as you stated earlier and neither have they got the inkling desire to even make that change, it serves no purpose, interest or end goals

The Somali tribal warriors and dupes will vote on tribal lines regardless whether you give them a pint of milk or not, hence it's better to save the pint of milk instead in your own coffers.




This is pure interest power play nothing to do with clan, the creation of the J/land was a Kikuyu project which CC oversaw as a Kikuyu puppet, this is no good to HSM and his Ethiopian cohorts, you have to understand Kikuyu and Tigray are at war with each other competing for Chinese investments.

Your question falsely assumes that both CC/HSM are independent which is naive, Ethiopia silently backs Somalia in the dispute with Kenya over maritime, she doesn't want Kenya to compete with Kilika5 fields, even the UAE backs Kenya position because they have large shares in those companies.

Once you see things from this premise, everything begins to make sense, why galmudug previously was staunchly Anti Ethiopia but today the most Pro Ethiopia state after South-West, why her best close buddies for decades that are S/land and P/land are today bitter enemies, it's all about interests here and geopolitics and our leaders are just pawns on the chess board, they can only choose the hand that moves them, not the directions they are steered.

But things have changed today, because there are many hands you can choose from instead of just the TPLF hand, from Turkey, Qatar, UAE and even Egypt, this is why your seeing this seismic shift right now since now we have options we previously didn't as the whole world ignored us.

it's all part of Allah's plans, I am enjoying her panics and deaths spirals, on Wednesday we are going to find out if our prayers have indeed been answered by the most high or not.

Where would u start to start rebuilding back home? Do you think UAE, Turkey, Russia, USA is in our best interest? How should we deal with our neighbors kenya and Ethiopia? Wouldn't it be best to just leave the ogaden region to Ethiopia because if we ever tried to takeep it back we would look like the bad guys and the world will aid and come to save Ethiopia, we should just allow our fellow somalis in that ogaden region back into somalia. How would you disperse the resources among somalia? Btw don't you think the biggest payback to Kenya and Ethiopia is to become a rich peaceful leading nation in that region, I know it's hard to forgive our enemies but their biggest threat is to see Somalia's prosper and see us in Unity. Attacking them would be our biggest mistake, then that would be a ticket to get invaded by Western powers.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Where would u start to start rebuilding back home? Do you think UAE, Turkey, Russia, USA is in our best interest? How should we deal with our neighbors kenya and Ethiopia? Wouldn't it be best to just leave the ogaden region to Ethiopia because if we ever tried to takeep it back we would look like the bad guys and the world will aid and come to save Ethiopia.

Only idiots start fights, there is no need for it, everyone is going after their own individual interests, what you do is find the one whose interests aligns with yours best at this current time, so you can pick yourself up from the ruins and become a force to be reckoned with.

There is no better country currently then Turkey, in fact it's the closest to perfection you will get in this life in terms of interest alignment, Erdogan loves nothing more then reviving Ottomon dream and becoming a Sultan.

Somalia is nothing more then a pet project for that dream and influence with some commercial benefit, you milk it as much as you can, while staying friends with your neighbours, even if they antagonise you openly, you keep smiling like a hypocrite and return the favour through funding terror groups in her backyard.

I would not fund ONLF while I am weak, but focus on OLF and other Ethnic Ethiopian groups, I don't want Somali's to die, the same in Kenya, privately back the rival tribe while pretending to be friends with Kikuyu in ways can't be connected back to me, much like they do with al-shabab, sustained low intensity warfare in private.

I want to win without firing a single bullet even if we grow powerful, in regards to uniting Somali's which people believe is the hardest thing, is in fact the easiest of all, in this election alone 200 million will be wasted, similar bill in the last election as well. The GCC aid alone totals 300 million, S/land budget annually alone is like 250 million.

The Western aid stuff is all bogus hog wash, they don't pay anything, how much stuff can I build with just 1/4 of that money? plenty of roads, schools, hospitals and basic infrastructure in every region, it will easily win the hearts and mind of the people, they will all disobey their useless clan leaders for me.

I actually proposed this once to a particular idiot leader, he laughed and left, afterwards one of his close aid called me, and said, 'you don't understand these people, they are cursed by God, they are forbidden from doing everything that is good that will raise their position"

Lets take HSM for example, he spent almost 20 million just bribing useless clan elders for votes, while had he just built a single hospital in that same region which would cost him peanuts and announced it, that entire clan would have ignored their donkey odeey dhaqameed and supported him.

The resources part will come once those foundations and trust from the populace has been established, a perfect case study is someone like Farmaajo, he did nothing spectacular, just ensured soldiers were paid and Amisom kept moving to clear Xamar and those fat cats relocated to Xamar, something no PM before did, some soldiers even cried and fought gallantly to clear shabab from Xamar.

That's it! he didn't build a single road, hospital, shelter or even dug a single well, and look how the people all across love him for doing what he was supposed to do, what do you think would happen to someone that did the above on top of this? I fear he may get worshipped.

 

[XamarCade]

Only idiots start fights, there is no need for it, everyone is going after their own individual interests, what you do is find the one whose interests aligns with yours best at this current time, so you can pick yourself up from the ruins and become a force to be reckoned with.

There is no better country currently then Turkey, in fact it's the closest to perfection you will get in this life in terms of interest alignment, Erdogan loves nothing more then reviving Ottomon dream and becoming a Sultan.

Somalia is nothing more then a pet project for that dream and influence with some commercial benefit, you milk it as much as you can, while staying friends with your neighbours, even if they antagonise you openly, you keep smiling like a hypocrite and return the favour through funding terror groups in her backyard.

I would not fund ONLF while I am weak, but focus on OLF and other Ethnic Ethiopian groups, I don't want Somali's to die, the same in Kenya, privately back the rival tribe while pretending to be friends with Kikuyu in ways can't be connected back to me, much like they do with al-shabab, sustained low intensity warfare in private.

I want to win without firing a single bullet even if we grow powerful, in regards to uniting Somali's which people believe is the hardest thing, is in fact the easiest of all, in this election alone 200 million will be wasted, similar bill in the last election as well. The GCC aid alone totals 300 million, S/land budget annually alone is like 250 million.

The Western aid stuff is all bogus hog wash, they don't pay anything, how much stuff can I build with just 1/4 of that money? plenty of roads, schools, hospitals and basic infrastructure in every region, it will easily win the hearts and mind of the people, they will all disobey their useless clan leaders for me.

I actually proposed this once to a particular idiot leader, he laughed and left, afterwards one of his close aid called me, and said, 'you don't understand these people, they are cursed by God, they are forbidden from doing everything that is good that will raise their position"

Lets take HSM for example, he spent almost 20 million just bribing useless clan elders for votes, while had he just built a single hospital in that same region which would cost him peanuts and announced it, that entire clan would have ignored their donkey odeey dhaqameed and supported him.

The resources part will come once those foundations and trust from the populace has been established, a perfect case study is someone like Farmaajo, he did nothing spectacular, just ensured soldiers were paid and Amisom kept moving to clear Xamar and those fat cats relocated to Xamar, something no PM before did, some soldiers even cried and fought gallantly to clear shabab from Xamar.

That's it! he didn't build a single road, hospital, shelter or even dug a single well, and look how the people all across love him for doing what he was supposed to do, what do you think would happen to someone that did the above on top of this? I fear he may get worshipped.

Somalia the best option we have now is Sh. Sharif cause of his experience. Inshallah this Wednesday is a new beginning for Somalia.