Eugenicists are tempering with nature, who has a right to decide who mates with who. You sound like a slave owner in America during slavery, this concept was taken straight from the nazi who wanted to have the perfect aryan race.
Eugenics in Somalia
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You should look into transhumanism.
simulacrum
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Some of the children and the first generation Somalis in the west still thrive despite these disabilities (e.g malnutrition, uneducated parents and single household, poverty,psychological effects of civil war). We're quite resilient people. Can you imagine if these Somalis grew up in a better environment?obamadatazz@simulacrum
Ma waxad na leedahay Somali ha laga dhigo Lab rats ?Laa xaawla...How do we know yhe past 25 years hasn't been an experiment on the effects of wsr and malnutrition ? Waan ka shakiyay these shady UN and NGOs
The biggest problem with eugenics is the fact that you'll always be needing consent from people to work toward your end goals. Intelligent people in general lean towards atheism, antinatalism and consumerism. You will just end up with smart women that want to compete academically and career wise and NOT raise more than 1 child. Lol. Then there is the "dumb" crowd. Like 49% of people will be below average and they will experience it as restricitons/human right violation
foreign countries will come to aid to destabilize you for their own profits etc. etc. Also if the IQ of the horn really is ~60-70 you will need a few generations to raise the IQ to a level that would put them in a position to compete with already established nations (mainly east asians and europeans). Failure rates are high. Look up Population Planning in Singapore, one of the highest IQ nations in the world that did this in the 60's and kinda failed). If you really want eugenics to succeed you need to financially compensate 50% of the population. Have surrogate mothers or develop artificial wombs to raise intelligent kids and then hope the parents accept them and WANT to raise 4-7 of their own children.
@simulacrum You're right , Somalis are very versatile people and adapt well to changes. We went from being illiterate Camel herders to Pilots , Egineers ,Generals etc within a generation. I'm positive we can do that again. With a common goal and good leadership we could accomplish greatness.
Honestly speaking Eugenics is nonsense and not ethical at all. When it comes to Intelligence what really matters and determine it is environmental factors like culture and socialization( peer Group, Family,etc.)
Intelligence being linked to simply genes is an old racialist wives tale and just a continumum of Darwins Theory.
IQ doesnt measure your intelligence, the only thing it measures is your adaptability to modernity(technology). So if you come from a country that lacks alot of it, for instance poor regions in Africa. Then its no suprise if you score low. If that wasn't true the same populations inside and outside of low social-economic indication would at least score similar but they dont.
People should definetly watch Rageh Omars documentary as it does highlight this quite eloquently and breaks down all the myths
Intelligence being linked to simply genes is an old racialist wives tale and just a continumum of Darwins Theory.
IQ doesnt measure your intelligence, the only thing it measures is your adaptability to modernity(technology). So if you come from a country that lacks alot of it, for instance poor regions in Africa. Then its no suprise if you score low. If that wasn't true the same populations inside and outside of low social-economic indication would at least score similar but they dont.
People should definetly watch Rageh Omars documentary as it does highlight this quite eloquently and breaks down all the myths
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you're forgetting that this IQ is not genetic. it comes from learning. I have higher IQ than my parents because they didn't get my level of education. Eugenics based on IQ is absolutely wrong and doesn't make sense because IQ is not like diseases or height or looks or genetic things. You cannot inherit your parents intelligence
Why would one allow themselves to be spoon fed this drivel by their colonial masters who have been trying to oppress them cause Europeans Believed that the mind of non Europeans especially African were inferior, this is taken out straight of their textbook. The slave masters, the nazi's, most loons who dehumanise a person based on their iq. How can one talk so casually about whether another sovereign man or woman has a right to live, I say live & let live, Let Allah deal with the rest, oh I forget most of you don't believe in Allah, I'm referring to those who believe in eugenics, surely one can't have compassion for their fellow man yet still believe in this nazi inhumane drivel. What next? All fat people & dumb people should be exterminated?
You'll find me a formidable foe cause I'm fat & dumb, & proud.
You'll find me a formidable foe cause I'm fat & dumb, & proud.
IQ is a measurement of a particular populations adaptability to modernity(i.e Technology). if you come from a place that lacks ''Technology'' or ''Modernity'' then you will surely score lower.IQ test have been said to be invalid at measuring intelligence because it doesn't measure wisdom,social intelligence, creativity, several abilities. Rigid in technological and cultural biases. So IQ test overall have mostly been just written off by people as misleading.
One should focus on education, socialization and culture in the regards to Intelligent development of human beings.
Good Education + Good Socialization = Great intellect.
One should focus on education, socialization and culture in the regards to Intelligent development of human beings.
Good Education + Good Socialization = Great intellect.
its actually the dumb/fat people that do hurting AND as always claim to be victims. Some people would rather rol the dice ethernally and be forever lower class than admit they are inferior and at and disadvatage to their peers.
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How is it racist to point out diversity in intelligence WITHIN a somali population
we aknowledge the smart ones you guys. The best and fastest natural way for eugenics is natural disaster that puts emphesis on keeping your people alive and reorganise your surroundings to survive (aka ice age, wars, conquest of new territories etc.). If allah can do that to people why would he mind us giving it a hand
There's wisdom behind it that mere mortal such as us can't grasp nor comprehend.
its actually the dumb/fat people that do hurting AND as always claim to be victims. Some people would rather rol the dice ethernally and be forever lower class than admit they are inferior and at and disadvatage to their peers.
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How is it racist to point out diversity in intelligence WITHIN a somali population
Allah knows best. when I see a disabled person, or mentally impaired & I interact with them, it makes me appreciative of my creator and it makes me more empathetic towards my fellow man.
I wouldn't exactly call hitler fat & dumb, would you?
yeah we agree that IQ-score only is not the way to measure intelligence. It was never meant to be, just to weed out outliers at both ends (aka retards and einsteins). There are also different kinds of intelligence. But overall intelligence is a real thing and you can select for it (eductional systems do, jobs do, entertainment industries do, high end military positions do, sports squads do etc. etc.).
I would agree with you if you said
Genetic potentiall for intelligence + Good Education + Good Socialization --> Intelligence close to genetic potential
Not every person in nation or population is a retard. The size of the retard group depends on the AVERAGE IQ though. Especially if there is like a 10-20pt difference with other nations.
What do you mean by retard, these terms are very dangerous, it can easily be used to dehumanise a sovereign living breathing man/women which in turn could be used to justify their extermination.
imagine getting diabetes and pissing all the gatorade you had a few hrs ago straight into the urinal?
me going
thank god i aint you but i feel your pain ...
okays take care braddar and see you when your disease progresses like any diabetes case did before you and the patients eventually died. Nope muslims will be the first to make an appointment and take that gaal drug and extend their lives. Just like that you can weed out disease, low intelligence, uglyness etc. etc. with time and ACTUALLY studying and not saying allah doesnt want us to so we dont.yeah you're right i went overboard with that term. I mean people with lower intelligence/prospects in society. And no youre not going to kill them. Just prevent them from having 8 kids. If they just take 1 kid it will be allright, given the more succesfull people have more children. Their kids can marry the smart ones and their grandchildren will go up and with time you'll raise the intelligence of the group significantly. No one gets killed. JUST decrease the poor people kids over time. You'll need manual labor etc.
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I can assure you that you're talking to the wrong one.imagine getting diabetes and pissing all the gatorade you had a few hrs ago straight into the urinal?
me going
I don't eat GMO's strictly organic, I have a juicer, have my minerals & vitamins, drink plenty of water. Don't hardly drink fizzy drinks which contain many poisons chemicals, I eat healthy Alhamdulillah.
I don't believe in big pharmaceuticals, no placebo's for me bradar.
Besides big pharma only cares about the profits. God forbid if you get your hand broken & end up getting medicine for the pain, you'll find the side effects are more lethal than the problem you initially had, for example it probably will do damage to your kidneys, from their the cycle repeats & big pharma keep making their cheddar.
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In 25 to 50 years from now most of the autosomal genetic mutations for human intelligence will be known and can be ''inserted'' into individuals through gene therapy. Of course it will be very expensive but over time the price will fall.
That's a bit more humane than not allowing certain individuals to breed.
That's a bit more humane than not allowing certain individuals to breed.
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