almost perfectly described al shabaab
More like Soviet Union and Today's China
Ever wonder why Centralism works so well in India?
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More like Soviet Union and Today's China
This prof tends to make great points about qabil. We need more transparency.
almost perfectly described al shabaab
And besides Al-Shabaab aren't hardcore military-trained, socialist and on Scopolamine as well right?
What about the region of Kashmir?
Well, firstly Kashmir is not even culturally like most of the other regions/states of India. The people are more related to Pakistan in terms of both culture, ethnic origins, and religion. Despite that, it is only an opportunistic political elite that seems to be stirring trouble. They are not anywhere near secession nor are the majority of the people who live in the region calling for it.
Actually, they don't. Once again, there is no credible movement in the entire country that is pushing for the secession of their respective region. One or two political trolls doesn't change that reality in any fundamental way. The overwhelming majority of the people support the central ruling government and the status quo.
No, I am not talking about the impossible and insurmountable task for uniting the very different, distinct, and diverse peoples that live in the Somali peninsula. I don't know how you got that from my post.
Just because the ones here come across as passive doesn't mean the ones back home are. This couldn't be any further from the truth. I'm sure if you were to create a central government that rules over all of India and China, the Indians would be among the first to revolt. There seems to be a balance in terms of cultural and ethnic cohesion that India has achieved very well and the Somali republic will never achieve. The fact that Somalia has demonstrated an incapability of achieving this cohesion should call into question the so-called ethnic homogeneity of "Somalis".
In the same regard that Canada has federal institutions and a federal government, but despite that has a very powerful central government that wields unquestioned authority over all of its federal states. The federalism in India and Canada is not anywhere near comparable to the federalism in Somalia, which is basically en-route to balkanization and fragmentation (which is something I support, btw).
One example of a small isolated incident does not prove anything whatsoever. India has been hailed as one of the most stable governments in the third world by many academics, and there's no reason to think the government is threatened by any sort of internal struggle other than one or two political opportunists that exist in all countries.
Can you bring evidence that a decentralized unitary system of governance has ever ruled over the entire Somali peninsula in the history of the region? Since, by your own words:
Face it. The only type of system that has ever been tried and works in the Somali peninsula are Qabil states. Any other system of governance would be imposing "foreign laws and beliefs" down "Somalis' throats" as you so eloquently put. So you have no choice but to unconditionally support qabil states and the current federalism since that has been the only traditional style of governance in the Somali peninsula.
Wiki separtists movements in India. I can't baby you, if you've followed the news about India you would know that Sikhs are kicking up a fuss and there is currently lots of separtist sentiments.
Or maybe, just maybe, we aren't really the same people? Why does centralism work so well for all other societies with a high degree of ethnic homogeneity, except for the "Somali" people? Wouldn't that suggest the underlying assumption of ethnic homogeneity is incredibly flawed?
Again, citing tiny movements headed by opportunists with no credibility whatsoever in the eyes' of the public doesn't help your argument. It's not unlike citing the existence of bloc quebecois, which actually carries much more credibility with the Canadian public, and using that as evidence that balkanization and secession are very serious threats to need to be addressed by the Canadian political landscape.
Point of the whole thread is he wants us to consider this:
And This:
to be as somali as us. even though they both probably don't identify as such, there is a reer xamar on this site, and he makes a clear distinction between himself and the rest of us.
i can only imagine darod_supremacy being a mix of the two.
And This:
to be as somali as us. even though they both probably don't identify as such, there is a reer xamar on this site, and he makes a clear distinction between himself and the rest of us.
i can only imagine darod_supremacy being a mix of the two.
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