I don't disagree with that story but still if most of your population is outside the DDS area of control why need that many seats my advice just stick to Oromia.This is so tiresome I swear
1) Show me where we joined Oromia willingly. I will wait. If you can’t support your statement with evidence then just know you are bullshitting.
2) As for Afaan Oromo, Oromo tribes like Alla, Itu, Nole, Baabili, Jaarso etc were living in east hararge since the 1550s defeat of the battle of Hazalo. It wasn’t till Menelik’s invasion and annexation of Harar and the surrounding regions in the late 19th century (with European firepower) when many of my clansmen adopted Afaan Oromo to escape complete annihilation. During the struggles with Menelik, Karanle & Hawiye suffered tremendously. Abyssinia were maniacal in their hate and would kill any Somali they come across including children, women & the elderly. It was decided that children women & livestock of Hawiye will be moved further east to live among Somali clans of Ogaden- Malinguur, Geri etc while the men of fighting age remained to continue fighting Menelik. However Somali clans listed above launched a devastating attack on Karanle & Hawiye women & children. Livestock was confiscated and many were killed during those attacks. It was then that the ugaas of Karanle named Adan Karkore called a meet of all Hawiye clans at top of Mount Muli. He ordered them to speak Oromo to avoid being targeted by both Menelik and other Somali clans who were waiting for the downfall of the long time Karanle Hawiye rulers. The unintended consequence was the assimilation of a lot of the Hawiye with some deep in Oromia completely becoming Oromazied. Nonetheless these people still know who they are lineage wise. The 1800s was brutal for my tribe. The Karanle leaders focused on resurgent Abyssinia by necessity over looked peaceful but insidious migratory expansionist Oromos because they saw it the lesser of the two evils. The elders considered the Oromos who became Muslims less threatening than the Christian highlanders putting aside our Somali nationalism that was both wise and unavoidable.
Having said this, there are other members of my tribe that migrated deep into Oromia for business reasons or to spread Islam.
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Mostly Gugundhabe and Karanle but other Hawiye’s are represented aswell. We even have federal positions. This guy is Gidir Karanle. There are a lot of Hawiye in Oromia holding positions aswell
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Deputy Director-General of Africa Department at Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jamaludin Mustafa, and the British Ambassador to Ethiopia next to each other.
He was the Ethiopian ambassador in Somalia during Farmaajo’s tenure.
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@Chaseyourdreamzz This guy is Xaskul Hawiye talking to Abiy Ahmed
Faysal Ali waraabe talks about DDS representation
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I think I understand now, you are looking to take his qoondo
So harti put together has 8 and Geri 6???? This doesn’t look right
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We live on both sides of the border 50/50 split so we eat on both sides. By your logic tribes that live in both Somalia and DDS should pick between DDS or Somalia? You see how messed up that way of thinking is? Our nomads literally graze on the outskirts of Jigjiga (the regional capital) known as Banka Jigjiga with our brothers Qudub. Besides not all Hawiye are Karanle in DDS. You should know this if engaging in this topic .
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Yeah that’s surprising I think this might be based on districts not populationSo harti put together has 8 and Geri 6???? This doesn’t look right
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The whole system in galbeed is messed up and it’s the reason why galbeed is still going through gumeeysi. My friend went to Jigjiga to buy furniture and decided to take it back home across the border in K4 but was not allowed to cross the border. He was left with no choice but to do his shopping in Harar as there is no restriction placed on you if you are entering Oromia from Harar or any other region for that matter. It’s only K5 that gets to suffer like that. He also travelled from Faafan all the way to Iimey and was shocked how far behind the region is in terms of development compared to other regions.So harti put together has 8 and Geri 6???? This doesn’t look right
Somalis have zero concept of nationalism.
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doesn’t the restrictions stop other ethnics moving into somali region
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There is restriction with items. This is done purposely to hinder economic growth.
The only stakeholders in SR after Absame are Ciise and Garre. They not only have a gobol each but also are allowed to be more armed then others.
The good thing about that is that these three are the only clans willing to shoulder check the other ethnicities. In this very thread you display how when things get tough for you, you play on team Oromo.
Your anger at the Oromos settling Eastern Hararghe is directed at the Ogaden/‘Darood’ first and the Oromos never.
This was in place during the TPLF-ONLF conflict to avoid taxation checkpoints in SR funding the ONLF.
Its also why Somali region didnt have very many roads interlinked and why the federal admin avoided any investment in the region. Your story of it happening now because Hawiyes were consumed by their Oromo neighbors 20 years ago is ridiculous. Oromos werent welcomed by Absame nor was the referendum held by Jigjiga so why you are so eager to inject us at every chance into your sob story I dont know.
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Oromo Oromo Oromo Oromo Oromo is all you got lol. Alhamdulilah my people are free from gumeeysi. We would have been Christian by now if we were as submissive and jaajuus like as you lot. Watch till the end you will know what I mean. We can not be the same. You are literally being enslaved as we speak
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Mieso town and Baabili town both belonged to Oromo by default. The latter is literally the name of an Afran Qallo tribe. Brother Takis even educated you about this but you purposely ignored it so you can continue lying. Accept being a jaajuus under gumeeysi you langaab.
Post in thread 'ONLF Chairman: We will never compromise on our homeland,history,honor and Somali identity.'
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...honor-and-somali-identity.172165/post-4178000
This is so tiresome I swear
1) Show me where we joined Oromia willingly. I will wait. If you can’t support your statement with evidence then just know you are bullshitting.
Source: https://www.eth.mpg.de/3709560/consultancy_report_may_2006.pdf
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you think Darod should have 20% of the seats of the DDS parliament?
hawiye and daarood are equal in DDS i guess lol
Yes this is simply what I was saying but karanle wanting to play semantics.
Eastern Hararghe has an Oromo head and is part of Oromia. Your people speak Afaan Oromo and your children are forced to learn that in school.Oromo Oromo Oromo Oromo Oromo is all you got lol. Alhamdulilah my people are free from gumeeysi. We would have been Christian by now if we were as submissive and jaajuus as you lot. Watch till the end you will know what I mean. We can not be the same. You are literally being enslaved as we speak
Baabili and Mieso is free but Somali Region is under Gumeysi is what your trying to convince me of this cuck wont even speak ill of his aggressors
I posted receipts he didnt. Even in his own post he admits to Karanles affinity to Oromos being the cause of ‘being discriminated against’
I already showed you before what a laandheere clan looks like when its serious and im not even showing you my own clan to do it…
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Oromo claim over half the territory including Babile town, in the 90s before the regions were defined Babile Town had many political parties setting up office including OPDO, UPD and ESDL, this area was historically peaceful between the two ethniticies during the Derg and Selassie but since the 90s the conflict still exist but it is a frozen conflict that can erupt any time, the referendum was preceeded by a PM appointed committee that determined what kebeles and towns are to be delineated which led to the referendum that was again conducted questionably and never accepted
@MalcolmFitzhugh08 Read the last line of the first paragraph here "there has been continuous complaints about how the referendum was conducted and administered"
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If anything we are larger than Darood in K5 let alone Ethiopia as a whole.
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How did baabile become part of Somali region of Ethiopia in early 1990s? Ofc by referendum that resulted in baabile joining kelil 5. When baabile participated in Ethiopia’s Somali region’ elections it produced 19 members of parliament. That is why an Ogadeni couldn’t become a president. This stunned ONLF, Darood & even Dir Clans. That was first and last attempt at a fair election. Then Abdi iley & TPLF organized another referendum with predetermined outcome with almost Zero participation from Karanle. Why did Karanle & other Hawiye Clans fight with Oromo between 2016 to 2020 driving them out baabile & Harar if they loved them so much?
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My Garre brothers are soldiers. Unlike your jaajuus tribe lol. Here is Washington post from 89 you snitching on your fellow darood (majerteen) for powerEastern Hararghe has an Oromo head and is part of Oromia. Your people speak Afaan Oromo and your children are forced to learn that in school.
Baabili and Mieso is free but Somali Region is under Gumeysi is what your trying to convince me of this cuck wont even speak ill of his aggressors
I posted receipts he didnt. Even in his own post he admits to Karanles affinity to Oromos being the cause of ‘being discriminated against’
I already showed you before what a laandheere clan looks like when its serious and im not even showing you my own clan to do it…
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