FBA vs Ethiopian woman

Kisame

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We get along well all over North America really especially the youth hangout a lot I’ve never felt any tension with them I know a lot of them and grew up with many @Keep it a boqol can confirm community relations are very chill
@Taintedlove

Your avg Somali teenager isn't some Somali supremacist that hates all Ethiopians.
It shows Somali should have taken a back seat with the Floyd campaign because look @ all those hateful comments saying Somalis did not protest.

Somalis would have showed up to the protests regardless. Most of us grew up low income and live along side African Americans. Our street niggas deal with the same BS most madow street niggas deal with.
 
She is not wrong, Somali youth turned out in high numbers to participate in the protest. I remember it and the funny part about is that there was even black leaders saying at the time ''You are our greatest ally''

To me the whole ordeal was embarrassing to be participants in because all they did really was damage Somali businesses.

You saw something similar happen in Kenya and Britain. I really cannot comprehend it , how is destroying the local economy and businesses of regular people supposed to be a front to power?

I have seen a lot of Somali protests and demonstrations by the public(not foreign organized/funded militias) it never results in us destroying businesses.

Even the whole boycott this and that makes no sense. Are you going to boycott food? Then what are you going to eat? You boycott electricity also?

So if they decided to stop shopping at Walmart, who suffers more Walmart (which supplies all of America), or African Americans that own no stores that supply them with their basic needs. So it is not really power at all. Its like the sign of confused people without power or any real agency.

Why not just spend your money with your race or your own communities? and start your own retail stores. Simple, you don't have to boycott or destroy anything.
 

Kisame

Plotting world domination
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She is not wrong, Somali youth turned out in high numbers to participate in the protest. I remember it and the funny part about is that there was even black leaders saying at the time ''You are our greatest ally''

To me the whole ordeal was embarrassing to be participants in because all they did really was damage Somali businesses.

You saw something similar happen in Kenya and Britain. I really cannot comprehend it , how is destroying the local economy and businesses of regular people supposed to be a front to power?

I have seen a lot of Somali protests and demonstrations by the public(not foreign organized/funded militias) it never results in us destroying businesses.

Even the whole boycott this and that makes no sense. Are you going to boycott food? Then what are you going to eat? You boycott electricity also?

So if they decided to stop shopping at Walmart, who suffers more Walmart (which supplies all of America), or African Americans that own no stores that supply them with their basic needs. So it is not really power at all. Its like the sign of confused people without power or any real agency.

Why not just spend your money with your race or your own communities? and start your own retail stores. Simple, you don't have to boycott or destroy anything.

How many Somali businesses actually got destroyed during the George Floyd campaign??

I'm curious now because I've seen this take brought up numerous times.
 
How many Somali businesses actually got destroyed during the George Floyd campaign??

I'm curious now because I've seen this take brought up numerous times.

Not sure about the exact number, most of the businesses were probably Somali because it was the street with Somali businesses that was hit the hardest


This shows photos of the type of damages.
 
I don't know how it is in the UK, but the impression I get from some parts of the US like where I am is that the two groups do very much associate with one another. Every majorly Somali settled neighborhood here in Boston like Alewife or Roxbury seems to also be an Ethiopian and Eritrean hotspot and the communities seem cordial toward one another.

Was in a Somali oday's halal meat shop a while back and I remember a Xabashi woman coming and talking to him for a good while, catching up like they'd known each other for years before she began placing her order. I've not gone over to Minnesota yet but I've heard Oromos in particular settle quite close to Somalis and even vote for Ilhan? This woman is pretty much coming at it with that kind of perspective, as far as I can see. There isn't really all that much or any animosity between the two communities in the diaspora. As far as I've seen, anyway.

Hamdullilah I’m not from UK, I’m canadian. Here in Canada these niggas are consistently hanging off our nuts, wherever you find Somalis you’d find them. In Calgary they have more of them than Somalis, but like easily 10x.
 

Mutombo

Congolese/Somali
I don't know how it is in the UK, but the impression I get from some parts of the US like where I am is that the two groups do very much associate with one another. Every majorly Somali settled neighborhood here in Boston like Alewife or Roxbury seems to also be an Ethiopian and Eritrean hotspot and the communities seem cordial toward one another.

Was in a Somali oday's halal meat shop a while back and I remember a Xabashi woman coming and talking to him for a good while, catching up like they'd known each other for years before she began placing her order. I've not gone over to Minnesota yet but I've heard Oromos in particular settle quite close to Somalis and even vote for Ilhan? This woman is pretty much coming at it with that kind of perspective, as far as I can see. There isn't really all that much or any animosity between the two communities in the diaspora. As far as I've seen, anyway.
I live in the Seattle area and the Horner communities are so intertwined with one another anything community/social services related we are put down as one category. Only time we get separated is when we have our own qabil functions.
 
Not sure about the exact number, most of the businesses were probably Somali because it was the street with Somali businesses that was hit the hardest


This shows photos of the type of damages.
I find it rather odd how a Somali resturaunt get fire bombed by madows. instead of dealing there frustration with the people who harmed there community, but they come after the people with the least to do with the issue but rather feeding the community as awhole. This why I always advocate that Horners should be there own people or Somalis just deal with Arabs and other minorities .
 
Whenever Ethiopians try to worm themselves into anything relating to Black conversations, they have to drag Somalis into it.

Every time.

Saw a clip recently of a group of Ethiopians being interviewed by a AA guy and when asked about whether they identify as Black, they flipped it to Somalis instead of answering the question.

If it’s something positive, they claim to be right there with us. If it’s anything negative, they throw us under the bus.
Here is another Ethiopian using our name to get views, in this video she says that they are 150k Somalis in Rwanda which is wrong I’ve been there like 3 times and we don’t even crack 5k
 
I don't know how it is in the UK, but the impression I get from some parts of the US like where I am is that the two groups do very much associate with one another. Every majorly Somali settled neighborhood here in Boston like Alewife or Roxbury seems to also be an Ethiopian and Eritrean hotspot and the communities seem cordial toward one another.

Was in a Somali oday's halal meat shop a while back and I remember a Xabashi woman coming and talking to him for a good while, catching up like they'd known each other for years before she began placing her order. I've not gone over to Minnesota yet but I've heard Oromos in particular settle quite close to Somalis and even vote for Ilhan? This woman is pretty much coming at it with that kind of perspective, as far as I can see. There isn't really all that much or any animosity between the two communities in the diaspora. As far as I've seen, anyway.
I can see your point we do get along irl but they are quick to stab us in the back or they push all negativity towards us
 

Taintedlove

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@Taintedlove

Your avg Somali teenager isn't some Somali supremacist that hates all Ethiopians.


Somalis would have showed up to the protests regardless. Most of us grew up low income and live along side African Americans. Our street niggas deal with the same BS most madow street niggas deal with.
Ik. I never actually knew that somalia itself had beef with ethiopia until recently. I had a lot of ethiopian friends at primary school.
 
I can see your point we do get along irl but they are quick to stab us in the back or they push all negativity towards us
Exactly

They’re kind and nice in person and often anchor onto Somali communities in the diaspora but are waging a misinformation war against us on so many fronts.

Too many of our people are fooled by their so called niceness which is too often a facade.
 
Ik. I never actually knew that somalia itself had beef with ethiopia until recently. I had a lot of ethiopian friends at primary school.
The beef is mostly a thing back home or for people too online. In reality most somalis and ethiopians get along in america and both Somalis and ethiopians have friends from the other group.
 
this is the case for most somalis tbh, many don’t know much about horn of africa politics weirdly enough.
I think it’s a generational thing. Because millennials and up know about it. And if you’re not from Galbeed or regions where Ethiopia has directly affected your people you wouldn’t know. Though growing up I was never close with like Ethiopians it was mainly a religious divide. They were Coptic Christian and we were Muslim.
 
The beef is mostly a thing back home or for people too online. In reality most somalis and ethiopians get along in america and both Somalis and ethiopians have friends from the other group.
It is not necessarily about beef. Somalis, generally speaking, are open with their feelings and operate in a binary world. Other communities are often better @ not discussing ethnic politics openly or hiding their feelings.


Ethiopians have become more open with their hostility towards each other since the Tigray, Amhara wars, etc. if you are skilled @ getting people out of their comfort zone by playing naive, you would be surprised how the average gaalo Amhara is taught Somalia should be an extension of Ethiopia or was once part of it. Many of them would support ethnic genocide against Somalis, not only in the so-called Somali region, but also deep inside Somalia proper.

Sadly, some Muslim Ethiopian such as Oromos/Afar are adopting this hostile attitude towards Somalis. Watch out for the ones (on this forum) who act like we are brothers yet make those passive aggressive digs about Somalia being “war torn” compared to Ethiopia. These same Oromo Muslims use to try ally with Somalis under the banner of “Cush” when they were weaker.

Ethiopians also like pivot of Somalis when it comes to business. Somalis tend to spend a lot of money in other communities business than they do with us.
 
I find it rather odd how a Somali resturaunt get fire bombed by madows. instead of dealing there frustration with the people who harmed there community, but they come after the people with the least to do with the issue but rather feeding the community as awhole. This why I always advocate that Horners should be there own people or Somalis just deal with Arabs and other minorities .

You saw what happened in the London or the Kenya riots. Powerless people believe damaging businesses gives them power, they are powerless hooligans in reality.

When people feel powerless, they often direct their anger at accessible targets, rather than at the true sources of their frustrations.

Somali businesses, being visible, successful, and self-sufficient, unintentionally become a symbol of what others lack ---> leading to resentment.

Instead of confronting institutional failures, systemic issues, or their own economic challenges, some people lash out at those they perceive as thriving

But the boycott angle is most of the time is only Black & certain Africans that deal in it, they don't spend money in their community which will create true empowerment (low economic circulation money leaves their hands quickly instead of staying within the community) but they get mad when others spend money within their own community and set up small businesses near where they live and think they can harm them by boycotting.

They hate themselves a lot so when they see Somalis who are Black Africans , that don't come from wealth and being able to do this it hurts them a lot.

Because Black Americans & Africans feel less threatened by Asians, Arabs, Indians, or Whites because they’ve internalized the idea that these groups are "supposed" to be wealthier

Seeing Somalis who share a racial background succeed independently challenges their worldview.

This success exposes the failure of others to organize economically, leading to misplaced frustration.

So it is inferiority complex projections. What's ironic is that Somalis actually deal with them as equal opportunity partners, more than those other demographics, so we don't come to exploit them. We uplift them and hire them even.
 
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