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If that picture shows HSM as a puppet then so does these show Erdogan as being the puppet of HSM
 
Aideed was an accomplished officer who did his training before Barre came to power, how's that relevant?



Nobody knew "Mama Khadija"? :comeon:
I could go on about corruption all over Somalia but you need to relax with the HAG cartel paranoia



Well I got bad news for you honey, that puppet is staying put for another 4 years :drakelaugh:

He would not stay for 4 years
 
Nice try but it is not the same, Gabre does not have an official position. He is just spy. You nice guy @Discontinous actually I feel sorry for you that you are defending this pimp.
:faysalwtf:If the man doesn't have an official position why is/was he the Supreme Commander of Ethiopian Forces in Somalia? You've called him a general yourself. Stop your bs.


The man you so dearly defend and hold holy publicly tried to meet with the Leader of Ethiopia and Kenya to strengthen relationships and reassure them he would leave their land alone.

You don't even know what you want. Shut up please
 
:faysalwtf:If the man doesn't have an official position why is/was he the Supreme Commander of Ethiopian Forces in Somalia? You've called him a general yourself. Stop your bs.


The man you so dearly defend and hold holy publicly tried to meet with the Leader of Ethiopia and Kenya to strengthen relationships and reassure them he would leave their land alone.

You don't even know what you want. Shut up please

Barre made them peed in their pants (Kenya and Ethiopia ) he had to assure them daily that he would not invade them. Somalia power and dignity were buried with barre. Hope we can get strong leader again not puppet.
 
Barre made them peed in their pants (Kenya and Ethiopia ) he had to assure them daily that he would not invade them. Somalia power and dignity were buried with barre. Hope we can get strong leader again not puppet.
Ethiopia peed themselves so hard they won the war :comeon:


http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/30/world/somalia-calls-for-talks-with-ethiopia.html
Sure sounds like he was reassuring them and not asking for reassurance from them :browtf:

Somalias dignity was buried with Barre that's true. Went from a nation where all Somali regions wanted to unite to one shattered by qabiil, divided by village, city, state and national lines.

K5, NFD, Somaliland, Puntland, South Somalia and Galmudug now pretty much want as little to do with each other as possible when in 1960 they all wanted a Somaliweyn. Dignity truly dead
 
Ethiopia peed themselves so hard they won the war :comeon:


http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/30/world/somalia-calls-for-talks-with-ethiopia.html
Sure sounds like he was reassuring them and not asking for reassurance from them :browtf:

Somalias dignity was buried with Barre that's true. Went from a nation where all Somali regions wanted to unite to one shattered by qabiil, divided by village, city, state and national lines.

K5, NFD, Somaliland, Puntland, South Somalia and Galmudug now pretty much want as little to do with each other as possible when in 1960 they all wanted a Somaliweyn. Dignity truly dead


Ethiopia can not fight a war alone, they had tocry for help from SOviet Union and states. The only time they fought alone they failed in front of Eritrea
 

Prince of Lasanod

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Somalias dignity was buried with Barre that's true. Went from a nation where all Somali regions wanted to unite to one shattered by qabiil, divided by village, city, state and national lines.
I hate when people exaggerate and make Barre look like some sort of saint. Yes he done good but a lot of bad as well. And that bad includes contributing towards putting us in the situation we are currently in. We didn't need to go war, and he was offered a concession by Russia for almost all of Somali galbeed but he refused. Now what exactly do we have?
 

Galaeri

USC | Ururka Bililiqada iyo Kufsiga
I hate when people exaggerate and make Barre look like some sort of saint. Yes he done good but a lot of bad as well. And that bad includes contributing towards putting us in the situation we are currently in. We didn't need to go war, and he was offered a concession by Russia for almost all of Somali galbeed but he refused. Now what exactly do we have?

Nobody is saying his is saint. People are saying he didn't destroy the nation. Big difference.

We did need to go to war. The problem was the timing and the lack of foreign support. After Ethiopia lost the West spent incredible resources on then and started constructed their army from scratch. That shouldn't have happened. If the war happened in 91 after the Soviet union collapsed and Ethiopia went through civil we would have fared better.

What concession???????

He didn't put us in this situation. We chose this by fighting with each other instead of talking. There was justification for Somali tribes to fight. Clan tensions is not a valid reason for bloodshed. Only savages think like that. Do not look for any other justification for what occurred after 91.
 
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