Gaalo Infiltrationists using camel milk to spread Christian Evangelism into the Somali community

[Riftvalley]

I was talking about what i replied with: This is what i said when i replied to you before, as you were eluding to this forum being '' a good sample pool'' to show people becoming atheist :


You lack reading comprehension and are very emotionally unstable.

Nonsense. If there are 20-30 atheists on here and none of them became Christian, in science we can still use that as a sample pool. When you add to that Reddit, TikTok and Twitter, easy to conclude: most Somali who leave Islam become agnostic and atheist. And I know some brothers in Dawah who would concur with observing the same phenomena. In fact, you could say that most Muslim communities are observing the same phenomena; that is, atheism, and not Christianity represent more of a challenge to Islam in the western world.

There was nothing controversial about what I wrote nor was there any correction to be made, and you didn’t have to come out to attack me like salahudeen to save the Somali ummah of from me, the gaal agent seeking to subvert the community, as per your own words.

As for emotion, you’ve literally called me a gaal and some kind of agent working against Somalis. I like to be direct with folks, not emotional. If you show respect, aren’t disingenuous whilst pretending to be civil, I shall also respect you in kind.

You don’t get to call me a gaal working against Somali interests, then it is all fun and games. I am calling you out because your behaviour was disrespectful on this thread and uncalled for.

 

[Rayaale]

Somalis dont need white men to do it. There are hundreds or even thousands of Somali Christians in Canada. Churches bring them here by the plane load.

Total population of all Somalis is not even 100k how come thousands of them are Christians,any proof for this

 

[Rayaale]

Never seen or even heard of such a thing because it does not exist. And you know how the Somali community is, word spreads fast.

It does not exist not just in Canada, but anywhere in the world.

He is lying and if you search his post history has been lying about this for years and has never been able to produce any evidence. Now he claims he is going to record a conversation as if that means anything. Show us video evidence of hundred or thousands of christians. Actually, even 10.

10 is even a lot let him bring even 5

 

[Sol]

If all it takes to convert you is some caano geel then perhaps you were doomed from the start

 

[OPIUM KHAT]

If all it takes to convert you is some caano geel then perhaps you were doomed from the start

no they're targeting somali kids by making soccer teams and making these events to groom them into christianity

 

[Midas]

Abdicowboy doesn't have much to do with these secret christans like 90% of his content was just commenting on somali politics. It's likely people just didn't like his political opinion and dug up some stuff to make him look bad. He of course has since went on lives with a bunch of people and even made tawba.

 

[Kalsoon]

Abdicowboy doesn't have much to do with these secret christans like 90% of his content was just commenting on somali politics. It's likely people just didn't like his political opinion and dug up some stuff to make him look bad. He of course has since went on lives with a bunch of people and even made tawba.

You didn't see him on video talking with people at paid events or read the excerpts from his book? Even the zoom video with the two women? Anyone who still supports this guy even after all the evidence is being willfully ignorant. Are you possibly the same qabil as him ?

It's not called digging up stuff. It was public info that us viewers weren't privy to. It's important to be able to verify who someone is before taking info from them. The videos made about him (using his words against him) show how he shows one face to the Somali community and another to the people he wishes to be accepted by.

 

[Idilinaa]

Nonsense. If there are 20-30 atheists on here and none of them became Christian, in science we can still use that as a sample pool. When you add to that Reddit, TikTok and Twitter, easy to conclude: most Somali who leave Islam become agnostic and atheist. And I know some brothers in Dawah who would concur with observing the same phenomena. In fact, you could say that most Muslim communities are observing the same phenomena; that is, atheism, and not Christianity represent more of a challenge to Islam in the western world.

There was nothing controversial about what I wrote nor was there any correction to be made, and you didn’t have to come out to attack me like salahudeen to save the Somali ummah of from me, the gaal agent seeking to subvert the community, as per your own words.

You sound awfully invested in the existence of Somali Atheists , i wonder why.

As for emotion, you’ve literally called me a gaal and some kind of agent working against Somalis. I like to be direct with folks, not emotional. If you show respect, aren’t disingenuous whilst pretending to be civil, I shall also respect you in kind.


You don’t get to call me a gaal working against Somali interests, then it is all fun and games. I am calling you out because your behaviour was disrespectful on this thread and uncalled for.

Quote me where i actually said this. Instead of me calling you these things, it's as if you are making confessions out of guilt or something. I don't know you tell me

 

[Dooyo]

If all it takes to convert you is some caano geel then perhaps you were doomed from the start

The caano geel is the carrot for the horse. The Trojan horse these missionaries use to infiltrate Muslim communities.

 

[Idilinaa]

Abdicowboy doesn't have much to do with these secret christans like 90% of his content was just commenting on somali politics. It's likely people just didn't like his political opinion and dug up some stuff to make him look bad. He of course has since went on lives with a bunch of people and even made tawba.

Thats the odd part, i looked through his tiktok page and i didn't see him mention christianity or religion on his tiktok or camel culture. All he does is comment on Somali politics. Perhaps i just jumped the gun on assuming since there are old videos where he professes christianity, denounces Islam and insults his own mom on stage full cadaans, so i thought he might be connected to this.

If he reverted and changed, Alhamdullilah.

 

[Galool]

Abdicowboy doesn't have much to do with these secret christans like 90% of his content was just commenting on somali politics. It's likely people just didn't like his political opinion and dug up some stuff to make him look bad. He of course has since went on lives with a bunch of people and even made tawba.

Thats the odd part, i looked through his tiktok page and i didn't see him mention christianity or religion on his tiktok or camel culture. All he does is comment on Somali politics. Perhaps i just jumped the gun on assuming since there are old videos where he professes christianity, denounces Islam and insults his own mom on stage full cadaans, so i thought he might be connected to this.

If he reverted and changed, Alhamdullilah.

He is known for nationalism on Somali social media but his past was dug up and it is damning.

He has said and done things that are attacks on Islam, Muslims, and Somalis. He seemed to be profiting from the anti-Islam NGO industry and I guess missionaries, talking like a court jester in crowds about backwards Muslims and Somalis and how much he loves America.

Now that camel culture is being exposed and he seemed to have some sort of relationship with the missionary owner it will be worse for him.

Regardless of why it was dug up, it is real. And he has recently come out and made public tawbah and taken his Shahada and said he made mistakes in the past. Therefore he is a Muslim and we should not fault him for what he has made tawbah on.

That does not mean Somalis should not be wary, nor should someone with such a past be taken as any authority or listened to. So the attacks should stop but no need to follow him. He is trying to rehabilitate his reputation back to what it was before all this dirt was dug up but that wont fix it.

 

[Galool]

@Riftvalley you are definitely over reacting, it would suffice to just explain without all the hostility. People do become wary to larpers on here as they do exist and have been caught out before.

 

[Riftvalley]

You sound awfully invested in the existence of Somali Atheists , i wonder why.



Quote me where i actually said this. Instead of me calling you these things, it's as if you are making confessions out of guilt or something. I don't know you tell me

Easy.

Exhibit one: “you sound awfully invested in the existence of Somali atheists”.
(Under handed comment meant to somehow imply I have an obsession with Atheism. Err, I had to expand on what I meant in my first post because you were too dumb and dense to accept my simple explanation of what I meant. You doubled down on your misquote and lies even though folks like Kisame responded to my post and he did not take my post to mean Somalispot was full of posts, which is the lie you concocted and still haven’t apologised for despite my corrections).


Exhibit 2: “I wonder why”. ( yet another comment indirectly casting doubt on my faith in Islam by insinuating I have an unhealthy interest in promoting Somali atheists).

Exhibit 3: “Is this a self confession? It would explain your genocidal attitude and cynicism towards Somalis”.

Your first very post to me in this thread when you misquoted me and then proceeded to cast doubt on my faith by implying I was confessing to be an atheist and then you went on to insinuate my atheism would perhaps.

It is there in black and white.

 

[Idilinaa]

Easy.

Exhibit one: “you sound awfully invested in the existence of Somali atheists”.
(Under handed comment meant to somehow imply I have an obsession with Atheism. Err, I had to expand on what I meant in my first post because you were too dumb and dense to accept my simple explanation of what I meant. You doubled down on your misquote and lies even though folks like Kisame responded to my post and he did not take my post to mean Somalispot was full of posts, which is the lie you concocted and still haven’t apologised for despite my corrections).


Exhibit 2: “I wonder why”. ( yet another comment indirectly casting doubt on my faith in Islam by insinuating I have an unhealthy interest in promoting Somali atheists).

Exhibit 3: “Is this a self confession? It would explain your genocidal attitude and cynicism towards Somalis”.

Your first very post to me in this thread when you misquoted me and then proceeded to cast doubt on my faith by implying I was confessing to be an atheist and then you went on to insinuate my atheism would perhaps.

It is there in black and white.

Yet not a single one is me doing takfir or calling you gaalo outright or an agent against Somalis. It's just you overreacting and acting hyper emotional

If you are not an Atheist, just relax and pay it no mind. You don't have to foam around your mouth and start ranting with walls of text and hurling insults left & right. It's not a good look.

 

[Riftvalley]

@Riftvalley you are definitely over reacting, it would suffice to just explain without all the hostility. People do become wary to larpers on here as they do exist and have been caught out before.

I am not responsible for whatever conspiracy theories, shadows and ghosts people see in threads. And the burden shouldn’t fall on me to explain my every comment to people who have habit of looking for things which aren’t there in my comments. I will not have any person coming @ me, twisting my comments and then taking out of the fold of Islam and somalinimo to satisfy their ego. She needs to behave herself and be respectful.

 

[Riftvalley]

Yet not a single one is me doing takfir or calling you gaalo outright or an agent against Somalis. It's just you overreacting and acting hyper emotional

If you are not an Atheist, just relax and pay it no mind. You don't have foam around your mouth and start ranting with walls of text and hurling insults left & right. It's not a good look.

So if someone makes a post on Somali gays and I respond with “ you have an obsession with Somali gays, I wonder why”, how is any sane, rational person suppose to interpret that comment?

If someone made a post about Somali gays and someone responded with “ Is this a self confession”, wouldn’t be logical to assume one is insinuating the person is being accused of being a a closeted homosexual?

Come on, I made a post about atheism and you wrote “ Is this a self confession”?

Your comments are a cowardly way of making indirect Takfir and trying to get the readers to question my Islam and Somalinimo.

I am just calling you out on your nonsense and gaslighting. You can hide behind the “your being emotional” and stop “insulting” cards because you’re a narcissist who can never be wrong on any given subject.

 

[Idilinaa]

So if someone makes a post on Somali gays and I respond with “ you have an obsession with Somali gays, I wonder why”, how is any sane, rational person suppose to interpret that comment?

If someone made a post about Somali gays and someone responded with “ Is this a self confession”, wouldn’t be logical to assume one is insinuating the person is being accused of being a a closeted homosexual?

Come on, I made a post about atheism and you wrote “ Is this a self confession”?

Your comments are a cowardly way of making indirect Takfir and trying to get the readers to question my Islam and Somalinimo.

I am just calling you out on your nonsense and gaslighting. You can hide behind the “your being emotional” and stop “insulting” cards because you’re a narcissist who can never be wrong on any given subject.

The first 1 about self confession was not an indirection it was a genuine question and at the same time i clarified to you that there aren't many active Atheist users on this forum, to make that assessment from

After that you went on a rant arguing for the existence of atheist Somalis using forums and social media sites as a sample pool. That's not scientific, so yeah it raises questions as to why you would go to this extant to argue that point.

And then you make false accusations saying that i claimed you were ''gaal, anti-somali, and agent working against Somalis'' etc . I asked you to quote me a single post i made where i actually claimed that and you haven't shown one. It's like a projection.

 

[Idilinaa]

But of all the races of Africa there cannot be one better to live among than the most difficult, the proudest, the bravest, the vainest, the most merciless, the friendliest; the Somalis."

"A Somali always felt himself to be twice as good as any white man, or any other kind of man at all, and still does, even when he is wrong. Islam does wonders for the self respect of non-white people and Christianity is right to worry about the spread of Islam in Africa, and must honestly face the question of why it has happened - "

"I knew an Italian priest who had spent over thirty years among the
Somalis and he made two converts, and it amazed me that he got even those
two. The Prophet has no more fervent, and ignorant, followers, but that
is not their fault that they are ignorant.Their natural intelligence is
second to none and when the education factories start work among them
they should surprise Africa, and themselves."

"....You get into that way of thinking in the Somali waste. You think that way because the Somalis bitterly resent the white man, and struggle continually, and admirably, by lies and intrigue, to fight off his influence which spells the end of their peculiar world. You cannot beat them. They have no inferiority complexes, no wide-eyed worship of the white man's ways, and no fear of him, of his guns or of his official anger. They are a race to be admired, if hard to love."

I just noticed even by our 20th century colonial gaalo adversaries we are described as friendly. Like he says ''the friendliest'' out of all Africans.

But then you have users trying to convince people that Somalis are rude people like @idc

I not only live around Somalis i have traveled to many Somali inhabited areas. The reception has always been good.

We are so unlike Indians, who swarm random white people when they visit them and stand around starring at them.

There is a white travel vlogger who visited both India/Pakistan and Somalia got totally separate treatment, nobody stared at him and people generally payed him no mind.

A prominent Arab YouTuber makes a video about how the Scottish tourist wasn’t treated like a celebrity during his visit to Somalia

He also points out how Somalis don’t have an inferiority complex and compares it to how South Asians and Arabs would film him and take pictures everywhere he went when he visited their countries, whereas he didn’t receive the same treatment in Somalia Go to the settings and turn on the...

www.somalispot.com

You can hear it also from African who generally live around Somalis and any time people interview them, they say that we are friendly people and generous.

''Somalis are good people, they are generous, they are friendly and they know how to stay with visitors, there are only few who are Hostile - Many Somalis are Good''


It's just the general reputation we have:

This from a foreign British business group that has been operating in Somalia for years.

''Somalis are extremely open, friendly and hospitable. Strangers become friends before they become acquaintances. Returning the warmth and friendliness is an excellent way to gain trust.''

https://chelseagroupworldwide.com/advice-for-doing-business-in-somalia/

Even the camel culture christian missionary dudes was saying Somalis were kind and welcoming people and that he made many friends through us. It makes it all the more nefarious and bad spirited to exploit our open and welcoming nature to push an underhanded christian missionary agenda

Another thing i found funny about those colonial quotes they show a continuation as well, like Africans and Indians were all white worshiper and Somalis are not.

I remember another qoute someone posted on this forum of a Ugandan colonial subject of British admonishing Somalis for not loving white people, someone shared on this forum not to long ago.

Look at this, made me laugh: And also to him our bad quality is that we are ''Muhammadans''(Muslims)'' and that we never left our religion in spite of our frequent contacts with Europeans

African Coon's take on the Somalis after encountering them in 1902

The Katikiro (Prime Minister) of Buganda Sir Apollo Kagwa's take on the Somali after encountering them at the Gulf of Aden while on his way to London to attend the coronation of King Edward VII in 1902. He had been conditioned into mental slavery like many to this day(@Basra, @malab, @Lebron...

www.somalispot.com

 

[Riftvalley]

The first 1 about self confession was not an indirection it was a genuine question and at the same time i clarified to you that there aren't many active Atheist users on this forum, to make that assessment from

After that you went on a rant arguing for the existence of atheist Somalis using forums and social media sites as a sample pool. That's not scientific, so yeah it raises questions as to why you would go to this extant to argue that point.

And then you make false accusations saying that i claimed you were ''gaal, anti-somali, and agent working against Somalis'' etc . I asked you to quote me a single post i made where i actually claimed that and you haven't shown one. It's like a projection.

You’ve casted doubts on my Deen numerous times in this thread which is a grave sin in and of itself. Additionally, you implied my alleged “cynicism” towards Somalis can perhaps be explained by a covert plan of mine to spread atheism. Until now, you are still making the assertion I am perhaps “projecting” atheism. And all of this, because I said Somali atheists exist and Somalis who leave Islam are more likely to become atheists than Christians.

Yes, you didn’t say “rift is murtad”, but you put the pen on the dot and the numerous insinuations of me being a possible gaal with an agenda to promote atheism amongst Somalis is clear for all to see. You’re a coward who likes to paint ugly portraits of people and then you try weasel your way out when you are confronted.

You chose to ignore the hundreds of threads I’ve made here about Somali Islamic history and I am one of the most anti-Zionists/anti Habesha-expansion people on here. I will never accept a clown like yourself doubting my Deen or doubting my allegiance to my Somali brothers and sisters. My body of work on this forum, especially in the culture and history section, is clear for all to see.

And that is my last post on this subject.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

When he said our ''business competitors'' , i suspect he is probably talking about the ''Juba Farms'' that sell camel milk and meat throughout America, which is co-owned by two Somali brothers

You see the difference between them, because Juba Farms is a legitimate business they are not targeting Somalis in one location but trying to introduce Somali sourced animal food products to a wider American consumer base.

Juba Farms way better and should capitalize off of this.

Abdicowboy doesn't have much to do with these secret christans like 90% of his content was just commenting on somali politics. It's likely people just didn't like his political opinion and dug up some stuff to make him look bad. He of course has since went on lives with a bunch of people and even made tawba.

Yeah saw this entire situation unfold and his past is a little shaky and they pulled up some old videos. But he was a great guy, one of the very few who actually promoted somaliweyn and anti qabil and got a massive following. Now I see qabilists idiots on live just openly chanting some weird stuff against him. Hes apologized and from my view he never spoke bad about islam previously.