Galmudug refuses to hand over killers of Puntland family.

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

You are smoking some good shit, 4 of your men were smoked after trespassing 8 days ago by Rag hubeysan oo kaaso jeedo Saaxo you can guess who lives there. Don't think we are like Puntland


http://www.raxanreeb.com/2017/06/ma...y-deegaanka-kaxandhaale-ee-gobolka-galgaduud/

There is a serious issue in Saaxo with Galmudug militias constantly attacking.
Galmudug militias have never historically lived in these regions yet they are pushing violently into the border grazing areas.

 

[TekNiKo]

There is a serious issue in Saaxo with Galmudug militias constantly attacking.
Galmudug militias have never historically lived in these regions yet they are pushing violently into the border grazing areas.

They kidnapped two Marehan girls near Gelinsoor, they found their bodies 3 days later. This is how the conflict reignited, these folks must not be treated with kid gloves, their bloodlust knows no boundaries

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

They kidnapped two Marehan girls near Gelinsoor, they found their bodies 3 days later. This is how the conflict reignited, these folks must not be treated with kid gloves, their bloodlust knows no boundaries

What is it with Galmudug militias and girls/women/children?

This is abhorrent. May Allah have mercy on their souls. Subhanallah.

 

[Lord Flacko]

They kidnapped two Marehan girls near Gelinsoor, they found their bodies 3 days later. This is how the conflict reignited, these folks must not be treated with kid gloves, their bloodlust knows no boundaries

Was this before of after Xaaf was visited Abudwaq?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Was this before of after Xaaf was visited Abudwaq?

Abudwak is not the same as the border region.
Abudwak joined Galmudug hence Xaaf's visit, whereas Saaxo and the border areas are firmly Puntland.

 

[Lord Flacko]

Abudwak is not the same as the border region.
Abudwak joined Galmudug hence Xaaf's visit, whereas Saaxo and the border areas are firmly Puntland.

Gelinsoor is firmly Galmudug and is nowhere near the border region. It's closer to Abudwaq in fact

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Gelinsoor is firmly Galmudug and is nowhere near the border region. It's closer to Abudwaq in fact

Did I say Gelinsoor?

I said Saaxo.



Dhageyso Gudoomiyaha Deganka Saaxo u Qaabilsan Puntland oo Shegay in Galmudug ay Dulaan ku Tahay Puntland Waraysi Xiiso Badan

http://hobyomedia.com/2017/06/dhage...dulaan-ku-tahay-puntland-waraysi-xiiso-badan/

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Also,

Maamo Xaliimo Cali oo kasoo jeeda Deegaanada Hoostaga Dhabbad iyo Saaxo ayaa iyadoo wareysi gaar ah siisay Warbaahinta Allgalgaduud Media waxa ay ka hadashay Soo laalaabashada Dagaalada inta badan dhex mara Xoolo dhaqato ku Abtirsada Puntlnad iyo Galmudug.


http://allgalgaduud.com/2017/06/dha...badan-ka-tirsan-gobolada-dhexe-ee-soomaaliya/

 

[SuldaanGuled]

I have NEVER called for the massacre of people nor have I EVER supported it.
You can use the search function to prove me wrong.

Can we focus on the topic at hand? This is the political section, not the Q&A section.

I didn't say it was you but that's besides the point as you & others like you are always selective the reason being qabyaalad is clouding your judgements.

Injustice occurs between tribes that reside in puntland as well but why are you focused only when the injustice is done by hgs? are you implying that the killings don't matter when they're done by your own ? Statistically speaking if you compare the killings done by hgs & your fellow mjs which is more ?

I'm sacad & i can tell you that a lot of injustice happens within our subclans whereby the bigger jilibs get away with a lot of things, questions is why should i ignore this and focus only when it's carried out by mjs?

The simple truth is hgs kill each other more than they kill mjs and the opposite is true as well. Sidas darteed aan iska dhaafno qabyaalada walaal

 

[Lord Flacko]

Did I say Gelinsoor?

I said Saaxo.

I qouted @TekNiKo. Not you. The post about Gelinsoor was meant to show that's what I was talking about

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I didn't say it was you but that's besides the point as you & others like you are always selective the reason being qabyaalad is clouding your judgements.

Injustice occurs between tribes that reside in puntland as well but why are you focused only when the injustice is done by hgs? are you implying that the killings don't matter when they're done by your own ? Statistically speaking if you compare the killings done by hgs & your fellow mjs which is more ?

I'm sacad & i can tell you that a lot of injustice happens within our subclans whereby the bigger jilibs get away with a lot of things, questions is why should i ignore this and focus only when it's carried out by mjs?

The simple truth is hgs kill each other more than they kill mjs and the opposite is true as well. Sidas darteed aan iska dhaafno qabyaalada walaal

When it's internal, we don't run the risk of all-out war pertaining Puntland's borders or existence.
When it's an external party, in this case, Galmudug, it turns into a deeply contentious issue that can cause another civil war.
Last year, militias came from MOGADISHU to fight in Gaalkacyo. This almost caused another civil war as the people of Ogaadeenia, declared they would join the fighting to counter the aggression from Mogadishu.


All we want and ask for is for Galmudug and its people to stay within its borders.


We don't want to live in Galmudug nor do we want to graze there.

Let's leave each other alone and try to live in Somalia as neighbours who respect each other.


That's all.

You say "Mjs" but the Mareexaan (wagerdhac) also claim that your people are trying to create settlements in Dhabad, Saaxo and other Wagerdhac areas.

ALL your neighbours, including Hiiraan (your allies) are complaining about violent Galmudug militias trying to create settlements.

You speak of qabyaalad but are you willing to control your people?

 

[SuldaanGuled]

When it's internal, we don't run the risk of all-out war pertaining Puntland's borders or existence.
When it's an external party, in this case, Galmudug, it turns into a deeply contentious issue that can cause another civil war.
Last year, militias came from MOGADISHU to fight in Gaalkacyo. This almost caused another civil war as the people of Ogaadeenia, declared they would join the fighting to counter the aggression from Mogadishu.


All we want and ask for is for Galmudug and its people to stay within its borders.


We dont' want to live in Galmudug nor do we want to graze there.

Let's leave each other alone and try to live in Somalia as neighbours who respect each other.


That's all.

You say "Mjs" but the Mareexaan (wagerdhac) also claim that your people are pushing into Dhabad, Gelinsoor and other areas where they live.

So even if the internal strife leads to more death than a potential all out war with gm it doesn't matter miya. Furthermore do you believe that pl could be responsible for some of the disputes with gm sometimes ? or is gm in the wrong each & every time ? would you be willing to speak out against pl when they're in the wrong ?

I understand that you love your qabil so do i but don't let this jaceyl of yours lead you to the road of injustice. This is my advice walaal

Why should i answer for the injustice committed by someone from my qabil ? do you answer for yours ? Ilahay hakala qabto

I have never nor will i ever support any form of injustice committed by someone from my qabil & nor shall i be held accountable for their actions. Each and everyone of us will answer to Allah & i don't want to meet my rabb with the blood of others.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

So even if the internal strife leads to more death than a potential all out war with gm it doesn't matter miya. Furthermore do you believe that pl could be responsible for some of the disputes with gm sometimes ? or is gm in the wrong each & every time ? would you be willing to speak out against pl when they're in the wrong ?

I understand that you love your qabil so do i but don't let this jaceyl of yours lead you to the road of injustice. This is my advice walaal

Why should i answer for the injustice committed by someone from my qabil ? do you answer for yours ? Ilahay hakala qabto

I have never nor will i ever support any form of injustice committed by someone from my qabil & nor shall i be held accountable for their actions. Each and everyone of us will answer to Allah & i don't want to meet my rabb with the blood of others.

The day that Puntland invades Galmudug, I will be the first to condemn them!

I agree, ultimately, we will all answer for our own crimes.

However, we should stop our brothers when they are transgressing.

Galmudug militias are accused of harassing people all over Southern and Central Somalia, this is a fact that we cannot deny.

It's troubling and needs to be stopped.

Thank you for the discussion though.

 

[Shamis]

Not again




Let's just have separate countries

 

[SuldaanGuled]

The day that Puntland invades Galmudug, I will be the first to condemn them!

I agree, ultimately, we will all answer for our own crimes.

However, we should stop our brothers when they are transgressing.

Galmudug militias are accused of harassing people all over Southern and Central Somalia, this is a fact that we cannot deny.

It's troubling and needs to be stopped.

Thank you for the discussion though.

Waan fahmay laakin but what about PL don't they do the same as well. You see the thing is that neither GM nor PL is free from injustice overlooking one and focusing on the other due to qabil waa laga ficanyahay this is my point walaal.

Unless one has the means to stop them we're only limited to what we can do so instead of adding more problems let's come up with solutions walaal. Would you agree ?

Had you witnessed family members being killed right in front you by different jilibs from your clan & also by different clans you would've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter who the perpetrator is as be it your qabil or not. At the end of the day it won't change the reality on the ground ie your loved ones got killed and you'll never get justice for them in this world. This is what matters at least to me it does.

 

[Abdalla]

So even if the internal strife leads to more death than a potential all out war with gm it doesn't matter miya. Furthermore do you believe that pl could be responsible for some of the disputes with gm sometimes ? or is gm in the wrong each & every time ? would you be willing to speak out against pl when they're in the wrong ?

I understand that you love your qabil so do i but don't let this jaceyl of yours lead you to the road of injustice. This is my advice walaal

Why should i answer for the injustice committed by someone from my qabil ? do you answer for yours ? Ilahay hakala qabto

I have never nor will i ever support any form of injustice committed by someone from my qabil & nor shall i be held accountable for their actions. Each and everyone of us will answer to Allah & i don't want to meet my rabb with the blood of others.

Though you have good intentions and you come off as a sincere guy, you subconsciously described what is wrong with Galmudug. You washing your hands of is a clear indication that the good people in Galmudug can't control their mooryaans. I agree with you that the vast majority of people they've killed are their fellow HG, that makes the situation even more poignant. The people with the correct mentality are willingly or unwillingly submissive to the mooryaans.

I am not saying that MJs are holy and don't do any crimes. But whenever a heineous crime is committed, people come in action to rectify the crimes. I remember an incident few months ago that MJ mooryaans stole a trucks from Galmudug and the PL delivered those trucks back.

 

[Shamis]

Imagine there's no Maamuls
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to.kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
Ahuhuuu

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

pure samaale blood is more valuable

Nevertheless, those who killed, no matter what side their on should be dealt with.

And that's why you're a cursed bastard! To be ugly and stupid.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Though you have good intentions and you come off as a sincere guy, you subconsciously described what is wrong with Galmudug. You washing your hands of is a clear indication that the good people in Galmudug can't control their mooryaans. I agree with you that the vast majority of people they've killed are their fellow HG, that makes the situation even more poignant. The people with the correct mentality are willingly or unwillingly submissive to the mooryaans.

I am not saying that MJs are holy and don't do any crimes. But whenever a heineous crime is committed, people come in action to rectify the crimes. I remember an incident few months ago that MJ mooryaans stole a trucks from Galmudug and the PL delivered those trucks back.

Exactly.

There is a strong faction within Galmudug that does not want peace.
Last year, they even held their own elders hostage for holding peace talks with Puntland.

The problem is that they do not listen to anyone and they are embarrassing their entire community.
Whereas in Puntland, our elders and state hold more power and are able to subdue our criminal elements.

Our criminals are weak and are marginalised in society, our prisons are full of them. Whether it's pirates or the losers hiding in the mountains.

I hope that people like @SuldaanGuled ,gain power in Galmudug.
We all need to get along and it starts with peaceful, civilised dialogue and truth.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

We should build electric wall. Wallahi I will contribute to it, any red eyed Moryan that tries to jump over will be fried.