Garowe Needs Cheap Mass Housing

[DR OSMAN]

Garowe,waxay ubaahan tahay Guryo Raqiis ah oo cusub

Guryaha Amal ay Garowe ka dhisayso,waa maalgashi waxtar ah oo waliba dhiirigelinaya Maalgashiyo kale. Balse,waa Qaali oo Dadka caadiga ah ma iibsan karaan. Garowe,waxay ubaahan tahay Guryo raqiis a…

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Great I've been saying this for decades. Economy is built by targetting the masses and in volume not the diaspora and a potential space of a few hundred or thousand.

Thru bulk housing projects you make more money and play a role in addressing social issues like housing. Once a local knows housing is affordable, the incentive for them to work is much easier.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Jibril Qoobey is on the right track but one thing he never discusses is the productivity issue he makes a demand it can't exceed 30,000 the final finished house.

That's a constraint he set due to income conditions. The problem is how do we drive productivity to not exceed that price mark?

Cost of Materials and Labor is one thing but the actual work carried out during the transformation of raw resources to finish products requires productivity you want them producing maximum output within a time frame and intervals, skills level, etc how they use their 3 month project time frame and reduce each property completion to 12 weeks is the aim of productivity gains.

This requires good leadership, managers organising work carried out the best way, the input stage of raw resources needs to be bought as cheap as possible but not to cheap its rubbish so they need a formula how to select materials.

How is a team of 4 in Australia who can do the same project that takes 3 months in Somalia which is a single villa in 12 weeks and he wants to race to do it in 8 weeks and migrating to deliver more output from his 8 hours a day work. His way more attractive to investors, his high volume and output driven worker and delivers much more in his given time and wage given. His definitely better bang for money and that's how investors think when gouging worker output and returns for the money they give them for Labor.

Productivity is a given set of time, set of costs invested vs output given by each worker across all workers, that's a real economy.

 

[DR OSMAN]

PL construction companies run to Bangaldesh and India for labor value, better set of outputs vs wage given and they have given up on the dead human capital locally, let's be real. Siyad warned u dad ma jirayo he told u before he left.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Driving maximum value from each worker in 8 hours is the goal of investors, it's called productivity gains, your not changing his hours your just using it more efficiently. Some use tech, good leadership, management, to assist but the goal is we want maximum output for that 8 hours and that's the race in the whole world in businesses.

Because if they can run efficiently the sale price in the end can be still high but constrained due to other competitor prices they know their profit window due to competitor prices so the race is inside businesses and driving efficiency which means more output without changing worker hours.

 

[TheLand]

You always talk about needs dr, but what have you contributed back home?

 

[DR OSMAN]

You always talk about needs dr, but what have you contributed back home?

What I'm contributing is ideas your all heading down a rabbit hole because you lack brains, it was robbed of you after siyad fled and his elite and workforce fled, I'm returning talo and vision something most siyad elites or workforce or kids don't and want to see u wiped off the map for your silly mistake.

 

[TheLand]

What I'm contributing is ideas your all heading down a rabbit hole because you lack brains, it was robbed of you after siyad fled and his elite and workforce fled, I'm returning talo and vision something most siyad elites or workforce or kids don't and want to see u wiped off the map for your silly mistake.

Nobody needs that, we need you to be xamaali and build sxb. Be a realist.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Nobody needs that, we need you to be xamaali and build sxb. Be a realist.

I don't hate Australia don't try do some cheap below the belt shit there or even the west, I have an issue with the diplomats, architects who ally with the Americans playing this let's turn countries into anarchy thru internal rebellion or force them into aid if they don't bite the bait. I don't have to like their foreign policy doesn't mean I got any issue with their peasantry or their now called citizens lol

 

[TheLand]

I don't hate Australia don't try do some cheap below the belt shit there or even the west, I have an issue with the diplomats, architects who ally with the Americans playing this let's turn countries into anarchy thru internal rebellion or force them into aid if they don't bite the bait. I don't have to like their foreign policy doesn't mean I got any issue with their peasantry or their now called citizens lol

You are a typical Somali armchair general sxb. You want to sit back, spout half baked ideas and nothing more cause it’s too hard for you to do any actual work with your hands. This is the issue with our people, too many lazy guys who want to just talk about ‘ideas’. You afweyne grave worshippers have been talking for 40 years with nothing to show for it! You ain’t contributing jack.

 

[DR OSMAN]

You are a typical Somali armchair general sxb. You want to sit back, spout half baked ideas and nothing more cause it’s too hard for you to do any actual work with your hands. This is the issue with our people, too many lazy guys who want to just talk about ‘ideas’. You afweyne grave worshippers have been talking for 40 years with nothing to show for it! You ain’t contributing jack.

The problem is you can spend all your time working with your hands but if their isn't a brain behind it, your just working and not really producing the goals needed. If u took away the brain from humanity u wud be working no different to animal type of level. Animals work waryaa but they lack brains guiding them.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TheLand

Im done with u bro, i thought i could take u as young nigga but nah, ur down to animals fucking hands even animals have hands the thing they lack is brains and ideas that's what humans are looking to develop, it's the edge dummy. I'm taking @Yami as young nigga under wing, I don't discriminate on clan I just look at potential.

 

[TheLand]

@TheLand

Im done with u bro, i thought i could take u as young nigga but nah, ur down to animals fucking hands even animals have hands the thing they lack is brains and ideas that's what humans are looking to develop, it's the edge dummy. I'm taking @Yami as young nigga under wing, I don't discriminate on clan I just look at potential.

Don’t poison that kid. @Yami run! Leave him to argue with @Libaax-Joore kkkk

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TheLand

@Yami just listen to what his eyes see not empty words. Hands and work mean nothing or else we would see animal world in a great civilization. Humans realised it's the brain that is the edge nothing else not bodies and hands and work. Everything around u see Yami didn't start with hands and work but reports to some nigga idea on a book or forum or idea.

After that stage is done is when effort is applied. This dude is telling u effort comes before brain well u can see animals put in alot of effort but what have they got to show for it? he wants to put u down that rabbit hole, because his brain has been wasted on tiktok and random day to day shit that has no return on investment.

 

[wheel]

PL construction companies run to Bangaldesh and India for labor value, better set of outputs vs wage given and they have given up on the dead human capital locally, let's be real. Siyad warned u dad ma jirayo he told u before he left.

How would you fix this? Push ppl that are not academically successful into workshops and apprenticeships like in Germany. Attitudes and culture would need to change but this would have to happen.

 

[DR OSMAN]

How would you fix this? Push ppl that are not academically successful into workshops and apprenticeships like in Germany. Attitudes and culture would need to change but this would have to happen.

Investor ideas and framework isn't changing, it's a set formula that thinkers and ideas people gave them to assess the return on investment of their money vs competitor prices in their market window. The idea isn't changing.

They want maximum value for every dollar they invest in efficiency and output gains which they call value driven investment.


Basically the idea is grounded in they expended a set amount of wealth thru currency(their hurting now) they want in return maximum output thru Labor which comes thru their management, leadership, Labor workforce culture, skills, and general output per worker across multiple workers ,these niggas even doing mathamatics to measure it day to day, month to month, quarter to quarter and year to year. They even know where to tweak for efficiency gains at leadership, management, skilled or unskilled workers, culture and values, etc.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@wheel don't be like this dudes who thinks it's all about effort, hand, and work he will die no different to animals who follow that playbook. Its about brains, converted to ideas called strategies and then converted into tactics or steps addressing the idea or strategy. Once that stage is done only then is effort stage addressed which is also measured, calculated for maximum output.

Every idea or strategy is then measured over time for gains and its compared against other strategies also to see the least worst or the better among the good.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@wheel

How u think business is done? They get business loans, assess a market space, see competitor prices which is the window, they work out how they can deliver the product to market not exceeding the competitor price window for the industry. They then turn internally thru the supply chain, raw resources, value added transformation of it thru Labor, that's where their focusing on driving productivity gains internally so it generates.more outputs in goods or better services. That's modern business practise it's nothing new, it's a global standard.

What u think the world operates like some Somali backward business people? Their cost cutting or driving productivity gain out of workers that's modern business practise, that leads to gains in profit before it hit market which is constrained by competitor prices in industry space. Their not like.somalis using bartering and yelling in public shit.

 

[Tiyeglow]

Garowe is too expensive, it might honestly be the most expensive city in the Horn (Addis, Xamar have an insanely cheaper cost of lost). Amal real estate is being built with Deni attending its opening last month, but that won't impact the economy as much as reducing the cost of living in Garowe to even Bosaso levels.

Lots of theories why its so costly but i believe its because the complete transition to dollarisation, the relative population and thus money circulation. That combination + the previous piracy spike in investments has led to ridiculously costly prices. Kuala Lumpur, a global technologically developed megacity, is cheaper than Garowe. Thats absurd.

Solution? Well, mine is more radical. Rather than building more houses in Garowe, PL and other MS should push incessantly for Galkayo to be the capital (for various reasons I've gone into detail about - centre point, politically, economically, lingusitically).

What would that do for Garowe? Put less housing and economic pressure on the city and allow significant amount to move to Galkayo while PL can be in close proximity to Somali (and intl) politics. Its a no brainer. We need to start expanding our political imagination, I've pushed this to #PuntlandFirst founder Iman Ali, its the most pragmatic solution both economically and politically.

 

[Tiyeglow]

@DR OSMAN you believed Mogadishu is an economic bubble that is bound to burst once our parents generation stop investing in it. I disagree. The capital will always be everyone's go to spot, even with its eternal security issues. Hence the importance of changing the capital.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Garowe is too expensive, it might honestly be the most expensive city in the Horn (Addis, Xamar have an insanely cheaper cost of lost). Amal real estate is being built with Deni attending its opening last month, but that won't impact the economy as much as reducing the cost of living in Garowe to even Bosaso levels.

Lots of theories why its so costly but i believe its because the complete transition to dollarisation, the relative population and thus money circulation. That combination + the previous piracy spike in investments has led to ridiculously costly prices. Kuala Lumpur, a global technologically developed megacity, is cheaper than Garowe. Thats absurd.

Solution? Well, mine is more radical. Rather than building more houses in Garowe, PL and other MS should push incessantly for Galkayo to be the capital (for various reasons I've gone into detail about - centre point, politically, economically, lingusitically).

What would that do for Garowe? Put less housing and economic pressure on the city and allow significant amount to move to Galkayo while PL can be in close proximity to Somali (and intl) politics. Its a no brainer. We need to start expanding our political imagination, I've pushed this to #PuntlandFirst founder Iman Ali, its the most pragmatic solution both economically and politically.

Galkacyo is all good till u weigh up the fragile situation of that region vs the risk and as human we value security or risk with a higher value vs all the benefits u listed which are genuinely true but the risk outweighs it. Amni whether social, political, traditional or whatever dimension or angle u look at will always weigh much more in a trade off analysis vs any benefits the town offers which u listed some.