Gobolist Questions and Predictions Between SL and PL in the next 24months.

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Gobolists,

Aside from what’s happening between Puntland and Somaliland, every other Gobol is watching this very carefully.

My question to Reer Puntland, Galmudug, Hirshabelle, SWS and Jubbaland is what will happen in the next 24 months when Puntland stops laying claim to Sool and Sanaag on behalf of the central government and Sool and Sanaag see your progress as an opportunity to join the federal republic of Somalia.

Hold that thought and let’s get into some predictions from a gobolists point of view, because his conflict is far from over.

When Abdullahi Yusuf left Laascaanood after capturing and securing the region, he took his forces to Somalia to help usher in what you have today: The Federal System. When that happened there was nobody to defend the captured region, and SL took the opportunity to cease the region back when Abdullahi Yusufs’ key military assets where deployed to Xamaar.

After losing the poorly defended territory, the status quo was maintained between PL and SL with a very dark cloud above the political arena in the region—until January 2018.

In 2018, two new threats have taken place in SL that haven’t happened in the past 10-15 years: SL interclan uprisings and the maturing of Somali Gobols within Somalia.

These two factors alone will dictate the predictions of the region in the next 24months.

Here are my predictions from a gobolist point of view on why Sool and Sanaag might be holding Somali reconciliation efforts hostage.


Prediction one:

Puntland officially recognizes the British boundary of Somaliland and Khatuumo. PL focuses on building a relationship with SL based on security and mutual economic interests.

Outcome:

Khatumo ignites tention with SL, who has finally come into agreement with her border dispute and uses the opportunity to declare independence and allegence with Xamaar. Now we are back to square one and this time the conflict is between KS and SFG vs Somaliland, with Puntland maintaining a neutrality and step in as a mediator of both parties.

Prediction two:

SL interclan conflicts will increase and Khatumo will use it as an opportunity to declare independence. As gobols throughout Somalia gain stability and increase political maturity and development; the Sool and Sanaag region will admire their success and wish to emulate them in their region.


Outcome:

Benadir State is recognized to draw support for a third Hawiye State that brings Abgaal into the negotiations with Khatumo to recognize her and usher in a third Darood state within the SFG. As other gobolists support the these two new states, pressure will rise in Somaliland, as the likelyhood of recognition is extinguished. This will be a fatal blow to recognition and likely blow into a full fledged war between Somalia and SL.


Prediction Three:

SL continues its marginalization of non-Isaaq tribes. Tensions peak and Wadaniland declare independence from Somaliland. With the threat of Khatumo and Wadaniland declaring independence from SL, the federal army of Somalia will move its military assets to Bosasso and Garowe to insure the peaceful handover of the two new states into the SFG.

Outcome:

UAE withdrawals plans to build a military base in SL. Talks of opening the Berbera base to Russians gets the global attention SL needs.

The Russian military base is the final leverage SL has to get independence. As America and Europe see this as a threat. The British give a nod to the commonwealth countries to expediate the recognition of SL.



Allah knows best,


True gobolists want peace and prosperity for Somalia’s regions and states from Djibouti to Ras Kamboni without foreign influence. If the people of Sool and Sanaag declare once and for all their alligence to SL (without ever flipflopping and double dipping)— We the gobolists must wash our hands from dragging each other down and finally give Somaliland her Icitraf and the celebration and handover in the very place the conflict was avoided—Tuqarak.
 

Bohol

VIP
I can understand Puntland not recognizing Khaatumo but it is likely they could recognize Wadaniland to weaken Somaliland. They were quick to adopt the Jeegaan term.
 
Gobolists,

Aside from what’s happening between Puntland and Somaliland, every other Gobol is watching this very carefully.

My question to Reer Puntland, Galmudug, Hirshabelle, SWS and Jubbaland is what will happen in the next 24 months when Puntland stops laying claim to Sool and Sanaag on behalf of the central government and Sool and Sanaag see your progress as an opportunity to join the federal republic of Somalia.

Hold that thought and let’s get into some predictions from a gobolists point of view, because his conflict is far from over.

When Abdullahi Yusuf left Laascaanood after capturing and securing the region, he took his forces to Somalia to help usher in what you have today: The Federal System. When that happened there was nobody to defend the captured region, and SL took the opportunity to cease the region back when Abdullahi Yusufs’ key military assets where deployed to Xamaar.

After losing the poorly defended territory, the status quo was maintained between PL and SL with a very dark cloud above the political arena in the region—until January 2018.

In 2018, two new threats have taken place in SL that haven’t happened in the past 10-15 years: SL interclan uprisings and the maturing of Somali Gobols within Somalia.

These two factors alone will dictate the predictions of the region in the next 24months.

Here are my predictions from a gobolist point of view on why Sool and Sanaag might be holding Somali reconciliation efforts hostage.


Prediction one:

Puntland officially recognizes the British boundary of Somaliland and Khatuumo. PL focuses on building a relationship with SL based on security and mutual economic interests.

Outcome:

Khatumo ignites tention with SL, who has finally come into agreement with her border dispute and uses the opportunity to declare independence and allegence with Xamaar. Now we are back to square one and this time the conflict is between KS and SFG vs Somaliland, with Puntland maintaining a neutrality and step in as a mediator of both parties.

Prediction two:

SL interclan conflicts will increase and Khatumo will use it as an opportunity to declare independence. As gobols throughout Somalia gain stability and increase political maturity and development; the Sool and Sanaag region will admire their success and wish to emulate them in their region.


Outcome:

Benadir State is recognized to draw support for a third Hawiye State that brings Abgaal into the negotiations with Khatumo to recognize her and usher in a third Darood state within the SFG. As other gobolists support the these two new states, pressure will rise in Somaliland, as the likelyhood of recognition is extinguished. This will be a fatal blow to recognition and likely blow into a full fledged war between Somalia and SL.


Prediction Three:

SL continues its marginalization of non-Isaaq tribes. Tensions peak and Wadaniland declare independence from Somaliland. With the threat of Khatumo and Wadaniland declaring independence from SL, the federal army of Somalia will move its military assets to Bosasso and Garowe to insure the peaceful handover of the two new states into the SFG.

Outcome:

UAE withdrawals plans to build a military base in SL. Talks of opening the Berbera base to Russians gets the global attention SL needs.

The Russian military base is the final leverage SL has to get independence. As America and Europe see this as a threat. The British give a nod to the commonwealth countries to expediate the recognition of SL.



Allah knows best,


True gobolists want peace and prosperity for Somalia’s regions and states from Djibouti to Ras Kamboni without foreign influence. If the people of Sool and Sanaag declare once and for all their alligence to SL (without ever flipflopping and double dipping)— We the gobolists must wash our hands from dragging each other down and finally give Somaliland her Icitraf and the celebration and handover in the very place the conflict was avoided—Tuqarak.

Prediction 1 or 2 seem the most likely. 3 is impossible, because Somalia can't even control xamar let alone Sool & Sanaag. If scenario 3 ever happened, Puntland would be doing most, if not all of the work.

Somaliland will fall if other qabils inside somaliland lose respect and trust towards the government. It looks like that isn't happening so far. The Isaaq sub-clans arguing over the election results aren't serious IMO. It's like the republicans and democrats in america. They may not like each other, but they aren't going to start killing each other.
 
If the average Somali thought like mudane Larry I would be attending sing Uni in Xamar

This clip from niin culus in Garowe who was Aideeds Vice President puts this into perspective.

He sobered everyone up quickly on both sides and tells the truth.




I have no idea why people even subscribe to this channel, but it was the only that posted the clip.
 

saywalahi

Xamar Living
This clip from niin culus in Garowe who was Aideeds Vice President puts this into perspective.

He sobered everyone up quickly on both sides and tells the truth.




I have no idea why people even subscribe to this channel, but it was the only that posted the clip.

he was aideed's VP :dwill:


but khaatumo being recognized is very unlikely, the best that can happen is that the parts of sool iyo sanaag inhabited by hartis join PL wholheartledy.
 
Sool and Sanaag will stay under Somaliland, that's the most likely scenario.

what's most certain tho is

Interstate conflicts
Inner-state conflicts

Famines and Droughts
Power struggles and Clout

Humiliation and Defeat
Rinse and Repeat
 
Sool and Sanaag will stay under Somaliland, that's the most likely scenario.

what's most certain tho is

Interstate conflicts
Inner-state conflicts

Famines and Droughts
Power struggles and Clout

Humiliation and Defeat
Rinse and Repeat

This is one the final major disputes in Somalia.

Somalis will only reach peace traveling through hardships.

Our near term blessing is the minimal corporate concessions and exploitation of our resources like the rest of Africa. We really need to have enough social energy left when we are prepared to prosper after peace.
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
This clip from niin culus in Garowe who was Aideeds Vice President puts this into perspective.

He sobered everyone up quickly on both sides and tells the truth.




I have no idea why people even subscribe to this channel, but it was the only that posted the clip.

This guy was not a big boy but a boi who was crushed by Abdullahi Yusuf. He's a fuckboi who wanted to divide MJs into subclans. Somalia did not have VP except during the dictatorship. Caydiids PM was Cumar Care, who was Isaaq.

He enjoys no respect from us.
 
This is one the final major disputes in Somalia.

Somalis will only reach peace traveling through hardships.

Our near term blessing is the minimal corporate concessions and exploitation of our resources like the rest of Africa. We really need to have enough social energy left when we are prepared to prosper after peace.

I heard this a lot all indications seems to point that after the shabab are dealt with. The northern problem will be the last issue for somalis to deal with be it throught talk or through a fight.
 

TekNiKo

Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
VIP
This guy was not a big boy but a boi who was crushed by Abdullahi Yusuf. He's a fuckboi who wanted to divide MJs into subclans. Somalia did not have VP except during the dictatorship. Caydiids PM was Cumar Care, who was Isaaq.

He enjoys no respect from us.
Hes infected by siilplomacy. Kulaha rer khatuumo xadka ingiriistay aqoonsanyihiin:siilaanyolaugh:
 
Somaliland Colonial borders seized to exist, when it joined Somalia in 1960. the fact they lay claim to Sool/sanaag due to "Colonial" borders is absurd, and ridiculous, because these borders were abolished when the north and south joined together forming ONE country.

Puntland has a more realistic claim too Sanaag/Sool then Somaliland, due to them being more connected to the inhabitants through clan lines then Somaliland whos only claim to that region is "Colonial" borders which fell in 60s.
 
This clip from niin culus in Garowe who was Aideeds Vice President puts this into perspective.

He sobered everyone up quickly on both sides and tells the truth.




I have no idea why people even subscribe to this channel, but it was the only that posted the clip.

Maxamed Xaaji Aadan, the man in the clip is Ciise Maxamuud, Majeerteen. He was Caydiid's deputy when his people were being massacred and displaced in Xamar and Kismaayo. He is well know a a betrayer of his people and has mental problems as well. Since those days he has been an exile in Hargeysa, and is not even allowed to return to his hometown Garoowe. Even this interview was recorded in Hargeysa as part of Jeegaanland propaganda. I'm surprised that you swallowed his bullshit hook, line and sinker, yet you claim to be from Puntland.

This is a conflict and there will be fake news or fake Majeerteen in this case. If you are in touch with your people, you know that no true Majeerteen will talk like that. Harti are brothers, stop trying to divide them.
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
I'm really hoping for prediction one so that Somaliland can allocate more of its funds to development and creating jobs instead of all of it on security.

Imagine Puntland and Somaliland actually cooperating ensuring economic growth between them. The success of Somaliland would be the success of Puntland and vice versa. Somaliland is to stubborn to leave Sool and Sanaag. Sooner we realize this the better.
 

Lordilord

❤Somaliland❤
Somaliland Colonial borders seized to exist, when it joined Somalia in 1960. the fact they lay claim to Sool/sanaag due to "Colonial" borders is absurd, and ridiculous, because these borders were abolished when the north and south joined together forming ONE country.

Puntland has a more realistic claim too Sanaag/Sool then Somaliland, due to them being more connected to the inhabitants through clan lines then Somaliland whos only claim to that region is "Colonial" borders which fell in 60s.
The borders stopped to exist of course but the legal claim to the border never stopped to exist. We can argue all day but the treaty Somaliland signed cleary states that Somaliland can willingly leave the union if they wish to.

You are right about Puntland being realistically better suitor for Sool and Sanaag but it holds no weight legally. Whilst Somaliland conveniently has a legal claim because of the independence from England.

This is one of the reasons Somalia can't bring Somaliland up for international courts.
 

Von

With blood and Iron will we reach the fatherland
All your outcomes are separation or division and besides focus on your own gobol like you always preach, are you from Gedo :kodaksmiley:
 
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