GOG MAGOG - "The Guardian Protectors of City of London" Parades

[Inquisitive_]

Very few people know that throughout history marches took place honouring "Gog/Magog" as the protectors of the city of London.

These marches continues until this day which they refer to as the "medieval legends of the early British kings"

They have been carried in the lord mayor show since the reign of Henry V, you can read the entire story below directly from the horses mouth. "lord mayor show"

The Story of Gog/Magog Lord Mayor show
https://lordmayorsshow.london/history/gog-and-magog


Below are images of this march that has been taking place since the medieval times as purported by their own history (which they class between the 5th and 15th century) this fits in perfectly when the Prophet in the 7th century in that famous hadith cited that a hole was opened in barrier Dhul Qarneyn built (discussions regarding this will follow later inshaallah)

Magog (or Gog?!!) The statues of London's fabled protectors stand proud

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[McLovin]

How did you forget to tag @Cognitivedissonance ? This stuff is right up his alley

 

[Inquisitive_]

How did you forget to tag @Cognitivedissonance ? This stuff is right up his alley

So even when the British themselves parade annually their guardian 'protectors' in a procession that has been ongoing in the city of London (own sovereignty) since the medieval times honouring 'Gog, Magog' as depicted in scriptures and extensively documented from the horses mouth.

Whilst showing you images of the various marches were those same guardian protectors are carried through the streets (by mostly the elitists/bankers in the city) you still argue it's conspiracy? is this how deaf dumb and blind you are sxb?

At this point I don't think anything is enough to wake you up from that self inflicted slumber and deep psychosis, you have become so deranged you have lost complete contact with reality.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Probably brought by the pagan vikings.

 

[Genie]

This completely threw me under the bus , because i remember some christian guy on youtube doing a little lecture on Gog and Magog , the brits and americans in the comment section were calling it folklore or bullshit basically. Here they are celebrating them in London. I'm confused tbh.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Probably brought by the pagan vikings.

The theory I find most plausible in regards to Gog/Magog and who they are is the "Vikings". When the Prophet (peace blessing be upon him) in shock told Zaynab that a hole was opened in the barrier Dhul Qarnayn built "and woe to the Arabs" (7th century) soon after the Vikings came forth plundering much of Europe in the first 3 centuries.

These Vikings later became Norman's and in France they began to take the titles of "Duke" after plundering much of the country, leading to a series of violent revolutions across the whole of Europe including Russia

William the Conqueror took control of what is now Britain and you had a whole line of Norman kings that includes even the Queens, the barrier is likely the mountain pass in Norway which makes the most sense rather then the Caucus mountains Darial Gorge which the people could easily circumnavigate around it.

But the one in Norway would not be possible because you have to go through the treacherous Arctic which they wouldn't survive, much of the Europeans have Norman blood-line due to the brutal invasions/slavery/rape, they destroyed the Western Roman empire and much of the monasteries if you read the account of the Bishops it's horrifying how they described these people, they also came to the same conclusions.

You then had a period of vicious crusades as they took up Christianity leaving their paganism, then came the brutal non-stop colonialism wiping out entire continents, tribes and nations from the face of the Earth, they also brought 'democracy' to Europe, the whole idea came about because they mostly acted as individual barbarians in groups and thus the only way to reconcile such a chaotic warring society was through giving the people 'choice' as to whom becomes the leader

The hadith that none but Allah can destroy them makes sense in present times as well as the past, in present day it's their superior technology, in the past these barbaric people were physically stronger in terms of brute strength as well as superior then most in terms of weaponry.

It's like the present day Khawaarij, they keep coming forth in phases every century after a period of calm, GOG/MAGOG should be understood in the same way, we are in that relative calm period (in the west only), just as before the Afghan war by the USSR, we had no Khawariij groups for centuries and then they suddenly they sprung up everywhere.

The hadith that baffled all scholars and the people regarding that from very 1000, 999 will be destined to Hell and the Sahaba's were shocked until the Prophet told them they will be from GOG/MAGOG, could be understood today as this current GOG/MAGOG world order and those whom embrace it/follow it (atheism/hedonism occultism) will be part of them (just as we are told a Muslim that follows Christian traditions are one of the same)

The Ayah in Surah Anbiya "they will come forth from every height/elevation" makes sense as they control lands/sea/oceans/financial centres etc. which they call 'full spectrum dominance', the city of London is one of those centre (hence the GOG/MAGOG being seen as the Guardians since the medieval period when they took control and the subsequent yearly marches)

There is no history about the Vikings before the time of our Prophet and the Europhile historians are baffled at how quickly they descended upon Europe in huge numbers, those people pretty much run all those countries today and the City of London is the centre, this should be viewed in this context.

 

[random12345]

So even when the British themselves parade annually their guardian 'protectors' in a procession that has been ongoing in the city of London (own sovereignty) since the medieval times honouring 'Gog, Magog' as depicted in scriptures and extensively documented from the horses mouth.

Whilst showing you images of the various marches were those same guardian protectors are carried through the streets (by mostly the elitists/bankers in the city) you still argue it's conspiracy? is this how deaf dumb and blind you are sxb?

At this point I don't think anything is enough to wake you up from that self inflicted slumber and deep psychosis, you have become so deranged you have lost complete contact with reality.

We live in a time where people argue that devil worship is just another religion

 

[Zayd]

Maybe there's a spiritual dimension to this....

Seeing that the British Empire largely brought about change around the world and was committing oppression in the form of ethnic cleansing, one of the trademarks of Gog and Magog in the Quran is them being Mufsideen, perpetrator of fasad.

 

[Inquisitive_]

We live in a time where people argue that devil worship is just another religion

It's part of the deception, they no longer hide these things as they used to in the past and a lot of it has to do with the fact how most people have become even more stupid, even the dupes themselves will argue with you that it's just a form "art" "expression" before arguing it's a another 'cult' or religion.

Maybe there's a spiritual dimension to this....

Seeing that the British Empire largely brought about change around the world and was committing oppression in the form of ethnic cleansing, one of the trademarks of Gog and Magog in the Quran is them being Mufsideen, perpetrator of fasad.

Absolutely, I remember Imran Hussein interpret the mind boggling hadith regarding Dajjal his first day being like a "year" the second like a "month" the third like a "week" and the rest will be like your days.

This is clearly symbolic language that can't be taken literally, Imrain hussein interprets this as a day like a year being the British empire (1490- until end of world war 2) since it ruled the longest (Pax Britannica), we know the Vikings pretty much took over through William the conqueror later becoming Normans and did the same across much of Europe.

A day like a month being the Pax Americana that took over after world war 2 which currently we are still under (Of the same Norman European heritage), but we can see the decline is very near and the rule hasn't lasted that long and is likely to end soon through either (economic collapse, world war 3 etc.) the latter looks more likely with a shoot-out with Russia (GOG/MAGOG war prophecised in the bible).

When that happens it brings us to a day like a week with likely much of the world destroyed through nukes, which is when PAX Judaica rules the world from Jerusalem by the Fake Khazar Jews, if you look at the biblical prophecies as they themselves believe and even more so their 'Talmud' (not part of scripture)

Their messiah cannot come until the world is ruled from Jerusalem, the evangelical Christians believe the same (hence the Judea-Christian alliance today never seen before in the world, it's really Gog/Magog alliance), the Evangelical Christians are obsessed with the Jews returning to their homelands (something never seen before in history, all started 150 years ago).

Their rule will be a day like a week (signifying it won't last that long) until the other days of Dajjal will be like our days (when the physical appearance of him manifests upon the world to rule from Jerusalem as these fake Jews believe he will once the Temple is rebuilt, which has already started)

Since we know from the Hadith of Tamim u Dari the Christian that became Muslim that met Dajjal on an Island then told the Prophet, we know he is already physically here, hence much of the background work until his actual appearance a day like our days becomes manifest.

This view from Imran Hussain is further strengthened by the hadith regarding Gog/Magog, the first of them will drink from Lake Tabari (sea of Galilee which is the fresh water source they use in Israel), when the last one of them comes to drink "he will say their used to be water here".

The sea of Galilee is already at the point of no return according to the Khazar Jews, which implies they are already drinking from it and more and more of them will continue to migrate their until the last one finds no water their as per hadith. (implying they are GOG/MAGOG the Akhenazi's)

We know from hadith Moses was black man and hence so would his followers implying the true Hebrews were all black, we know they were cursed by him as well as the Prophets that were sent to them after Moses.

The bible is even more explicit regarding the curses (iron collars on their necks being carried in slave ships to all four corners of the world being made to forget about themselves) with that in mind, we come to the following Ayah were I disagree with virtually all the interpretations of every classical scholar I read, including Imran Hussain conclusion.


The Ayah Surah Anbiya Verse 95/96 begin to make sense.
And there is prohibition upon [the people of] a city which We have destroyed that they will never return Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend

The word 'Qaryah' in Surah Yasin is also used to refer to "Jerusalem" explicitly but can also mean any town (which is the view most classical scholars took), since the previous verses were talking about the Isrealites I see this as a continuation of that same topic.

Hence I agree with Imran it's likely Jerusalem the city being referred to in this verse, we know the true Hebrews (from Moses line whom we explicitly from hadith know was black)

Were massacred and taken into slavery by the Babylonian's until Dhul Qarneyn freed them to return, then came the worst of the worst through the Roman's, hence "the true Hebrews" will never return (Surah Isra deals with these punishments) just as any destroyed city it's inhabitants never return until GOG/MAGOG descend from every height/elevation.

Thats were I differ with Imran Hussain whom takes it to mean the Jews won't return until Gog/Magog take them their which makes no sense as these are fake Jews and the spawns of Gog/Magog themselves.

And Allah knows best, but this is theory that makes most sense to me

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

How did you forget to tag @Cognitivedissonance ? This stuff is right up his alley

Cause of Bermuda Triangle

 

[Rorschach]

I believe that what the Qur'an states on Yajooj and Majooj is literal, and it should be taken as such:

Until, when he reached [a pass] between two mountains, he found beside them a people who could hardly understand [his] speech.

They said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, indeed Gog and Magog are [great] corrupters in the land. So may we assign for you an expenditure that you might make between us and them a barrier?"

He said, "That in which my Lord has established me is better [than what you offer], but assist me with strength; I will make between you and them a dam.

Bring me sheets of iron" - until, when he had leveled [them] between the two mountain walls, he said, "Blow [with bellows]," until when he had made it [like] fire, he said, "Bring me, that I may pour over it molten copper."

So Gog and Magog were unable to pass over it, nor were they able [to effect] in it any penetration.

[Dhul-Qarnayn] said, "This is a mercy from my Lord; but when the promise of my Lord comes, He will make it level, and ever is the promise of my Lord true."

Qur'an [Surah 18: v93 - 98]​

There's the Ibn Maajah Hadith (3298) where the Prophet (SAW) says that they chip away at the barrier everyday until they're close to breaking through, and eventually one of them calls it a day; the wall rematerialises while they rest. Rinse and repeat - until one of them says InshaAllah, finally breaking through. This Hadith indicates that there's a real barrier of some mystical properties.

Then there are the numerous Hadiths where the Prophet (SAW) says that Allah made a small opening in the barrier: "making a circle with his thumb and index finger".

I believe that they are a real people, enclosed in an unknown location, who'll only come out after the period of peace during Prophet Isa (AS) reign. The order of events in Islamic eschatology is:

• Great Wars:
  • Muslims and Christian alliance vs. the other (possibly also Christians);
  • Muslims and Christians from initial alliance confront (standoff in Constantinople) - mass casualties;
  • March on Ka'ba and subsequent sink hole that destroys army. Abandonment of Medina;
• Emergence and leadership of the Mahdi (AS) - prosperity (in terms of bounty) and military campaigns;
• Emergence of Dajjal, and his 40 day rule and fitna (a day a month, etc.);
• Emergence of Prophet Isa (AS); Dajjal killed;
• Peace and prosperity for Muslims under Isa's leadership;
• Emergence of Yajooy & Majooj;
• Death of Y&M (divine);
• Death of Isa (AS);
• Downward spiral...

I've listened to Imran Hossein before who has believes that Dajjal is the system. Very knowledgeable and entertaining brother - but totally of the mark on this in my opinion. The supernatural ability of Dajjal, the numbers and feats of Gog & Magog (draining seas), etc. should all be taken literately.

 

[McLovin]

I believe that what the Qur'an states on Yajooj and Majooj is literal, and it should be taken as such:

Until, when he reached [a pass] between two mountains, he found beside them a people who could hardly understand [his] speech.

They said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, indeed Gog and Magog are [great] corrupters in the land. So may we assign for you an expenditure that you might make between us and them a barrier?"

He said, "That in which my Lord has established me is better [than what you offer], but assist me with strength; I will make between you and them a dam.

Bring me sheets of iron" - until, when he had leveled [them] between the two mountain walls, he said, "Blow [with bellows]," until when he had made it [like] fire, he said, "Bring me, that I may pour over it molten copper."

So Gog and Magog were unable to pass over it, nor were they able [to effect] in it any penetration.

[Dhul-Qarnayn] said, "This is a mercy from my Lord; but when the promise of my Lobees, He will make it level, and ever is the promise of my Lord true."

Qur'an [Surah 18: v93 - 98]​

There's the Ibn Maajah Hadith (3298) where the Prophet (SAW) says that they chip away at the barrier everyday until they're close to breaking through, and eventually one of them calls it a day; the wall rematerialises while they rest. Rinse and repeat - until one of them says InshaAllah, finally breaking through. This Hadith indicates that there's a real barrier of some mystical properties.

Then there are the numerous Hadiths where the Prophet (SAW) says that Allah made a small opening in the barrier: "making a circle with his thumb and index finger".

I believe that they are a real people, enclosed in an unknown location, who'll only come out after the period of peace during Prophet Isa (AS) reign. The order of events in Islamic eschatology is:

• Great Wars:
  • Muslims and Christian alliance vs. the other (possibly also Christians);
  • Muslims and Christians from initial alliance confront (standoff in Constantinople) - mass casualties;
  • March on Ka'ba and subsequent sink hole that destroys army. Abandonment of Medina;
• Emergence and leadership of the Mahdi (AS) - prosperity (in terms of bounty) and military campaigns;
• Emergence of Dajjal, and his 40 day rule and fitna (a day a month, etc.);
• Emergence of Prophet Isa (AS); Dajjal killed;
• Peace and prosperity for Muslims under Isa's leadership;
• Emergence of Yajooy & Majooj;
• Death of Y&M (divine);
• Death of Isa (AS);
• Downward spiral...

I've listened to Imran Hossein before who has believes that Dajjal is the system. Very knowledgeable and entertaining brother - but totally of the mark on this in my opinion. The supernatural ability of Dajjal, the numbers and feats of Gog & Magog (draining seas), etc. should all be taken literately.

Wait so you literally believe in a race of midgets, hiding behind a mountain, stacked up on each other for thousands of years. But somehow in the age of Google Earth and radar scanning.. haven't been discovered by man yet.


Eebe ha ku hanuuniyo sxb

 

[random12345]

Wait so you literally believe in a race of midgets, hiding behind a mountain, stacked up on each other for thousands of years. But somehow in the age of Google Earth and radar scanning.. haven't been discovered by man yet.


Eebe ha ku hanuuniyo sxb

Cause Google Earth maps everything(except large parts of Africa and Asia)

 

[McLovin]

Cause Google Earth maps everything(except large parts of Africa and Asia)

Sxb we pretty much turned over every rock on this planet. If there was a race of arrow weilding midgets hiding behind a great wall we would've found it by now


I bet you're gonna tell me god cast a magic spell to make them invisible from us on some Harry Potter ish. Allahu Aclam kkkk

 

[Rorschach]

Wait so you literally believe in a race of midgets, hiding behind a mountain, stacked up on each other for thousands of years. But somehow in the age of Google Earth and radar scanning.. haven't been discovered by man yet.


Eebe ha ku hanuuniyo sxb

Dude, if we accept that the barrier rematerialises on a cyclical basis over millenia, is it any further stretch of the imagination that its location is hidden from us by the Creator? You smug donkey.

 

[random12345]

Sxb we pretty much turned over every rock on this planet. If there was a race of arrow weilding midgets hiding behind a great wall we would've found it by now


I bet you're gonna tell me god cast a magic spell to make them invisible from us on some Harry Potter ish. Allahu Aclam kkkk

Actually that's a good answer. Why not believe that if you believe that Allah created the universe?

 

[McLovin]

Actually that's a good answer. Why not believe that if you believe that Allah created the universe?

Because it is clearly an ad hoc and you don't have an Islamic text to support the ridiculous reason why yajuuj and majuuj haven't been found yet despite their huge numbers



Gotta love the literalists

 

[random12345]

Because it is clearly an ad hoc and you don't have an Islamic text to support the ridiculous reason why yajuuj and majuuj haven't been found yet despite their huge numbers



Gotta love the literalists

No other way to go about it, you have to be literal in regard to this. Allah knows and ishaallah we'll find out. Can't answer a "what if" that scholars aren't even certain about.

 

[Inquisitive_]

I believe that what the Qur'an states on Yajooj and Majooj is literal, and it should be taken as such:

Until, when he reached [a pass] between two mountains, he found beside them a people who could hardly understand [his] speech.

They said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, indeed Gog and Magog are [great] corrupters in the land. So may we assign for you an expenditure that you might make between us and them a barrier?"

He said, "That in which my Lord has established me is better [than what you offer], but assist me with strength; I will make between you and them a dam.

Bring me sheets of iron" - until, when he had leveled [them] between the two mountain walls, he said, "Blow [with bellows]," until when he had made it [like] fire, he said, "Bring me, that I may pour over it molten copper."

So Gog and Magog were unable to pass over it, nor were they able [to effect] in it any penetration.

[Dhul-Qarnayn] said, "This is a mercy from my Lord; but when the promise of my Lord comes, He will make it level, and ever is the promise of my Lord true."

Qur'an [Surah 18: v93 - 98]​

There's the Ibn Maajah Hadith (3298) where the Prophet (SAW) says that they chip away at the barrier everyday until they're close to breaking through, and eventually one of them calls it a day; the wall rematerialises while they rest. Rinse and repeat - until one of them says InshaAllah, finally breaking through. This Hadith indicates that there's a real barrier of some mystical properties.

Then there are the numerous Hadiths where the Prophet (SAW) says that Allah made a small opening in the barrier: "making a circle with his thumb and index finger".

I believe that they are a real people, enclosed in an unknown location, who'll only come out after the period of peace during Prophet Isa (AS) reign. The order of events in Islamic eschatology is:

• Great Wars:
  • Muslims and Christian alliance vs. the other (possibly also Christians);
  • Muslims and Christians from initial alliance confront (standoff in Constantinople) - mass casualties;
  • March on Ka'ba and subsequent sink hole that destroys army. Abandonment of Medina;
• Emergence and leadership of the Mahdi (AS) - prosperity (in terms of bounty) and military campaigns;
• Emergence of Dajjal, and his 40 day rule and fitna (a day a month, etc.);
• Emergence of Prophet Isa (AS); Dajjal killed;
• Peace and prosperity for Muslims under Isa's leadership;
• Emergence of Yajooy & Majooj;
• Death of Y&M (divine);
• Death of Isa (AS);
• Downward spiral...

I've listened to Imran Hossein before who has believes that Dajjal is the system. Very knowledgeable and entertaining brother - but totally of the mark on this in my opinion. The supernatural ability of Dajjal, the numbers and feats of Gog & Magog (draining seas), etc. should all be taken literately.

The only position that supports the literal interpretation is the Ibn Maajah Hadith (3298) you quoted, I believe this is found in Tirmidhi, there are two views on this, one of them based on methodology that the Quran and the hadith in Bukhari/Muslim appear to contradict it, the hadith is weakened.


The other view which I incline more towards is that this hadith doesn't prove the literal position, it could have happened and this is supported by the 'opening' that was made when the Prophet in shock said "woe to the Arabs" to Zeynab and she inquired "will we be destroyed, even tough their are righteous people amongst us" hence it refutes the mystical barrier if you take that hadith literal.


You will run into various other problems like the hadith Dajjal " first day like a year", "second day like a month", "third day like a week" this is clearly symbolic language.


Your biggest problem will be the hadith regarding the sea of Galilee which is so dangerously low they pump water from the Jordan river to it and they estimate that soon they will run out (already a point of no return)

This very clearly indicates they are already drinking from this as this river is used presently as their fresh water resource as well as for agriculture, because the hadith states when the first of them drinks from it (the first Zionist Ashkenazi settlers) and when the last one comes he will say there used to be water here (the migrations continue and they estimate the river will be dry in less then a decade)

This is the biggest prove against the literal interpretation, the same problem with the hadith 999 from every 1000 going to hell being from Gog/Magog, but we know many Munafiq's, mass murderers, criminals from among the Muslim not forgiven or Christian's/Pagan's etc will go to hell, so why did the Prophet say rejoice they are from Gog/Magog the 999?

Again it only makes sense if you view this symbolically, keep in mind this group of people ravaged through the Earth until Dhul Qarneyn built the barrier, he didn't even attempt to fight them despite having the biggest army.

When the Vikings took over France shortly after the Prophet said a hole was made, they immediately ransacked Europe for 3 centuries straight giving credence to the barriers falling then, they quickly took over much of Europe including France/England,

The historians until this day are totally baffled by this sudden attack in such great numbers, the Bishops in England at that time referred to them as Gog/Magog when they ransacked the churches/monstrosities, the Muslims repeatedly succumbed to defeats against the French while ruling Spain.

If you go through their history (Vikings, later becoming Normans) and all the brutalities that began shortly after the Prophet, culminating in a series of vicious wars, infighting, wiping out entire continents of people, tribes etc. followed by colonialism, world wars and the current neo-colonialism, no doubt in my mind who these people are.

 

[TekNiKo]

Allahu aclam, the Dajjalic system and the cinstant symbolyism in mainstream western society suggests we are already in the end time phase.

Theres one hole in your theory @Inquisitive_ and that is the fact that if Gog and Magog were already here why would they suddenly be equipped with arrows and cause havoc when Nabi Isse returns to slay Dajjal? He even seeks safety with the few believers remaining at Mount Sinai? I believe correct me if Im wrong. Allah will massacre them with a worm like disease.

It seems like the floodgates open then