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Garaad Awal
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Who created this banana stereotype? Iโve never eaten rice with Banana
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Siad barre after pushing the banana rice combo to push revenue from banana farmers creating a stereotype decades later.
Didn't ibn battuta mention that people were eating banana and rice in Mogadishu.
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yeah but siad made it a proper campaign to make it a popular part of our diet however like you said it was always a aspect of somali food culture.
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The guy walked around with a banana cocked in his hand, raw (pause), like he was holding a pistol, and the other in his pocket stepping like it is a saturday evening stroll. He could have put it in a bac like a normal person.
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I had enough cringe for the day sxb. UFF he touched his banana
What is this abomination? Banana does not work with these other peoples cuunto.
These self flagellating niggas are my bane
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A genuine person would have bought the food, gone home, and then added a banana, if that was something they liked. This is weird self-depcriating, "please associate me with the stereotype" nonsense. It's a wrong form of attention-seeking. No one asked him if he was Somali, still, he had to mention it because, of course, Somalis and bananas naturally go together (pause). You're begigng being the butt of the joke at that point and making us seem like banana is the main ingredient in every dish like the comment under you showing how an Afgahni guy says "Somali food" with it only being a bana on the side of Afghani food.
It's cultural mockery based on misrepresentation, and it is the Somalis' fault. I made a thread last year showing how a restaurant owner saw a customer mix in banana, like mushing it in a dish we don't eat with the fruit, ruining the dish, and the owner said, "Yes," lying, when the customer asked, "Is this how you eat it?" Some Somalis like creating unnecessary spectacles, forcing culture shocks that don't exist. This ruins our cultural integrity. You can't brand your dishes if people automatically think banana when someone says, "Have you eaten Somali food?" Other countries and cultures are very particular in representing their food right. Because they want to control their cultural capital. It's very important to guard your culture and exercise the definitional power in the right direction. People have genuinely quirky things in their foods. Like Thailand eats tarantulas, Congolese eat insects, Xabash eat raw meat... You never hear stereotypes being made about them because they don't clown out every time inquiries about their food are mentioned. Somalis make very nice food; that does not stop them from pretending they add banana to everything, even coffee.
We invited some people over to eat dinner in Egypt. I ate a banana with my bariis. The guy said, "You guys eat it with your dish, we eat it after." The guy did not act surprised, and neither did I do the goofy, "Uh, yeah, we eat it with everything" act. It certainly was new to him. What he did not do was go home that day thinking, "Somalis are low-class people who put bananas on everything."
There is nothing wrong with eating a banana with bariis, I used to do that years ago. Just don't clown out in front of ajnabis when you present what we eat. Have some self-respect, please. People only treat you based on how you allow them to. If you guard your culture, no one will ever disrespect you. People have wild practices around the world. On the other hand, we, who, in my opinion, have a nice culture, somehow have less respect for ours.
Some of you might say, "Man, you're taking this way too seriously." That is the problem. Be easy-going. However, sometimes you should be serious. Otherwise, you will struggle to get respect. Trust me. Somalis need it more than ever since our culture took a backseat as people associated us with war and turmoil. Is it really wise to rob ourselves of a good cultural introduction when we have the power to do ourselves some justice and add some well-deserved credit?
The reason why people respect foreign food is because they vicariously respect the preciousness imbued by the people the food belongs to, adding that to the equation. Sushi. Essentially, raw fish on rice is loved because we see how they make it, and how it is represented. Very simple and neat. I promise you, if we invented sushi, we would have goofed out and people would have made it a spectacle... That dude on the shorts would have had a raw fish in his hand and smacked it on the hands of the other and said, "I am Somali."
Unimpressive things in Japan get hype because the Japanese, themselves, appreciate their mundane things to the next level. So you almost want to join in that appreciation. This is not only cultural capital, it is cultural education.
There is a concept called 'Kodawari' in Japan that gives you an idea of how committed these guys are to perfecting their living in simple ways that enrich their cultural practice:
Now, personally, I think the Japanese can be narrow-minded, stuck up, and haughty at times (you never hear this from people: I think this is the case, and that is why they think their shit don't stink), but I think we've got to increase the seriousness a couple of notches and practice the respectability more. Loving ourselves (the healthy kind, not the arrogant one that is expressed by people on this forum so much) means more than just saying "I love our culture" and waving this or that flag, etc., and being an internet hyper-nationalist dweeb.
This thread started off as a joke. I really did not intend to make this a lecture. Yet, I had these underlying sentiments, and I think it is a good time as ever to talk about this. I'm not the most culturally enriched Somali by a long stretch, and neither am I a crazy individual who can't take it easy (life is too short to be grumpy all the time). That does not mean we can't pedestalize an idealized 'class' in a Somali way. Even if none of us lives up to it, there have to be an ideal; cultural archetypes (for lack of better words) that one strives to practice, protect, and express, no matter how trivial. This is primarily not for the eyes of the ajnabi. First, it is for ourselves as it needs to seep into our ways more, and secondly, it is good to externalize your good traits and what you value down to the minute things. This not only garners influence on the world but it also is good for identity building and maintenance. Somalis' soft power could be immense, and I mean this in a serious way, not the "if we invaded half of East Africa and became overlords nonsense hypotheticals. We already have a very big influence in many ways. Imagine if we refined our cultural prospects.
There is a reason why Balkans are like this in essentially similar food:
These are people who love their culture, if you see past the comedic hyperbole.
I am sorry, you thought you would get a thread without me piling text on you. That did not happen today. I appreciate that you picked up the reading glasses in what was essentially 3 word a 3-word-a-post type of thread. Much love and best regards from yours truly.
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Garaad Awal
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I am sorry, you thought you would get a thread without me piling text on you. That did not happen today. I appreciate that you picked up the reading glasses in what was essentially 3 word a 3-word-a-post type of thread. Much love and best regards from yours truly.
I kept reading all of that thinking, "Is this ninja really writing one of his big brain essays over a thread like this?"
A genuine person would have bought the food, gone home, and then added a banana, if that was something they liked. This is weird self-depcriating, "please associate me with the stereotype" nonsense. It's a wrong form of attention-seeking. No one asked him if he was Somali, still, he had to mention it because, of course, Somalis and bananas naturally go together (pause). You're begigng being the butt of the joke at that point and making us seem like banana is the main ingredient in every dish like the comment under you showing how an Afgahni guy says "Somali food" with it only being a bana on the side of Afghani food.
It's cultural mockery based on misrepresentation, and it is the Somalis' fault. I made a thread last year showing how a restaurant owner saw a customer mix in banana, like mushing it in a dish we don't eat with the fruit, ruining the dish, and the owner said, "Yes," lying, when the customer asked, "Is this how you eat it?" Some Somalis like creating unnecessary spectacles, forcing culture shocks that don't exist. This ruins our cultural integrity. You can't brand your dishes if people automatically think banana when someone says, "Have you eaten Somali food?" Other countries and cultures are very particular in representing their food right. Because they want to control their cultural capital. It's very important to guard your culture and exercise the definitional power in the right direction. People have genuinely quirky things in their foods. Like Thailand eats tarantulas, Congolese eat insects, Xabash eat raw meat... You never hear stereotypes being made about them because they don't clown out every time inquiries about their food are mentioned. Somalis make very nice food; that does not stop them from pretending they add banana to everything, even coffee.
We invited some people over to eat dinner in Egypt. I ate a banana with my bariis. The guy said, "You guys eat it with your dish, we eat it after." The guy did not act surprised, and neither did I do the goofy, "Uh, yeah, we eat it with everything" act. It certainly was new to him. What he did not do was go home that day thinking, "Somalis are low-class people who put bananas on everything."
There is nothing wrong with eating a banana with bariis, I used to do that years ago. Just don't clown out in front of ajnabis when you present what we eat. Have some self-respect, please. People only treat you based on how you allow them to. If you guard your culture, no one will ever disrespect you. People have wild practices around the world. On the other hand, we, who, in my opinion, have a nice culture, somehow have less respect for ours.
Some of you might say, "Man, you're taking this way too seriously." That is the problem. Be easy-going. However, sometimes you should be serious. Otherwise, you will struggle to get respect. Trust me. Somalis need it more than ever since our culture took a backseat as people associated us with war and turmoil. Is it really wise to rob ourselves of a good cultural introduction when we have the power to do ourselves some justice and add some well-deserved credit?
The reason why people respect foreign food is because they vicariously respect the preciousness imbued by the people the food belongs to, adding that to the equation. Sushi. Essentially, raw fish on rice is loved because we see how they make it, and how it is represented. Very simple and neat. I promise you, if we invented sushi, we would have goofed out and people would have made it a spectacle... That dude on the shorts would have had a raw fish in his hand and smacked it on the hands of the other and said, "I am Somali."
Unimpressive things in Japan get hype because the Japanese, themselves, appreciate their mundane things to the next level. So you almost want to join in that appreciation. This is not only cultural capital, it is cultural education.
There is a concept called 'Kodawari' in Japan that gives you an idea of how committed these guys are to perfecting their living in simple ways that enrich their cultural practice:
Now, personally, I think the Japanese can be narrow-minded, stuck up, and haughty at times (you never hear this from people: I think this is the case, and that is why they think their shit don't stink), but I think we've got to increase the seriousness a couple of notches and practice the respectability more. Loving ourselves (the healthy kind, not the arrogant one that is expressed by people on this forum so much) means more than just saying "I love our culture" and waving this or that flag, etc., and being an internet hyper-nationalist dweeb.
This thread started off as a joke. I really did not intend to make this a lecture. Yet, I had these underlying sentiments, and I think it is a good time as ever to talk about this. I'm not the most culturally enriched Somali by a long stretch, and neither am I a crazy individual who can't take it easy (life is too short to be grumpy all the time). That does not mean we can't pedestalize an idealized 'class' in a Somali way. Even if none of us lives up to it, there have to be an ideal; cultural archetypes (for lack of better words) that one strives to practice, protect, and express, no matter how trivial. This is not for the eyes of the ajnabi. First, it is for ourselves as it needs to seep into our ways more, and secondly, it is good to externalize your good traits and what you value down to the minute things. This not only garners influence on the world but it also is good for identity building and maintenance. Somalis' soft power could be immense, and I mean this in a serious way, not the "if we invaded half of East Africa and became overlords nonsense hypotheticals. We already have a very big influence in many ways. Imagine if we refined our cultural prospects.
There is a reason why Balkans are like this in essentially similar food:
These are people who love their culture, if you see past the comedic hyperbole.
I am sorry, you thought you would get a thread without me piling text on you. That did not happen today. I appreciate that you picked up the reading glasses in what was essentially 3 word a 3-word-a-post type of thread. Much love and best regards from yours truly.
On a more serious note, I always enjoyed the work of the Xawaaash channel on YouTube back in the day:
Xawaash FoodBlog
We are a husband and wife team... Both of us were born in beautiful Somalia. We live in Canada, our adopted homeland. We like travelling, photography and food. We love food, but we don't live to eat. Nor do we eat to live. We live in between. We love to cook and entertain. And we like to...
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They really tried to take modern Somali food with all of its native, Arab, Indian, Italian and other elements and basically standardize and sort of "chic-ize" it. Was pretty cool to watch.
Sadly the adheer and eedo behind it fell off from posting like half a decade ago. Would be nice to see someone revive something like this.
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No ur not. I wanted to point this out earlier. Almost every Somali person you see on the internet whole personality is about being Somali lol. No creativity or individuality, just corny jokes about their nationality.
Side note: If any of yโall know a recent Somali content creator who doesnโt make his content about being Somali please let me know I need to check that person out
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Most of those Beta Squad Somalis and those in that universe barely mention their ethnicity or their homeland (except May 18 for Chunkz & Sharky)No ur not. I wanted to point this out earlier. Almost every Somali person you see on the internet whole personality is about being Somali lol. No creativity or individuality, just corny jokes about their nationality.
Side note: If any of yโall know a recent Somali content creator who doesnโt make his content about being Somali please let me know I need to check that person out
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