Greatest African countries of all time

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Tunisia should be the 2, since it once tired to conquer Rome, and it was about to do it.

The glories of Carthage belongs to the Lebanese/Phoenician people, since they were the small minority ruling elite who ran the City-state.

 

[Marcus]

People conflate what western (typically atheist) migrants think with what happens in their native lands. That's like taking the word of Persians in Los Angeles on what happens in Iran.

 

[Octavian]

and how would that even work u would have update a f*ck ton to make it useable

 

[Juke]

The glories of Carthage belongs to the Lebanese/Phoenician people, since they were the small minority ruling elite who ran the City-state.

Carthage was more than a city-state, it became an empire that stretched from Spain to Sardinia to Cyprus

 

[Marcus]

The glories of Carthage belongs to the Lebanese/Phoenician people, since they were the small minority ruling elite who ran the City-state.

'Lebanese' people aren't even native to Lebanon. Lebanon is a fake country created by the French to serve as a Christian enclave in Arabia.

 

[Juke]

Lebanese people aren't even native to Lebanon. Lebanon is a fake country created by the French to serve as a Christian enclave in Arabian.

It's not a fake country, it overlaps most of old Phoenician territory in the levant.

 

[Octavian]

and lets say that they did the liberals would most likely use it revive the practice of the ancient religion or if they fell imperial they might try to expand as most of they country is empty sand

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

'Lebanese' people aren't even native to Lebanon. Lebanon is a fake country created by the French to serve as a Christian enclave in Arabia.

Lebanese people are direct descendants of Phoenicians. On top of that, modern Lebanese territory largely overlaps Ancient Phoenician territory.

 

[Octavian]

Lebanese people are their direct descendants. On top of that modern Lebanese territory largely overlaps Ancient Phoenician territory.

if they don't control or even speak the language then they should get on that or simply call them selfs what the rest of us calls them liberal forest ayrabs

 

[Marcus]

Lebanese people are direct descendants of Phoenicians. On top of that, modern Lebanese territory largely overlaps Ancient Phoenician territory.

It's not a fake country, it overlaps most of old Phoenician territory in the levant.

I don't want to go into a debate, but that's largely debatable

"Historian Kamal Salibi, a Lebanese Protestant Christian, says: "between ancient Phoenicia and the Lebanon of medieval and modern times, there is no demonstrable historical connection". Phoenicianism embraces Phoenicia as an alternative cultural foundation by overlooking 850 years of Arabisation."

It's a story we see all over the Arab world.

 

[Juke]

I don't want to go into a debate, but that's largely debatable

"Historian Kamal Salibi, a Lebanese Protestant Christian, says: "between ancient Phoenicia and the Lebanon of medieval and modern times, there is no demonstrable historical connection". Phoenicianism embraces Phoenicia as an alternative cultural foundation by overlooking 850 years of Arabisation."

It's a story we see all over the Arab world.

I mean Syrians, Lebanese, Moroccans, etc. aren't Arabian. We know this. It's true no matter what the political motivations were for such movements.

 

[Marcus]

I mean Syrians, Lebanese, Moroccans aren't Arabian. We know this. It's true no matter what the political motivations were.

So the muslims ruled over them for millenia but didnt mix?

 

[Juke]

So the muslims ruled over them for millenia but didnt mix?

Correct, there was assimilation, linguistic shift, conversion.

Most of the Levant (Palestine, Syria, Lebanon) was christian and Aramaic speaking until the 1400s.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

So the muslims ruled over them for millenia but didnt mix?

Pretty much. There was no large scale mixing or population replacements occurring, everyone stuck to their people & desired for their ethnic group to remain the majority in their homeland.

Only large scale conversions & language shifts happened.

 

[Ayaanle__]

Somalia is number one

 

[celidheere]

1. Egypt
2. Ethiopia
3. Mali
4. Morocco

 

[Octavian]

The great central african empire

 

[Octavian]

Biafran republic

 

[Octavian]

Sealand

 

[Marquis]

I thought Algeria/Tunisia/Morocco were under the same kingdoms and empires

Main difference is that the Moroccans where never colonized by the Ottomans and established independent Empires like the Wattasid, Saadi and Alaouite. Also the core areas/capitals of the Almoravid and Almohad where the Moroccan area.

Here is the Saadi Empire: