Growth of Kismayo over the past 3 years

[nine]

@Shaolin23 think of Kismayo as a Harti village. It is our deegaan and it just so happened that it became the largest city in Juboyinka. Marehan started to live in Kismayo in the 50s and in big numbers in the 70s. But it never was a Marehan city. It has always been a shared city. Before it was shared between MZ and Harti, and now it shared by everyone who lives in Jubaland. No one can ever have an exclusive claim to Kismayo and no one's claims can supersede the claim of others.

Any clan based claim to Kismayo will take us back to the era when the city changed hands every couple of months.

It became Mareexaan in the 2000s

Snippets from the book "The Darod Invasion"

 

[Yonis]

@Shaolin23 think of Kismayo as a Harti village. It is our deegaan and it just so happened that it became the largest city in Juboyinka. Marehan started to live in Kismayo in the 50s and in big numbers in the 70s. But it never was a Marehan city. It has always been a shared city. Before it was shared between MZ and Harti, and now it shared by everyone who lives in Jubaland. No one can ever have an exclusive claim to Kismayo and no one's claims can supersede the claim of others.

Any clan based claim to Kismayo will take us back to the era when the city changed hands every couple of months.

So after Harti settled kismaayo and made it their home, it became the large city in jubooyinka?

Everything we touch turns to Gold

 

[GBTarmy]

So after Harti settled kismaayo and made it their home, it became the large city in jubooyinka?

Everything we touch turns to Gold

I heard Harti is building another town in coastal jubaland. I think that town will grow as well.

 

[nine]

I heard Harti is building another town in coastal jubaland. I think that town will grow as well.

Harti or Majeerteen? At least don't hide behind Harti

 

[GBTarmy]

Harti or Majeerteen? At least don't hide behind Harti

whats your problem with mj lol? and yes harti not only Mj even leelkase. Puntite clans building up a town in coastal jubaland.

 

[Yonis]

Harti or Majeerteen? At least don't hide behind Harti

We say Harti because Ali Geri (Dhulbahante) & Cumar and Dubeys (Warsangeli) along with Majerteen (mainly ciise mahamoud & ali saleeban) business class and people there collectively known as Harti, they're the economic backbone of the city. So yes Harti would be more appropriate.

 

[nine]

whats your problem with mj lol? and yes harti not only Mj even leelkase. Puntite clans building up a town in coastal jubaland.

So Leelkase is Harti now?

We say Harti because Ali Geri (Dhulbahante) & Cumar and Dubeys (Warsangeli) along with Majerteen (mainly ciise mahamoud & ali saleeban) business class and people there collectively known as Harti, they're the economic backbone of the city. So yes Harti would be more appropriate.

 

[GBTarmy]

So Leelkase is Harti now?

I said even leelkase as in they are in it too and not only harti. Puntite clans coming together, now thats what yall need to do instead of barbaric tribal fighting between relatives.

 

[Shaolin23]

@Shaolin23 think of Kismayo as a Harti village. It is our deegaan and it just so happened that it became the largest city in Juboyinka. Marehan started to live in Kismayo in the 50s and in big numbers in the 70s. But it never was a Marehan city. It has always been a shared city. Before it was shared between MZ and Harti, and now it shared by everyone who lives in Jubaland. No one can ever have an exclusive claim to Kismayo and no one's claims can supersede the claim of others.

Any clan based claim to Kismayo will take us back to the era when the city changed hands every couple of months.

A wise MX would never claim Kismayo its mini Xamar no one can claim it tribally you seem like a guy who is reasonable so you would know MX are the best neighbors and residents of JL but when people trample on our rights there’s going to be a problem we’re a big clan in JL and we need our share of the pie if Kismayo is going to progress we need genuine reconciliation as JLers we must address some important issues on our side is why JL only confined to Kismayo isnt Gedo apart of JL too why does on clan reap all the benefits of Kismayo and the JL administration while the other is fighting and dying for the JL flag against Shabab but gets nothing in return Madoobe is playing a zero sum game he is just as bad as Hiiraale if not worse he’s just bringing back clan warlord politics we were supposed to have moved on from

 

[Ras]

Confused here.

Are MJ's and OGs traditional allies in JL or are MJ's trying to cause a wedge between the historical relationship between MX & OGs?

 

[World]

Harti or Majeerteen? At least don't hide behind Harti

The Ugaas of Hartiga Waamo has always been Dhulbahante. We are united under Harti in Jubbaland, not MJ or Dhulo.

 

[Yonis]

Confused here.

Are MJ's and OGs traditional allies in JL or are MJ's trying to cause a wedge between the historical relationship between MX & OGs?

The former. And the "historic relationship" is between Harti and OGs

 

[nine]

The Ugaas of Hartiga Waamo has always been Dhulbahante. We are united under Harti in Jubbaland, not MJ or Dhulo.

I understand you gotta do what you gotta do especially as a Dhulo in JL when Hyenas outnumber you

 

[Ras]

The former. And the "historic relationship" is between Harti and OGs

So the only link between MX & OGs is during the Kacaan period?

Are OGs united in Kismayo or is it just a single subclan in the city?

 

[nine]

So the only link between MX & OGs is during the Kacaan period?

Are OGs united in Kismayo or is it just a single subclan in the city?

The ones currently populating the city the vast majority are from K5 (inb4 someone says they were there in 1864). It would be better if they were from Afmadow

 

[Shaolin23]

So the only link between MX & OGs is during the Kacaan period?

Are OGs united in Kismayo or is it just a single subclan in the city?

MX and OG are also longtime historical neighbors in Ethiopia and Somalia

 

[Ras]

The ones currently populating the city the vast majority are from K5 (inb4 someone says they were there in 1864). It would be better if they were from Afmadow

What subclans are they? Also who controls Goobweyn?

 

[nine]

What subclans are they? Also who controls Goobweyn?

Don't care about their sub clans
Marehan controls Goobweyn

 

[Ras]

MX and OG are also longtime historical neighbors in Ethiopia and Somalia

So two conflicting answers. Why did I even bother to ask this on qabilspot.

 

[nomand]

When it comes to the south all of darood is united against Marehan and we still win, politically Madoobe has lost. Militarily he is there because of Kenya.

Madoobe was the last dice of kablalax and it failed. 5 years and he still in kismaayo and surrounded at every angle. no progress whatsoever.

elections is soon in Kismaayo Madoobe can either allow a fair and free election and lose or extend his presidency and start a war and this time Kenya will not get involved.