Guy arrested for talking about somali history.

[Midas]

So I've seen this professor shucayb guys videos on tiktok before. Some of it is pseudohistory. But what's wild is that he was refuting arabs claiming some part of mogadihsu and apparently they somehow got him arrested



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[Midas]

Apparently he posted a video of him at one of these ancient graves around mogadishu and one of greaves belonged to famous Arab tribe and he implied the inscription was proof that this tribe was of Jewish origin. Poor oday he had no clue that adding arab subtitles to his video meant that they'd be able to track him down.
@Idilinaa @NidarNidar @Emir of Zayla

 

[Dooyo]

There aren’t random, powerful Arabs running around Muqdisho capable of arresting Somali citizens. The people who had him arrested probably didn’t need the Arabic subtitles… because they now basically Somali.

Hanan Channel pushing her anti Ayrab narrative. The old professor claimed that there was Yahuud who have infiltrated Somali people, and listed off some Reer Xamar tribes. I’m guessing they took offense and called for his arrest.

 

[Idilinaa]

I've seen a few of her videos she is crazy in the head or going to some identity crisis. So i would ignore her, she and that old man

I remember this one reer xamar guy was roasting that Professor Shuhayb ''Niin odaay oo daalan bal meesha soo saraan'' and in the video he was reacting to that old man was just straight up talking nonsense ''Fircoon waa Somali'' ''Nebey suleyman waa Somaali'' , stuff like Somalis come from Tamils.

 

[Midas]

There aren’t random, powerful Arabs running around Muqdisho capable of arresting Somali citizens. The people who had him arrested probably didn’t need the Arabic subtitles… because they now basically Somali.

Hanan Channel pushing her anti Ayrab narrative. The old professor claimed that there was Yahuud who have infiltrated Somali people, and listed off some Reer Xamar tribes. I’m guessing they took offense and called for his arrest

I don't think you watched the full clip. She added the video they arrest him for. You can clearly tell there are arab subtitles at the bottom. Also no offense but rer xamar have no influence let alone enough to get this oday arrested. But you know who does ? All the rich arabs who occasionally come to mogadishu. There were omanis there just a few months ago and some rer xamar imam telling them this was their city and that their ancestors built it.


Also hanan while some of what she says is pseudohistory. She never insults arabs all she does is expose some of them who talk shit about somalis by translating what they said (Mainly yemenis)

 

[Midas]

I've seen a few of her videos she is crazy in the head or going to some identity crisis. So i would ignore her, she and that old man

I remember this one reer xamar guy was roasting that Professor Shuhayb ''Niin odaay oo daalan bal meesha soo saraan'' and in the video he was reacting to that old man was just straight up talking nonsense ''Fircoon waa Somali'' ''Nebey suleyman waa Somaali'' , stuff like Somalis come from Tamils.

Yes the oday mainly peddles psueod history. But isn't it weird the oday got arrested? In somalia of all places when he didn't say anything about a major qabil or islam?

 

[Idilinaa]

Yes the oday mainly peddles psueod history. But isn't it weird the oday got arrested? In somalia of all places when he didn't say anything about a major qabil or islam?

I am not really sure about how Somalia legal system works because of the lack of transparency, but i don't think you can incite qabil hate or they have some sort of false speech pretense they arrest people under.

I have seen headlines of the government just constantly arresting journalists

Somali security agents arrest journalist in night-time raid

Abduqadir Mohamed Nur’s detention is latest attack on press freedom for critical reporting on regime, media union says

www.theguardian.com

A Somali journalist was abducted from his home by intelligence agents early on Friday, according to press freedom campaigners.
The journalists’ union Somali Journalists Syndicate (SJS) said the detention of Abduqadir Mohamed Nur was a “brazen attack” on the reporter and his news outlet, Risaala Media Corporation, for critical reporting of state security forces.

It said that this followed the arrest of other Risaala employees, who have reported critically on the security forces under President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. The arrest threatened the press and the public’s access to independent reporting, it said.

The Guardian reported that the journalist AliNur Salaad had been arrested in July after similar reporting on the security forces and there have been several claims of attacks on press freedom since.

So we shouldn't be too surprised. Anything else is probably just some rubbish conspiracy that Hanan girl is peddling.

 

[Dooyo]

I don't think you watched the full clip. She added the video they arrest him for. You can clearly tell there are arab subtitles at the bottom. Also no offense but rer xamar have no influence let alone enough to get this oday arrested. But you know who does ? All the rich arabs who occasionally come to mogadishu. There were omanis there just a few months ago and some rer xamar imam telling them this was their city and that their ancestors built it.


Also hanan while some of what she says is pseudohistory. She never insults arabs all she does is expose some of them who talk shit about somalis by translating what they said (Mainly yemenis)

I watched the entire video and saw the subtitles. My point is that those who had him arrested didn’t need the subtitles, as they are mostly Somali citizens.

I wouldn’t underestimate the Reer Xamari community. In all of Somalia, all you need is money to lock someone up and keep them locked up for as long as you’d like. The Reer Xamar community are very wealthy.

Hanan doesn’t necessarily straight up insult Arabs, but she has made some inflammatory comments about them in the past. She’s definitely in the anti Ayrab crew of pseudo historians.

 

[Midas]

I am not really sure about how Somalia legal system works because of the lack of transparency, but i don't think you can incite qabil hate or they have some sort of false speech pretense they arrest people under.

I have seen headlines of the government just constantly arresting journalists

Somali security agents arrest journalist in night-time raid

Abduqadir Mohamed Nur’s detention is latest attack on press freedom for critical reporting on regime, media union says

www.theguardian.com

So we shouldn't be too surprised. Anything else is probably just some rubbish conspiracy that Hanan girl is peddling.

I was a bit suspicious at first. But after the voice recording of him saying theirs men at his door and then her posting the video. Im willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Keep in mind you've got a lot of arabs from the gulf and oman always in somalia. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody took offense to what he said

 

[Midas]

I watched the entire video and saw the subtitles. My point is that those who had him arrested didn’t need the subtitles, as they are mostly Somali citizens.

I wouldn’t underestimate the Reer Xamari community. In all of Somalia, all you need is money to lock someone up and keep them locked up for as long as you’d like. The Reer Xamar community are very wealthy.

Hanan doesn’t necessarily straight up insult Arabs, but she has made some inflammatory comments about them in the past. She’s definitely in the anti Ayrab crew of pseudo historians.

She's a pseudo historian for sure a pretty crazy one at that. But I've never seen her insult arabs. You have a lot of somalis who have no idea how much they get shit talked . From what I've seen it's mainly ana arab people who get mat abouther posting clips from arab social media. Also if you ever seen the rer xamar on social media and YouTube they love to basically somalis nomadic savages that they civilized.