Harsh?

"They will use it to promote Tribalism,Ethnicity,Bigotry,Hatred,Killings and Wars".

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Cadaanka love to project their moral shortcomings onto Africans. Just open any history books these folks have been behind damn near every misfortune and misery for the last 500-600 years.
Africans had civilizations and functional societies for centuries, then white people crossed the oceans and seas talking about they came to 'teach' us democracy as if we needed that shit. FOH
 

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It's hilarious to think that the peoples of the Mediterranean basically talked about them the exact same way. To the Greco-Romans and the Arabs northern Europeans were simple, brutish barbarians who "to their credit" made for good soldiers.

But at least the Romans actually slowly integrated barbarian peoples into the Roman culture and world after brutalizing and conquering them. Faransiis and British niggas will literally try to genocide you and frame it as a "civilizing" exercise.

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It's hilarious to think that the peoples of the Mediterranean basically talked about them the exact same way. To the Greco-Romans and the Arabs northern Europeans were simple, british barbarians who "to their credit" made for good soldiers.

But at least the Romans actually slowly integrated barbarian peoples into the Roman culture and world after brutalizing and conquering them. Faransiis and British niggas will literally try to genocide you and frame it as a "civilizing" exercise.

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They let them rise through the military ranks and sat back on their asses having buffets and drinking wine until they took over too.
 

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They let them rise through the military ranks and sat back on their asses having buffets and drinking wine until they took over too.

Rome was low-key very strangely socially mobile despite in essence being a slave state. I should say "ethnically mobile", more like. I was often surprised when I first began to read about the empire when I was a teenager and I'd notice how many Emperors were not from Italy. Hispanians, Numidians, Dacians, Illyrians, Anatolians and even an Arab were all at various points the Emperor.

This would be like the British Empire at various points, if it existed long enough, having Gujarati, Bengali, Arab, Somali, Cherokee, or Australian Aboriginal Kings. Can you imagine it? Cos I can't. To their credit, the Greco-Romans were fixated on the idea of cultural superiority and believed you could basically "civilize" any barbarian people outside their culture so they were ultimately open ish to you once you were inside that culture.
 


He's wrong about it being about the brain and mental capacity; it's Black culture.
i mean yes democracy is a western concept so you'll need western ideals when trying to implement i know this sounds controversial but its true the only thing is whites constantly undermine this ability to happen, westerners don't care if you practice their ideals they're goal is to subjugate the global south by any means possible.
 

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i mean yes democracy is a western concept so you'll need western ideals when trying to implement i know this sounds controversial but its true the only thing is whites constantly undermine this ability to happen, westerners don't care if you practice their ideals they're goal is to subjugate the global south by any means possible.

The idea that it's a western concept is nonsense. You find council and republic-like rule in many cultures across the world. Our own ancestors maintained what was called "Guurti" in both the north and south. This was how the Banaadir ports were administered, for example. Yes, there were at times a main Sultan but that Sultan was placed there by and many of the decisions were made through a council plucked from among all the tribes settled in the towns. Usually elders but essentially elders who were respected among the men of the tribe and gathered the support to be the tribe's council representative.

Ancient Greek type democracy, which is what modern cadaan "democracy" was modelled after, existed in various forms all over the world. There's a reason Arabs have a bloody word for "Republic" (Jamhuriya) that we use in our own language.
 
The idea that it's a western concept is nonsense. You find council and republic-like rule in many cultures across the world. Our own ancestors maintained what was called "Guurti" in both the north and south. This was how the Banaadir ports were administered, for example. Yes, there were at times a main Sultan but that Sultan was placed there by and many of the decisions were made through a council plucked from among all the tribes settled in the towns. Usually elders but essentially elders who were respected among the men of the tribe and gathered the support to be the tribe's council representative.

Ancient Greek type democracy, which is what modern cadaan "democracy" was modelled after, existed in various forms all over the world. There's a reason Arabs have a bloody word for "Republic" (Jamhuriya) that we use in our own language.
I apologise walaal I meant in the context of contemporary society of course we had democratic tendencies in line with our culture
 

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I apologise walaal I meant in the context of contemporary society of course we had democratic tendencies in line with our culture

Your analysis was otherwise on point, though, I would say. They really don't remotely care about spreading democracy. "We are spreading democracy!" The cadaan elite says while some of his closest allies are nearly all of the few monarchies still remaining on Earth.

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It's hilarious to think that the peoples of the Mediterranean basically talked about them the exact same way. To the Greco-Romans and the Arabs northern Europeans were simple, british barbarians who "to their credit" made for good soldiers.

But at least the Romans actually slowly integrated barbarian peoples into the Roman culture and world after brutalizing and conquering them. Faransiis and British niggas will literally try to genocide you and frame it as a "civilizing" exercise.

:deadpeter:
Cassius Dio (c. 165 – c. 235) speaks of Severus' campaign in northern Britain and the people that inhabit it:

"There are two principal races of the Britons, the Caledonians and the Maeatae, and the names of the others have been merged in these two. The Maeatae live next to the cross-wall which cuts the island in half, and the Caledonians are beyond them. Both tribes inhabit wild and waterless mountains and desolate and swampy plains, and possess neither walls, cities, nor tilled fields, but live on their flocks, wild game, and certain fruits...They dwell in tents, naked and unshod, possess their women in common, and in common rear all the offspring. Their form of rule is democratic for the most part, and they are very fond of plundering; consequently they choose their boldest men as rulers....They can endure hunger and cold and any kind of hardship; for they plunge into the swamps and exist there for many days with only their heads above water, and in the forests they support themselves upon bark and roots, and for all emergencies they prepare a certain kind of food, the eating of a small portion of which, the size of a bean, prevents them from feeling either hunger or thirst" (LXXVII.12.1-4).​
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You don't see these statements in modern history books, but I will let you contrast this to what the British were doing much later on across the world. The Romans had far more bizarre remarks for their perceptions of them too, but I've chosen to keep this PG.......
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Cassius Dio (c. 165 – c. 235) speaks of Severus' campaign in northern Britain and the people that inhabit it:

"There are two principal races of the Britons, the Caledonians and the Maeatae, and the names of the others have been merged in these two. The Maeatae live next to the cross-wall which cuts the island in half, and the Caledonians are beyond them. Both tribes inhabit wild and waterless mountains and desolate and swampy plains, and possess neither walls, cities, nor tilled fields, but live on their flocks, wild game, and certain fruits...They dwell in tents, naked and unshod, possess their women in common, and in common rear all the offspring. Their form of rule is democratic for the most part, and they are very fond of plundering; consequently they choose their boldest men as rulers....They can endure hunger and cold and any kind of hardship; for they plunge into the swamps and exist there for many days with only their heads above water, and in the forests they support themselves upon bark and roots, and for all emergencies they prepare a certain kind of food, the eating of a small portion of which, the size of a bean, prevents them from feeling either hunger or thirst" (LXXVII.12.1-4).​

You don't see these statements in modern history books, but I will let you contrast this to what the British were doing much later on across the world. The Romans had far more bizarre remarks for their perceptions of them too, but I've chosen to keep this PG.......
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Hahahahshshahhahahshs! Cassius had me following along until the swamp swimming part. For many days kulaha.

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