Have you noticed that Somaliland is being featured in more maps?

fais

fais

Diaspora ambassador said:
Somaliland only exist because somalia has fallen once it rises back up no fms or break away region will disrespect our national security. And i hope it will happen soon for the sake of our young population.
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Somalia is welcome to try and subjugate Somaliland again - the 30 years of horror, it is undergoing now, will be nothing compared to when we open the gates of hell on them.

Not everyone is onboard hence why villa hargeisa needs to bribe some tribal leaders to keep certain territories in line.
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If you really think that is what keeping Somaliland together you are in for a surprise. :pachah1:

By having an relationship with taiwan you guys already fucked it up. China has veto powers in the un. Which means you can only now become an independent sovereign nation if you can bargain with them and they already have an historic alliance with xamar.
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An african country can get this out of a relationship from Taiwan and China.

China = Debt-trap diplomacy.

Taiwan = development/win-win/learn a man to fish and he will feed himself.

The chain effect is logical. Africa is filled with ethnic tribes that are split in two nations or more. Nigeria is an great example. The "mombasa republic" is another example.
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If that was the case, why did it not happen when South Sudan seceded from Sudan? it even when against the African Union charter on borders.
 
Periplus

Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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Let's get some facts straight:
  • Somaliland will never achieve recognition unless Somalia gives its blessing (referendum etc). That's why Catalonia will not become independent in the near future (Spain does not approve).

  • Secondly, Somaliland is put as a disputed territory on the Nat Geo maps not a country. Even the internationally recognised Somali-Ethiopian border which is accepted by both Farmaajo and Ethiopia, is put as a disputed demarcation. Further, the name Somaliland is not put in bold as opposed to other nations or even the Ogaden region.

  • The main reason why Somaliland is put as a separate area on maps is because it's a nation in all but name due to the instability of its parent nation. Also, it is a much different situation in Somaliland than Somalia for many indicators, hence the need to make a difference between the two entities.

  • At the end of the day, the IC will never give ictiraaf or give SL back to the FGS. The matter will be decided in good faith negotiations with elected representatives of both a stable and peaceful government in SL and Somalia proper.

Now go enjoy your FKD guys.

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ZodiaK

ZodiaK

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Macalin dheerow

Macalin dheerow

Somaliland leadership f*cked up, the chance for Somaliland independence was in during 2000-2017, when Somalia was in its weakest point. Step by step, lands south of Puntland are getting rid of Al-kebab. Galmudug is getting rid of Al-shabaab in this year and Inshallah the rest of Koonfuur in the next few years.

Bombings have dramatically decreased in Muqdisho and the city is developing quickly.


The bad SL leadership instead have sat on their asses and done nothing for the cause. Zero advancement in recognizion. The independence will not happen with current leadership and the quality of future leaders remain the same.

Only way I see SL getting independence is if they become geopolitcally relevant, as in they have a major power as an ally. This is the only way now.
 
Dharbaaxo Jin

Dharbaaxo Jin

Macalin dheerow said:
Somaliland leadership f*cked up, the chance for Somaliland independence was in during 2000-2017, when Somalia was in its weakest point. Step by step, lands south of Puntland are getting rid of Al-kebab. Galmudug is getting rid of Al-shabaab in this year and Inshallah the rest of Koonfuur in the next few years.

Bombings have dramatically decreased in Muqdisho and the city is developing quickly.


The bad SL leadership instead have sat on their asses and done nothing for the cause. Zero advancement in recognizion. The independence will not happen with current leadership and the quality of future leaders remain the same.

Only way I see SL getting independence is if they become geopolitcally relevant, as in they have a major power as an ally. This is the only way now.
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One of the most idiotic of arguments anti-SL try to spew is that Somaliland's independence is based on Somalia being a shithole.

Somaliland's independence is based on a legal case, not an environmental or a political one. You people need to read on this subject matter that so many of you write a lot of nonsense about, yet don't have the most basic of knowledge about.
 
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Gantaal97

Diaspora ambassador said:
Eritrea is an whole different situation.

And they actually went to war with the legitimate ethiopian state. Plus siad barre freed them and put tplf in power. Hence a different scenario. Somaliland is not in the same boat as Eritrea.

If somaliland wishes true sovereignty they need to lobby just like eritreans did. I mean there are blueprints how to become an independent nation. Which somaliland completely disregards so yeah
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It seems you're ignorant about Eritrea history.

EPLF/ELF were the first rebel groups that were fighting against Ethiopian regime since the start of Eritrea independence war in 1960.
EPLF is the one that founded TPLF and armed it and gave training to its fighters becoming allies against the Derg regime when the regime fell TPLF had to let go of Eritrea cuz there's nothing they can do about it when EPLF was the one that helped them and their source of armament and the whole Eritrea was under EPLF rule.
 
Dharbaaxo Jin

Dharbaaxo Jin

Gantaal97 said:
It seems you're ignorant about Eritrea history.

EPLF/ELF were the first rebel groups that were fighting against Ethiopian regime since the start of Eritrea independence war in 1960.
EPLF is the one that founded TPLF and armed it and gave training to its fighters becoming allies against the Derg regime when the regime fell TPLF had to let go of Eritrea cuz there's nothing they can do about it when EPLF was the one that helped them and their source of armament and the whole Eritrea was under EPLF rule.
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Ignore him. Everything that dude writes is ahistorical and ignorant of facts/reality.
 
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Gantaal97

Diaspora ambassador said:
What are you on about. Somaliland had a civil war after siad barre was gone. The same shit he did does villa hargeisa.

Not everyone is onboard hence why villa hargeisa needs to bribe some tribal leaders to keep certain territories in line.

The chain effect is logical. Africa is filled with ethnic tribes that are split in two nations or more. Nigeria is an great example. The "mombasa republic" is another example.

By having an relationship with taiwan you guys already fucked it up. China has veto powers in the un. Which means you can only now become an independent sovereign nation if you can bargain with them and they already have an historic alliance with xamar.

Walaal you need to look at the full picture.
It there was even a small chance of sl becoming the thrid somali country i would have been it's biggest supporter. However reality is different. They gave galbeed to ethiopia and nfd to kenya to hamper somali progress. Yet here you are begging them to make you an country. You don't beg to become an country you fight for it.

When British somaliland joined Somalia they forfeited their right to become an sovereign nation once again without support from xamar. Walaal it is not that hard. Force xamar to release it's grip on sl by war or lobbying not faking being an country. The majority of the world looks at it like why are they playing to be an country without the actual fight. And don't bring up siad barre because what he did in the south is nothing compared to what he did in the north. So once again walaal are you either fighting the sna or are you willing to come to the table. If i was in charge the conversation would have already happened and all of the fms would have been on the track of development.

Somaliland only exist because somalia has fallen once it rises back up no fms or break away region will disrespect our national security. And i hope it will happen soon for the sake of our young population.
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Somaliland civil war was solved by its people when everyone got what it wanted and frontier communities were part of Somaliland state building and peace process so the civil war you're talking about isn't the same one that existed in your Somalia.

Somaliland is a independent state with its own laws and governing and also economically independent from Xamar with its own currency and it will be delusional to let go what we have achieved for the last 30 years for a pipe dream Somaliweyn when Somalia political system was built by foreigners that put tribal system in place of actual representation and we don't want that and we were never a party of whatever political leaders in Xamar agreed on with their international community partners that built the so called Federal system
 
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