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Afwayne gave them passports and that is what gave them their independence bro🤣🤣🤣
Don't try shift the goalpost and play some sort of mental gymnastics, first you claimed it was zero and now its "only a passport". I don't know who said it was the final reason, the cause for their independence, but we did support them and was a factor in their win, but don't let it cloud the reality and history.

provided with travel documents and Somali passports, trained and given a Tigrayan radio frequency”, a former senior Somali government official told IRIN.

Trained, provided shelter with and given communication.......
 
You said "Zero" support, not the degree or level of support that Somalia provided. So thus you was wrong. Of course it wasn't the direct cause but it was still a factor, that Somalia still supported them, in training, economically and diplomatically. The Arabs and Chinese provided military support, Sudan as a base, and Somalia as a shelter. Also, both leaders lived in Somalia, under the administration of the time.
That from unkmown somali official and Afwerki or Melies Zenawi never mentioned about siad barre or being in mogadishu as Meles spent most of his rebel times in the mountains of Tigray and Rural areas in Eritrea with Afwerki
 
Don't try shift the goalpost and play some sort of mental gymnastics, first you claimed it was zero and now its "only a passport". I don't know who said it was the final reason, the cause for their independence, but we did support them and was a factor in their win, but don't let it cloud the reality and history.



Trained, provided shelter with and given communication.......
TPLF or EPLF never mentioned anything about somalia providing miliary aid or training as TPLF fighters were trained by EPLF even though tigarus don't like to admit it but the fact is EPLF is the reason why TPLF exists and they are the ones who armed them and helped them defeat derg regime
 
You said "Zero" support, not the degree or level of support that Somalia provided. So thus you was wrong. Of course it wasn't the direct cause but it was still a factor, that Somalia still supported them, in training, economically and diplomatically. The Arabs and Chinese
Don't try shift the goalpost and play some sort of mental gymnastics, first you claimed it was zero and now its "only a passport". I don't know who said it was the final reason, the cause for their independence, but we did support them and was a factor in their win, but don't let it cloud the reality and history.



Trained, provided shelter with and given communication.......




This is what I wrote:


"Dude the eritreans where fighting since 1961, what afwayne did in their struggle was just a footnote in the history of their war of independence..."

Just because you have nothing going for you, you don't have the right to claim that your afwayne had a crucial input in their war of independence that they won by sacrifice and many lives lost.

Afwayne was an imbecile, idiotic loser and his legacy is what you see in Somalia today.
 
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FBIsomalia

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Copyland thanks to Mujahadintada SNM Somaliland is the only Somali nation that held free and fair elections for the last 20 years marka iska aamus and don't bring SNM out from your mouth :stopit:
Your fraud elections will be finished next year when PL implement it. Fair election and one clan has most seats, Yeah right lool.
 
Isaaqs control Somali Wikepedia also and make up a fake history for themselves, the funniest addition is the so-called "Isaaq Sultanate" :ftw9nwa:

They also delete other people's history pages.

They will only get more toxic and desperate the longer this 'independence' charade goes on.
 
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Isaaqs also control Somali Wikepedia also and make up a fake history for themselves, the funniest addition is the so-called "Isaaq Sultanate" :ftw9nwa:

They also delete other people's history pages.

They will only get more toxic and desperate the longer this 'independence' charade goes on.

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Thegoodshepherd

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It seems you're ignorant about Eritrea history.

EPLF/ELF were the first rebel groups that were fighting against Ethiopian regime since the start of Eritrea independence war in 1960.
EPLF is the one that founded TPLF and armed it and gave training to its fighters becoming allies against the Derg regime when the regime fell TPLF had to let go of Eritrea cuz there's nothing they can do about it when EPLF was the one that helped them and their source of armament and the whole Eritrea was under EPLF rule.

Somaliland is nothing like South Sudan or Eritrea. Support for secession in northern Somalia is no where near where it was in Eritrea and South Sudan in 1993 and 2011. Eritreans voted for independence by an overwhelming 99.83% with an unbelievable turnout of 99%. South Sudan voted for independence by 99% with a turnout of 98%.

These are not bs African election numbers, this carefully monitored referenda, where Ethiopia and Sudan had observers in every single polling station.

Somaliland never has and never will achieve that level of support from Harti, because the SNM was an explicitly clan based movement while the EPLF and the SPLA were truly national liberation fronts where Muslims and Christians, Dinka and Nuer died side by side for 40 years. No Harti has ever died side by side with an Isaaq.

:mjkkk:

The funny thing is that these referenda have turnout thresholds. In South Sudan the requirement was 60% turnout, at least 60% of voting age adults had to go to the polls for the referendum to be of any significance. In 2021, Somaliland would probably be able to clear this hurdle, but it will be an impossible one to clear in 2030 if Harti as a whole and maybe 30% of Gadabursi boycott the referendum.

Also the clock is ticking.
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Somaliland is nothing like South Sudan or Eritrea. Support for secession in northern Somalia is no where near where it was in Eritrea and South Sudan in 1993 and 2011. Eritreans voted for independence by an overwhelming 99.83% with an unbelievable turnout of 99%. South Sudan voted for independence by 99% with a turnout of 98%.

These are not bs African election numbers, this carefully monitored referenda, where Ethiopia and Sudan had observers in every single polling station.

Somaliland never has and never will achieve that level of support from Harti, because the SNM was an explicitly clan based movement while the EPLF and the SPLA were truly national liberation fronts where Muslims and Christians, Dinka and Nuer died side by side for 40 years. No Harti has ever died side by side with an Isaaq.

:mjkkk:

The funny thing is that these referenda have turnout thresholds. In South Sudan the requirement was 60% turnout, at least 60% of voting age adults had to go to the polls for the referendum to be of any significance. In 2021, Somaliland would probably be able to clear this hurdle, but it will be an impossible one to clear in 2030 if Harti as a whole and maybe 30% of Gadabursi boycott the referendum.

Also the clock is ticking.
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Get out of here with your bs demographics Sanaag is Isaaq majority and there's significant number of them in Sool orod nag tag dhabayaco :westbrookwtf:
 
Isaaqs control Somali Wikepedia also and make up a fake history for themselves, the funniest addition is the so-called "Isaaq Sultanate" :ftw9nwa:

They also delete other people's history pages.

They will only get more toxic and desperate the longer this 'independence' charade goes on.
Hmm well there's sources and footnotes about it and I think you should check that before making dumb statments dhabaycao qoorba joog lady :stopit:
 
The funny thing is that these referenda have turnout thresholds. In South Sudan the requirement was 60% turnout, at least 60% of voting age adults had to go to the polls for the referendum to be of any significance. In 2021, Somaliland would probably be able to clear this hurdle, but it will be an impossible one to clear in 2030 if Harti as a whole and maybe 30% of Gadabursi boycott the referendum.

Also the clock is ticking.

Indeed the clock is ticking. almost an entire generation of DhulHante grew up since CabdillaahiYuusuf left Migiurtinia province to help the TPLF/Amisom occupation forces in Muqdisho. An entire generation of DhulHante educated under JSL flag without the Afweyne regime's curriculum based on Daaroodism fantasies.

Stop derailing every thread with population figures based on flawed data that contradict the more reliable figures we have from colonial era to Afweyne regime. The more reliable data from Afweyne era and colonial surveys showed Migiurtinia province having the lowest populations.

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If you have patriotic intentions instead of Daaroodism fantasies, you will support PL reintegrating into former Somaali Italiana. End confederalism and unofficial secession of Migiurtinia province. Either way, Migiurtinia province will reunite with the rest of the South. Wuqooyi will also reunite all the Southern provinces reunite with Muqdisho. However reunificaiton will be based on the terms of the majority/plurality communities of the North and South, Isaaq and Irir, respectively. There will be no reunification nor separation on the terms of Daaroodism fantasies
 
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