Heavy fighting in Sanaag: Caare attacks Somaliland region ministers and military
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Hada bah ogayslabe ayu la jooga. SL kama shaqeyso. Damalka bu joogaLong-live the King.
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Jeegaan boys somaliland manta waa sacad yonis vs jeegaan, dalkana sidas ayaa loo qaybsan doona wa hadi caqli gabtane, look how he stands there as separate govt and showing u who is in charge. While all you jeegaans come with samaroon-hj-ha and he stands there and says im sacad yonis waryaa and i am all your superiors. Man if only HY joined as a whole, muse wud be shitting his pants.
Saalax Bidaar
Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
Wallee Yoonis Ismail Carre waa Rag Rag dhalay.
I think people are generally 'weaker' from burco to hargeisa side it could be due to colonialism being far stronger towards those areas then it was in sool-sanag-bari-mudug-nugal and nobody takes shit from anyone. We still know the gun is the ultimate decider and it's because we know this we keep the peace as gentleman knowing nobody can dominate nobody as we are all fuckin armed. The jeegaans tho from burco to hargeisa still have colonial policies in mind of centralizing, disarming, all that shit. It's why mogadishu is struggling with PL as we dont have the same history of colonialism and probably why u struggle with jeegaan also.
It has to be noted colonialism didn't touch anywhere from galkayo to sool to sanaag to bari, traditional mechanism is far stronger there, i would add even galgaduud. From Hiiaran tho things change alot. There is no legacy of colonialism in those states of sool-sanaag-bari-mudug-nugaal, it was always relying on its traditional mechanism.
@Saalax Bidaar it's a war between clans who had less colonialism in their territories to areas that were heavily colonized which is causing this huge conflict because we think vastly different. Decentralization is best policy for clans who didn't feel colonialism, power at the hand of their own people and districts not managed from central area or another clan district because this is traditional mechanism their used too and how their people grew up to trust.
It's not the same in colonially strong areas, the attitude is 1 hard man, 1 city, 1 clan on top of another or else they don't think inay dawlad jiri karo because waa shaqadi gumaystihi bay arki jireen kuna soo koreen waxayna moodan that's the only way to govern. Their mind-set is very heavily colonial. Which is sad because then the tribal war happened and tribes joined each other on tribal affiliation without any due consideration to their tribe did they share the same 'story' of colonialism.
That's why PL is safe in that respect as we all shared the same story of total neglect and left to our own traditional devices to survive so people are used to that. Where-as HY especially in sool-sanaag areas are similar also and also burco to some extent, it just shifts to another mind-set after hargeisa and berbera where it's all colonial thinking and policies and that could be the cause of your conflicts also. Mogadishu is exactly the same. Wax ay isdhaaman dhinacasi anigu ma arki. Centralize-Dis-arm WHICH THEY CALL SNA AND PROVIDE THEIR GUNS FOR THEM AND CAN CUT IT WHEN THEY SO WISH-THEN ITS TOTAL Control completely OF all clans is their policy AND NAMING THEIR LEADERS. This will see huge conflict from traditionally free clans like HY-HJ-MJ-DHULOS-WARSAN as it's an insult to their freedoms that their used to as a clan historically.
They simply wont accept qabil iyaga lamid ah inu dawlad uu sheegto, weliga si fican uu eeg waxay isku hayan qabiloyinka it's always colonial(centralism) vs traditional(autonomy). You see @SirLancelLord he is trying to change SL to be more fair and equitable and freedom based as he knows what his clan is like, he isnt looking to dominate them like they are with him, it comes down to his areas wasn't touched by colonials like habar awal were in hargeisa n berbera. PL is exactly similar we honestly don't care to dominate hawiye because we know inaysan waxba noqon karin by themselves and they will collapse, just u stay there oo halkasi isla jogga idinku weeye anaga noo dhaafa meelaheena si aanu uu horumarno ileen puntland waxa ka dhaxayo same story la yirahdo 'gaariwa' it was always neglected and traditional autonomy was mandatory. we can unite on that.
It's not the same in colonially strong areas, the attitude is 1 hard man, 1 city, 1 clan on top of another or else they don't think inay dawlad jiri karo because waa shaqadi gumaystihi bay arki jireen kuna soo koreen waxayna moodan that's the only way to govern. Their mind-set is very heavily colonial. Which is sad because then the tribal war happened and tribes joined each other on tribal affiliation without any due consideration to their tribe did they share the same 'story' of colonialism.
That's why PL is safe in that respect as we all shared the same story of total neglect and left to our own traditional devices to survive so people are used to that. Where-as HY especially in sool-sanaag areas are similar also and also burco to some extent, it just shifts to another mind-set after hargeisa and berbera where it's all colonial thinking and policies and that could be the cause of your conflicts also. Mogadishu is exactly the same. Wax ay isdhaaman dhinacasi anigu ma arki. Centralize-Dis-arm WHICH THEY CALL SNA AND PROVIDE THEIR GUNS FOR THEM AND CAN CUT IT WHEN THEY SO WISH-THEN ITS TOTAL Control completely OF all clans is their policy AND NAMING THEIR LEADERS. This will see huge conflict from traditionally free clans like HY-HJ-MJ-DHULOS-WARSAN as it's an insult to their freedoms that their used to as a clan historically.
They simply wont accept qabil iyaga lamid ah inu dawlad uu sheegto, weliga si fican uu eeg waxay isku hayan qabiloyinka it's always colonial(centralism) vs traditional(autonomy). You see @SirLancelLord he is trying to change SL to be more fair and equitable and freedom based as he knows what his clan is like, he isnt looking to dominate them like they are with him, it comes down to his areas wasn't touched by colonials like habar awal were in hargeisa n berbera. PL is exactly similar we honestly don't care to dominate hawiye because we know inaysan waxba noqon karin by themselves and they will collapse, just u stay there oo halkasi isla jogga idinku weeye anaga noo dhaafa meelaheena si aanu uu horumarno ileen puntland waxa ka dhaxayo same story la yirahdo 'gaariwa' it was always neglected and traditional autonomy was mandatory. we can unite on that.
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Somaliland was barely a colony, basically just a garrison for their troops to protect both ends of the Gulf of Aden. On top of being the feeder for Aden. When thousands of Italian & Somali troops took over somaliland what did the British do, just left us to fight ourselves.
We always ran thing ourselves then in 93 Borama Conference we proposed a system of government what you see today a mix between Western & Xeer but you look at the Guurti now there some backwards tribalistic cunts.
Somaliland needs lots of work to return it to its founding form, Democracy is hard for Somalis where else do Somalis actually vote in a ballot or have ever we are the first and we have to make it right so that it can be replicated in PL & Somalia.
But it's not really a democracy as the people are hungry and votes can be bought, their 68 IQ and don't think beyond their own tribe so education is lacking and rule of law is in the hands of always the previous government who can threaten who he wants after-all courts are useless and can either be bribed or removed. You need 3 key ingredients for democracy to work.
1. Rule of Law and all security institutions reliable, trusted and uncorrupted. People like Sicid Dheere controlling security in PL election
2. You need education, 68 IQ voting is like a monkey voting, he will vote for his monkey tribe not polices.
3. Wealth so they can't be bribed due to their hunger
None of that exists in SL, so it's not really a democracy, it's all staged and can be rigged however one seeks. Watch when PL does it, it will be perfectly tuned and adjusted to be the only REAL QUALITY DEMOCRACY IN THE HORN but I don't suggest them to do that now as we need the pre-requisites first because puntlanders are far more educated then somalilanders who are usually druggy types, who will buy into 30 years of aqoonsi radis, who has no critical analysis ability because education is so low they pay teachers to pass them in secondary school thats how BAD IT IS and I have report on that brother wallahi.
@SirLancelLord at the end of day if it's all so good in SL, qaxooti kuma ahateen Puntland wa hadi xaqiq loo hadlayo. Your people wouldn't be in Bosaso trying to make a living for goodness sakes. To ignore this is to ignore the realities on the ground. Puntites do not come to hargeisa for a living or to be an IDP. The only one we know is this majerten ali saleman guy that nobody knows who the f*ck he is and where he came from and he bought a hotel worth all the hotels in hargeisa combined in value because his wife is a sacad muse. We are in totally separate leagues brother.
Lol tell me when the average person is given the right to vote not some old men deciding in a room. Pl a true Democracy kulaha
Yeah Somaliland is soo know one is here there'll all in bosaaso. I'm walking in the road and haven't seen a car in years it's so quiet loool.
Looking from outside it looks like Caare has jeegan on ropes
He did a hit and run, he has nothing on the ropes . Hit and run tactics and guerilla warefare never work in Africa , that’s stuff you do in the jungle
Saalax Bidaar
Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
That is twice now.
It wasn’t hit and run. Caare and his troops with 13 technicals drove 380KM for the second time to attack and Jeegaan Did fooking nuttin
Mnshlh guul bah geri
Just look at dhulo.
SomaliMVP
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This guy is the reason Bixi was wearing a vest?
I love Caare he ain't going after shicib iyo masaakinta jeeganta in la xasuuqo, arintu waa dawladu weeye ma aha cirib tirin beelo siday uu bunbuniyan jeegaantu, ciribtirka waxaa wado jeegaan oo hub siinayso bicide inay barakiciyan sacad yonis. Yaysan uu jawaabin noocasi si shacabku ay dhahan 'caare' anagu nooma 'xumo' halka basekooda iyo 'recruitkooda' jeegaan ayaa yaranayso dhinaca ciidamadu kkkkkk and caare base will grow because jeegaantu ayaa laayn doonto 'shicibka' sida caado uu yihin, wax laga sheekayn doono ma ahee u know what jeegaan does 94-96 kkkkk
Wa inu iska dhiga inu yahay dawlada somaliland oo shacabka uu naxayo oo muse yahay warlord qabyalad dishay oo markasi muse farta hala galo qabyalad si somaliland ay arkan runta. Its already working HJ agaasime resigned.
Musow waa ki yiri aniga wax dili kara duco qadan maayo, niin noocasi inay madax ka dhigan oo awood siiyan isago sida uu hadlay 20 sano ka hor waa nacasnimo.. Mantana awodi somaliland miyaa loo geliyay si uu ka 'dhabayo' balantasi uu garhajis uu sheegay 95ki
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