Historical art of waaqoyi galbeed

I mean, I don't think anyone at this point would deny that cultures like A-Group, Khartoum-Neolithic and Butana are ancestral to Horners, especially the first one and its strong parallels with the Pastoral-Neolithic.
Academics vehemently deny it. Claude Rilly - leading Nubiologist and authority figure on all things ancient Nubian - has it that we are not ancestral to any group. Not even Butana. He goes as far as to say that we probably got our ability to farm and herd from Nilo-Saharan speakers essentially.

and then this bull gets propagated by know-it-all retards who goon to information repackaged by PhD's with agendas of their own.
It's just this new evidence bringing down the timeframe and suggesting that it's not just early A-Group but in fact even Wawat (C-Group) and Kerma that maybe ancestral to East Cushites in particular that needs some arguing for. More on that from me another time.
Looking forward to that very much!
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Waryaa, what kinda image do you have of Reer Somaleen? Maybe just don't wear a Somalia wristband or say some wild shit like, "Siyaad Barre is my hero!" But nobody otherwise cares. There are Reer Konfuur all over the place doing business.
Don't take it personally. I have that image of the whole peninsula🙏
 

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Academics vehemently deny it. Claude Rilly - leading Nubiologist and authority figure on all things ancient Nubian - has it that we are not ancestral to any group. Not even Butana. He goes as far as to say that we probably got our ability to farm and herd from Nilo-Saharan speakers essentially.

Archaeologists are somewhat lunatics in general. If I'm not mistaken, they were vehemently against the idea of farming in Europe coming from the Middle-East via migration. Some nonsense about "cultural diffusion" until the ancient DNA came in and even then you'd be surprised. Linguists and archaeogeneticists have their own ridiculousness running about but they're at least a lot more sensible. Scholarship is not a monolith and you wouldn't have a hard time convincing someone like Ehret or Lazaridis of what we discuss on this forum.
 
Archaeologists are somewhat lunatics in general.
He's a linguist, though he does have tendency to shoehorn random bull from archaeology to osteometrics to bolster shitty arguments that only have basis in shoddy linguistic analysis.
Scholarship is not a monolith and you wouldn't have a hard time convincing someone like Ehret or Lazaridis of what we discuss on this forum.
Lazaridis, I know would agree. Ehret, on the other hand, as much as I respect him, is the biggest Nilotophile on the planet. Anything that would take from his precious 'Sudanics' in this zero-sum game of history, he would be against with a passion. He's #2 behind Rilly tho he's less of a c-word about it. Rilly's papers sometimes read like the journal of a madly insecure teenager with language used.
 

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He's a linguist, though he does have tendency to shoehorn random bull from archaeology to osteometrics to bolster shitty arguments that only have basis in shoddy linguistic analysis.

Lazaridis, I know would agree. Ehret, on the other hand, as much as I respect him, is the biggest Nilotophile on the planet. Anything that would take from his precious 'Sudanics' in this zero-sum game of history, he would be against with a passion. He's #2 behind Rilly tho he's less of a c-word about it. Rilly's papers sometimes read like the journal of a madly insecure teenager with language used.

Damn, I somehow didn't catch on despite reading some of his work. But eh, what wins out in scholarship is always in the end evidence. People can publish into infinity and even try to shape mainstream scholarship with sheer will and bullying. Future generations with true scholastic rigor will do their reading and know was being silly.

Speaking of Lazaridis, it's wild to think he's Dienekes. He will probably never admit it but what exactly are the odds that there are two Greeks from Havala, of the small Pontic Greek minority no less, who went to Caltech at the same time, studied Comp Sci and happened to be interested in population genetics?

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Is claudy Rilly that guy who says that merotic was nilo saharan and not cushitic?

Horta what is this aversion nubiologiists have for connecting stuff in ancient sudan with cushtic speakers?
 
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