Historical disaster: Hassan Sheikh Mohamud gives Turkey 95% of oil royalties and 90% production

Two things can be true. Yes this is about costs and not profits but Somalia accepted a deal worse than what their African contemporaries have accepted and have little recourse to prevent Turkish abuse of “costs”
Exactly this is what it ultimately comes down. There's also this weird part of 4.8 clause which makes me suspicious that there is a possibility of our share of the oil won't be sold at market rates.

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advocating for awdal sovereignty cuz i know the somaliland regime will not better my people, they are a leach that takes credit for anything my people build in awdal. i’m an advocater for federal somalia with everyone having self determination for their own affairs

FGS(Hawiye) will sell Awdal and give you nothing lol.
You won't be able to advocate for anything.

Somaliland is protecting all of it's regions.

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Who will invest hundreds of million and even billions required in driling oil in somalia with goverment that’s barely functioning.

Turkey put your money where your mouth is. Once drilling starts and oil flowing lets get worked up. We arguing over theoretical oil that hasn’t even been proven. There is a chance they never do any drilling and walk away which many companies have done since 60s
 

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African govts can’t be trusted it’s like person with negative credit score. Look at djbouti and what they did after port was built. U would be fool to invest with current govt climate

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Turkey sees a weak government with no territorial control and they have their troops on the ground it changes the balance of power considerably. No point comparing to Djibouti.

Turkey is carving a protectorate piece by piece. They will keep inept HSM in power because that's in their best interests. They will have no interest in a competent government ever coming to power as they can keep getting more out of HSM. Anytime AS advance they demand another slice out of Somalia's resources and then they will eat it all. Like a kebab.

Slice by slice the turks understnd this concept well.

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We are very unlucky to be born in this generation.

Imagine dying in 1976 peak Somalia full of hope and dreams for your future descendants :icon lol:
 

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Turkey sees a weak government with no territorial control and they have their troops on the ground it changes the balance of power considerably. No point comparing to Djibouti.
Somalia is begging someone to invest and explore oil for them. Nobody else stepping up due to high risk. Let’s first find this mythical oil riches. Right now just arguing over hypothetical riches which I’m starting to doubt even exist

I don’t belive Egyptians Turks or UAE will send their sons to die in head on conflict in Somalia. They do advisory and training roles and try to make money where they can.
 

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Somalia is begging someone to invest and explore oil for them. Nobody else stepping up due to high risk. Let’s first find this mythical oil riches. Right now just arguing over hypothetical riches which I’m starting to doubt even exist

I don’t belive Egyptians Turks or UAE will send their sons to die in head on conflict in Somalia. They do advisory and training roles and try to make money where they can.

If oil is found it's not just a case of being ripped off. It's will lead to permenant low level of governance and never ending insurgency because it will benefit Turkey too much to keep the status quo. It is a trap and not a way to political independence, security, or prosperity.
 

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How could we be robbed by our brethren ? :deadosama:

Better yet are all the HSM bots defending this deal.

My goodness.

"Insert African n!gger tribe" iz not eazy :cryinglaughsmiley:

Yaa usheega all Somalis are easier than a $2 wh0re

Somalia is begging someone to invest and explore oil for them. Nobody else stepping up due to high risk. Let’s first find this mythical oil riches. Right now just arguing over hypothetical riches which I’m starting to doubt even exist

I don’t belive Egyptians Turks or UAE will send their sons to die in head on conflict in Somalia. They do advisory and training roles and try to make money where they can.

True.

Who knows, maybe in a decade or two they'll be negotiating with a somewhat moderate Arsenal :icon lol:
 
We are very unlucky to be born in this generation.

Imagine dying in 1976 peak Somalia full of hope and dreams for your future descendants :icon lol:
I bet you consider it the highest level of martyrdom to die under Siyaad Barre and go to janatul-kacaan with 25-ta golaha sare which you consider saxaaba :icon lol:
 

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I bet you consider it the highest level of martyrdom to die under Siyaad Barre and go to janatul-kacaan with 25-ta golaha sare which you consider saxaaba :icon lol:

Ninyahow let's not derail this thread with your blasphemy, although you and I both know the kacaan would never ever ever sign a deal like this :icon lol:
 
Ninyahow let's not derail this thread with your blasphemy, although you and I both know the kacaan would never ever ever sign a deal like this :icon lol:
My blasphemy, yet you guys always bring up Aabo Siyaad whenever you trip and fall or lose your keys as if he is your lord.

Kacaan did much worse things than this. As @Hilmaam pointed out the oil is only hypothetical. The kacaans crimes are very real.
 

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My blasphemy, yet you guys always bring up Aabo Siyaad whenever you trip and fall or lose your keys as if he is your lord.

Kacaan did much worse things than this. As @Hilmaam pointed out the oil is only hypothetical. The kacaans crimes are very real.

Yes, people generally compare presidents and administrations. It's called politics wtf :icon lol:

The kacaan's accomplishments and missteps have been discussed on this forum ad nauseam, the fact we keep bringing it up after three decades shows you just how far backwards we have gone.
 

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interesting read on how long this song and dance been going on for
 
Yes, people generally compare presidents and administrations. It's called politics wtf :icon lol:

The kacaan's accomplishments and missteps have been discussed on this forum ad nauseam, the fact we keep bringing it up after three decades shows you just how far backwards we have gone.
Says the guy who admits to leaving Xamar in an armored personnel carrier in 1991 :icon lol:
 

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