History is a set of lies agree upon

[Internet Nomad]

The popular image of the Vikings is one of fearsome warriors wearing horned helmets. Many depictions of the Vikings display this particular attribute. However, there is only one preserved helmet from the Viking Age and this does not have horns. It was found in the Norwegian warrior’s burial at Gjermundbu, north of Oslo, together with the only complete suit of chain mail from the period.

Most viking unlike what movies and tv shows would like you to believe were not heavily armed or bare chested. The most likely wore thick leather padding and if he is rich chain mail.

Now you asking me why are you telling me this random facts about viking and why does this relate to the title of the thread.

Well just like the great cuck general napoleon said “history is a set of lies agreed upon.”

When discussing Somali history and you come across a claim that so grand and unlikely that your historical integrity compels you to downplay it or deny it.

Dont!

Almost all other cultures are not modest about their achievements why should we be?

I personally I don’t care if people overestimate Somali history as long as it is within reason as most cultures do the same thing to grander levels.

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

The popular image of the Vikings is one of fearsome warriors wearing horned helmets. Many depictions of the Vikings display this particular attribute. However, there is only one preserved helmet from the Viking Age and this does not have horns. It was found in the Norwegian warrior’s burial at Gjermundbu, north of Oslo, together with the only complete suit of chain mail from the period.

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Most viking unlike what movies and tv shows would like you to believe were not heavily armed or bare chested. The most likely wore thick leather padding and if he is rich chain mail.
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Now you asking me why are you telling me this random facts about viking and why does this relate to the title of the thread.

Well just like the great cuck general napoleon said “history is a set of lies agreed upon.”

When discussing Somali history and you come across a claim that so grand and unlikely that your historical integrity compels you to downplay it or deny it.

Dont!

Almost all other cultures are not modest about their achievements why should we be?

I personally I don’t care if people overestimate Somali history as long as it is within reason as most cultures do the same thing to grander levels.

You're basically trying to glamourize hotepping

 

[ila-soco]

narratives always matter more than reality

 

[Internet Nomad]

You're basically trying to glamourize hotepping

Almost every other culture hoteps to a certain degree your just anti-somali so whenever the kind people of this site respond to you with actual claims you get triggered.

Imagine me saying we shouldn’t be modest about our history you might self destruct with how triggered you would feel.

 

[Internet Nomad]

narratives always matter more than reality

Exactly narrative are important the average joe doesn’t care about historical accuracy he just came back from watching napoleon and thinks napoleon was an old man when he started his military conquests.

Heck they might’ve believed the sparta 300 movie was a historical fact.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

Almost every other culture hoteps to a certain degree your just anti-somali so whenever the kind people of this site respond to you with actual claims you get triggered.

Imagine me saying we shouldn’t be modest about our history you might self destruct with how triggered you would feel.

everyone hoteps some more than others posting fake manuscripts is also hoteping

 

[Lightshow]

They depict Vikings as 6 foot powerfully built blonde muscle bound warriors. when in reality the average height of a Viking warrior was 5 foot 7 and they were usually of slight build.

You are right the west tends to glamorise and even embellish their history to a great deal. I suspect Somali history is probably much greater than we think, but that we downplay it due to our modern status. The vice versa is true for the western countries, their history is hyped up!

 

[Khaem]

They depict Vikings as 6 foot powerfully built blonde muscle bound warriors. when in reality the average height of a Viking warrior was 5 foot 7 and they were usually of slight build.

You are right the west tends to glamorise and even embellish their history to a great deal. I suspect Somali history is probably much greater than we think, but that we downplay it due to our modern status. The vice versa is true for the western countries, their history is hyped up!

It's all in the media. Somalis need to hype up history.

 

[Mayor]

Exactly narrative are important the average joe doesn’t care about historical accuracy he just came back from watching napoleon and thinks napoleon was an old man when he started his military conquests.

Heck they might’ve believed the sparta 300 movie was a historical fact.

People still think Napoleon was short when in reality he was slightly taller than the average male of his time.

What initially started as British propaganda has become accepted as fact, and now the phrase “Napoleon complex” is used all around the world

 

[Lightshow]

It's all in the media. Somalis need to hype up history.

Our main problem is that we do not have access to much of the written chronicles left by the lofty sultanates, and there is no push towards any meaningful archeological investigation into Somali history.

We are on the brink of losing our language and culture let alone delve into the past. Somalis really need to get a grip. The academically inclined among us have to make a revival of our history.

It is now easier than ever to make animations, short films and even movie adaptations of our folklore, history and culture. This should be promoted.

 

[Internet Nomad]

People still think Napoleon was short when in reality he was slightly taller than the average male of his time.

What initially started as British propaganda has become accepted as fact, and now the phrase “Napoleon complex” is used all around the world

Another great point napoleon was a average young man not a old short guy with a “napoleon complex”.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Our main problem is that we do not have access to much of the written chronicles left by the lofty sultanates, and there is no push towards any meaningful archeological investigation into Somali history.

We are on the brink of losing our language and culture let alone delve into the past. Somalis really need to get a grip. The academically inclined among us have to make a revival of our history.

It is now easier than ever to make animations, short films and even movie adaptations of our folklore, history and culture. This should be promoted.

Somali archeological sites are the tip of the iceberg.

You know things are great when you have cannons washing up on shore.

 

[Lightshow]

Interesting note the history of the Bonaparte family goes back to the late 15th century with Francesco, the first Bonaparte to move to Corsica, nicknamed the Moor of Sarzane after the small Italian town from which the Bonaparte family originated.

Generally in that time you were only called a Moor if you were of a darker complexion. Funny how the racist Napoleon had a Moorish ancestor and was also haplogroup E1b1b

People still think Napoleon was short when in reality he was slightly taller than the average male of his time.

What initially started as British propaganda has become accepted as fact, and now the phrase “Napoleon complex” is used all around the world

 

[Internet Nomad]

Somalis have so many angles to hotep from punt, havilah and Sabtecha.

We have these wealthy costal cities which have been known for centuries untouched.

One of the oldest mosques in the world are both present in Eritrea and zeila

Look at this video and see how many ajanabis views it gotten. Even if he embellished a bit on the truth it pushed the view of somalis forward instead of backwards.

 

[Basra]

The popular image of the Vikings is one of fearsome warriors wearing horned helmets. Many depictions of the Vikings display this particular attribute. However, there is only one preserved helmet from the Viking Age and this does not have horns. It was found in the Norwegian warrior’s burial at Gjermundbu, north of Oslo, together with the only complete suit of chain mail from the period.

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Most viking unlike what movies and tv shows would like you to believe were not heavily armed or bare chested. The most likely wore thick leather padding and if he is rich chain mail.
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Now you asking me why are you telling me this random facts about viking and why does this relate to the title of the thread.

Well just like the great cuck general napoleon said “history is a set of lies agreed upon.”

When discussing Somali history and you come across a claim that so grand and unlikely that your historical integrity compels you to downplay it or deny it.

Dont!

Almost all other cultures are not modest about their achievements why should we be?

I personally I don’t care if people overestimate Somali history as long as it is within reason as most cultures do the same thing to grander levels.

As long as it is within reason

 

[Internet Nomad]

@Himmler why do you dislike my comment.

Take a lesson from your leader.

”Why do we call the whole world's attention to the fact that we have no past? It's bad enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts; now Himmler is starting to dig up these villages of mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone ax he finds. All we prove by that is that we were still throwing stone hatchets and crouching around open fires when Greece and Rome had already reached the highest stage of culture. We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these revelations.”
-Adolf Hitler

 

[Lightshow]

@Himmler why do you dislike my comment.

Take a lesson from your leader.

”Why do we call the whole world's attention to the fact that we have no past? It's bad enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts; now Himmler is starting to dig up these villages of mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone ax he finds. All we prove by that is that we were still throwing stone hatchets and crouching around open fires when Greece and Rome had already reached the highest stage of culture. We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these revelations.”
-Adolf Hitler

History is reputation, and reputation influences the opinion the world has of you. The opinions of others influences your own opinion of yourself. The power of a nation and indeed an individual comes from within. But outside influences can have a major impact on your self esteem, especially if you are not very strong yet, or have not built up an inner momentum of strength.

Unfortunately Somalis do not understand this concept. Everything starts from thoughts. Your thoughts are things, and when you think negatively you influence your life in such a manner. Sadly instead of being positive and forthright, many choose to focus on the worst aspects and the cruelest slanders against our people. For example, why would any Somali of sound mind repeat the 68 iq lie? That was spread to destroy the image of our people. It might seem like a joke, but with enough repetition these things can have a substantial influence with far reaching and unpredictable negative consequences.

Our people really really need to get a grip on reality and how it works!

 

[Basra]

History is reputation, and reputation influences the opinion the world has of you. The opinions of others influences your own opinion of yourself. The power of a nation and indeed an individual comes from within. But outside influences can have a major impact on your self esteem, especially if you are not very strong yet, or have not built up an inner momentum of strength.

Unfortunately Somalis do not understand this concept. Everything starts from thoughts. Your thoughts are things, and when you think negatively you influence your life in such a manner. Sadly instead of being positive and forthright, many choose to focus on the worst aspects and the cruelest slanders against our people. For example, why would any Somali of sound mind repeat the 68 iq lie? That was spread to destroy the image of our people. It might seem like a joke, but with enough repetition these things can have a substantial influence with far reaching and unpredictable negative consequences.

Our people really really need to get a grip on reality and how it works!

What does "Lightshow" mean?

 

[Cartan Boos]

Its hard being noble Somali lamagoodle these days we surrendered by haters wether be madow,Cadaan dhegecas or our xalwo makers or even fellow Somalis self hating, enemies everywhere, embrace u culture and past

 

[Internet Nomad]

History is reputation, and reputation influences the opinion the world has of you. The opinions of others influences your own opinion of yourself. The power of a nation and indeed an individual comes from within. But outside influences can have a major impact on your self esteem, especially if you are not very strong yet, or have not built up an inner momentum of strength.

Unfortunately Somalis do not understand this concept. Everything starts from thoughts. Your thoughts are things, and when you think negatively you influence your life in such a manner. Sadly instead of being positive and forthright, many choose to focus on the worst aspects and the cruelest slanders against our people. For example, why would any Somali of sound mind repeat the 68 iq lie? That was spread to destroy the image of our people. It might seem like a joke, but with enough repetition these things can have a substantial influence with far reaching and unpredictable negative consequences.

Our people really really need to get a grip on reality and how it works!

There is a reason why till this day the nazis are still respected in a way nobody says out loud.

They understood the aesthetics perfectly no other civilisation except the roman and greeks under stood it this well.