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I don't give a flying f*ck to that old mythical darood fantasy.
If darood or hawiye, DM were great men Somalis won't be living in a miserable life in 21st century.
f*ck to these low iq men village men from the dark ages.

I know my ethnicity is darod, that's my ancestor, if he isn't your ancestor, then go find a fuckin home. I am not going to be your brother under some stupid somali border myth that was created in the 60s, that's why we hate each other sxb, our nation is a fake state created by the outside who saw us as the same people, but we don't see each other as the same people. Even in Somalia, everything is segregated along clan-lines because that is the real identity of Somali people.
 
@OTF The reason why MJ are obsessed with Hamar is, it has committed horrific crimes in 91 against Darod people and it hasn't been resolved. Not only horrific, they looted all our investments in the city. Till this is resolved, I doubt they're will be any love lost. As MJ we want the city of warlords to be punished for how they treated other Somali citizens and that's why we want war in hamar, we want them chasing each other thru xafadaha and HG sending missiles again into bakaraha and bombing it all up. Why? because the city is based on haram and it should die in haram is our majerten views. While this happens, PL will develop and be in peace and expand it's influence regionally and globally, while you see the dust of a technical and hobiye in your god damn mogadishu.

Puntland is the biggest shithole out there in the world. If it's so great, why don't you live there?
Take your qaxooti ass to that shithole desert land, since it's a great place to live in.
f*ck with these lunatics double face qaxootis.
 
I know my ethnicity is darod, that's my ancestor, if he isn't your ancestor, then go find a fuckin home. I am not going to be your brother under some stupid somali border myth that was created in the 60s, that's why we hate each other sxb, our nation is a fake state created by the outside who saw us as the same people, but we don't see each other as the same people. Even in Somalia, everything is segregated along clan-lines because that is the real identity of Somali people.

I don't fucking care about stupid qabiil mythical creatures. Darood was probably a stupid untermensch low iq village man, who couldn't even manage to build a proper house for his family, if he even existed.
All the other qabiil figures were the same untermensch low iqs.
They've done nothing significant in this world.
 

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I don't fucking care about stupid qabiil mythical creatures. Darood was probably a stupid untermensch low iq village man, who couldn't even manage to build a proper house for his family, if he even existed.
All the other qabiil figures were the same untermensch low iqs.
They've done nothing significant in this world.

I don't care about your stupid mythical somali nationalism that was invented only in 1960 and it's all whole premise is based on we speak a common tongue and share a common region. I speak a common tongue with english people, does that make me english? what a stupid idea to create a nation behind such stupid premises of language.

Nationhood comes from people souls, hearts, history, blood, etc. Not language. The kurds are patriotic kurds across turkey, iraq, iran, syria. Why? you can't impose nationalism on people, somalinimo has to die out sxb for us to move on, it's a damn cancer that is imposed on us, it's not from our hearts. My heart explodes in joy for puntland progress, but when I see Somaliland or Hamar, deep down I do not share the same joy in their progress.
 

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What caused Somali civil war is imposing nationalism on people who were not interested nor wanted this type of nationalism. They rebelled and created faction groups to restore the nation back to it's tribal roots. Yes people use the excuse we are fighting siyad barre communism, centralism, and all that nonsense. But deep down the war was against Somalinimo and people were deep down tribal and clan based.

We must acknowledge what people support and create a government for it, at least they will progress then, rather then imposing more nationalism which will lead to another war. That is why we always feel hamar is on the brink of war, it's still following the same nationalism path and we majerten boys want to get our popcorn out and wait for the civil war as the people reject it. Puntland succeeded becuz we acknowledged tribal and clan importance.
 
I don't care about your stupid mythical somali nationalism that was invented only in 1960 and it's all whole premise is based on we speak a common tongue and share a common region. I speak a common tongue with english people, does that make me english? what a stupid idea to create a nation behind such stupid premises of language.

Nationhood comes from people souls, hearts, history, blood, etc. Not language. The kurds are patriotic kurds across turkey, iraq, iran, syria. Why? you can't impose nationalism on people, somalinimo has to die out sxb for us to move on, it's a damn cancer that is imposed on us, it's not from our hearts. My heart explodes in joy for puntland progress, but when I see Somaliland or Hamar, deep down I do not share the same joy in their progress.

You live in Australia, a country created by worst of all criminals. Britain feared those criminals and shipped them to down under.
How could criminals create a nation, When all they shared was their criminality?
Somalia has one of smallest demographic differences. Look at the USA, Russia, China, Brazil, they share nothing.
Clan fiefdoms has no place in 21st century.
Go live in puntland if it's such a good place to be in.
 
What caused Somali civil war is imposing nationalism on people who were not interested nor wanted this type of nationalism. They rebelled and created faction groups to restore the nation back to it's tribal roots. Yes people use the excuse we are fighting siyad barre communism, centralism, and all that nonsense. But deep down the war was against Somalinimo and people were deep down tribal and clan based.

We must acknowledge what people support and create a government for it, at least they will progress then, rather then imposing more nationalism which will lead to another war. That is why we always feel hamar is on the brink of war, it's still following the same nationalism path and we majerten boys want to get our popcorn out and wait for the civil war as the people reject it. Puntland succeeded becuz we acknowledged tribal and clan importance.

AYA fed you all MJs Ethiopian lies.
 
I am sick of hearing your constant nationalism. Your not my brother, your not my relative, your not my fellow clans-men, your not anywhere near my region. We happen to share a god damn country, we are fellow citizens under Somali confederation, this doesn't mean we are the same people.

Just like many majertens are fellow citizens of white and black and mexicans in america, this doesn't mean they are the same people. We share a country god damn you JIRON, we are only fellow citizens, we are not the same people though. You keep mixing citizenship thinking a piece o paper is going to make you my fellow blood relative.
Is daji nobody said that Muslims and gaalo are the same people. You're a laangaab gaal that even I got more rights than you in your hometown kkk now cry me a river laangaabyahoow:russ:
 
What caused Somali civil war is imposing nationalism on people who were not interested nor wanted this type of nationalism. They rebelled and created faction groups to restore the nation back to it's tribal roots. Yes people use the excuse we are fighting siyad barre communism, centralism, and all that nonsense. But deep down the war was against Somalinimo and people were deep down tribal and clan based.

We must acknowledge what people support and create a government for it, at least they will progress then, rather then imposing more nationalism which will lead to another war. That is why we always feel hamar is on the brink of war, it's still following the same nationalism path and we majerten boys want to get our popcorn out and wait for the civil war as the people reject it. Puntland succeeded becuz we acknowledged tribal and clan importance.

A better option is to put all clanist untermenschs in a gas chamber and gas them all.
That will save the Somali nation.
 

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A better option is to put all clanist untermenschs in a gas chamber and gas them all.
That will save the Somali nation.

If u don't like tribe or clan, go and live in a country that supports your out-dated nationalist views. Somali is just a language, it's not a nation, its not a common people, it's not a common region. Our common struggle against colonialism brought us together, once they left, we should've implemented tribal based emirates system immediately because we only unite when a foreigner is present, we never unite when it's just us by ourselves.

History even shows this thru futuh al habash, we didn't share a common government, we all lived autonomously in different regions like how we are now. Somalia future is bright, we finally federalized like how it was during ahmed gurey time. This nationalism disaster between 1960-1991 will be erased from the memories of the people. Its funny u support a system that is proved to fail in 30 years(60-91), yet reject a proven federal structure that existed since the time of ahmed gurey and even earlier.
 

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AYA fed you all MJs Ethiopian lies.

Warwaaqsame stop imposing yourself on others, your a damn cuck wallahi. Are u ashamed you can't progress with your own tribe and want to hide your tribal failures under somalinimo nationalism? those days are gone, we know those who cry for nationalism are usually from regions that are booli qaran and want the government of Somalia to do everything for them. Grow up, not all clans are equal in federalism, I agree. But that's your choice to help your own clan, why sit there crying for somalinimo? when u could be building a school or hospital servicing thousands of your people the basics.
 
If u don't like tribe or clan, go and live in a country that supports your out-dated nationalist views. Somali is just a language, it's not a nation, its not a common people, it's not a common region. Our common struggle against colonialism brought us together, once they left, we should've implemented tribal based emirates system immediately because we only unite when a foreigner is present, we never unite when it's just us by ourselves.

History even shows this thru futuh al habash, we didn't share a common government, we all lived autonomously in different regions like how we are now. Somalia future is bright, we finally federalized like how it was during ahmed gurey time. This nationalism disaster between 1960-1991 will be erased from the memories of the people. Its funny u support a system that is proved to fail in 30 years(60-91), yet reject a proven federal structure that existed since the time of ahmed gurey and even earlier.

Can you please go away with your clan fantasies? I don't fucking care about a village untermensch from the dark ages.
I would have been the biggest clanist, if these clan figures created even a peace of garment. There's literally nothing to be proud of them. They were just village men.
 
Warwaaqsame stop imposing yourself on others, your a damn cuck wallahi. Are u ashamed you can't progress with your own tribe and want to hide your tribal failures under somalinimo nationalism? those days are gone, we know those who cry for nationalism are usually from regions that are booli qaran and want the government of Somalia to do everything for them. Grow up, not all clans are equal in federalism, I agree. But that's your choice to help your own clan, why sit there crying for somalinimo? when u could be building a school or hospital servicing thousands of your people the basics.

Thanks to god and Somalinimo, I and my family have everything we need to live a happy life forever. I don't need a clan fairytale to prosper.
We've 140 hectares of farm land, 17 blocks of land in various parts in Somalia, business in 3 three countries.
You get a good life when you work hard, clan fairytales won't fix that shithole you're talking about.
 

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Thanks to god and Somalinimo, I and my family have everything we need to live a happy life forever. I don't need a clan fairytale to prosper.
We've 140 hectares of farm land, 17 blocks of land in various parts in Somalia, business in 3 three countries.
You get a good life when you work hard, clan fairytales won't fix that shithole you're talking about.

Are u another Ghetto boy thinking farmajo a silly marehan from a region that is the size of Qandala is going to bring back nationalism? u know it and I do, he will be kicked out of office like the rest were before him but who remains? PL remains, JL remains. These are god damn institutions not some duli from america who thinks he can change the course of Somalia because it doesn't suit marehan. And if your not Marehan, then declare your clan you coward because u r scared it will be abused
 
Are u another Ghetto boy thinking farmajo a silly marehan from a region that is the size of Qandala is going to bring back nationalism? u know it and I do, he will be kicked out of office like the rest were before him but who remains? PL remains, JL remains. These are god damn institutions not some duli from america who thinks he can change the course of Somalia because it doesn't suit marehan. And if your not Marehan, then declare your clan you coward because u r scared it will be abused

I'm not a supporter of any of current politicians. They'll seem foreign agents to me. I'm very skeptical about them.
 

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I'm not a supporter of any of current politicians. They'll seem foreign agents to me. I'm very skeptical about them.

What is you clan waryaa, you can't be a Somali if you don't have a clan. The only possible way to be native Somali is you need to be from a clan and if your not, then get f*ck out this forum and go back home to where-ever your people are
 
What is you clan waryaa, you can't be a Somali if you don't have a clan. The only possible way to be native Somali is you need to be from a clan and if your not, then get f*ck out this forum and go back home to where-ever your people are

Clan ka inta darbiga saadhid dubee adeer.
Faataa dhug badanaa. Anigiyoo nool baad dooneysaa oday beri hore dunida ka hayaamay inaad igu sunto
 

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@PuntiteQueen I find it funny how you meet these Somalis who reject clan and tribe but you can't be a Somali if you are not from a clan or tribe. So we should ignore these trolls @Warwaaqsame who clearly doesn't know the class system in Somalia is vastly different to that nonsensical wealth class system that exists in the western world. Either way sxb, you will fall into some group be it socio(tribal, ethnicity, etc) and economical(wealth class). That's just the way the world is.

There is none of this nationalism crap. Nationalism is communism, it tries to lift up people who are poor bush buun marehans and elevate they're status on the back of Somali taxpayers and by god that won't happen anytime soon.
 
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