How can you disagree with this?

[Juke]

It just completely waters down the struggle madows went through in slavery, day to day, etc.

I just find it very offensive people think of black skin like that.

 

[Juke]

Furthermore however, Tyson Fury is Gypsy, so he isn't just white. They are a poor community so I would not have issue with Fury saying that. If anything, he should be encouraging Gypsys to start being business savy.

Fury is an Irish traveler, not a Gypsy; similar lifestyle but completely different people. They have the lifestyle of the old Irish people before they were conquered and civilized by the English.

 

[Halimak]

This isn’t the 60s and racism sand oppression isn’t close to what is was then

Racism is still bad, just not overt. People have simply learnt to be bit undercover about it.

Also, cadaans and madows in the west are not the same. We live in a cadaan world, in which they have all the privileges so comparing ethnic minorities to cadaans is simply silly.

 

[Halimak]

Fury is an Irish traveler, not a Gypsy; similar lifestyle but completely different people. They have the lifestyle of the old Irish people before they were conquered and civilized by the English.

In the UK we call them gypsy, its a bit of a slur tbh. I'm fully aware he is not Roma Gypsy. Irish travellers here are treated no different to the Roma people and we even call them gypsy as well.

Its a British thing. Don't worry I know the difference.

 

[Jaydaan]

Racism is still bad, just not overt. People have simply learnt to be bit undercover about it.

Also, cadaans and madows in the west are not the same. We live in a cadaan world, in which they have all the privileges so comparing ethnic minorities to cadaans is simply silly.

Keep defending them and treating them like children. This is Madow in nutshell. Always cry about whites. But they kill each other everyday

 

[Halimak]

Keep defending them and treating them like children. This is madow in nutshell. Always cry about whites. But they kill each other everyday

So what is your problem then? What is the whole purpose of your thread? Because when a madow guy (AJ) actually gives good advice about supporting the community economically, which is in fact one solution to gang violence, you cry about it and make a whole thread? So not only do you have issues with then when they are killing each other understandably, but NOW you have issues with them when they encourage each other by coming up with viable ideas? That is insane. Are you okay horta?

Like i said I think it is easier that you just title your thread, 'I hate madow people regardless' and keep it moving. Because right now, its obvious to see that you will find negativity with everything they do.

 

[Jaydaan]

So what is your problem then? What is the whole purpose of your thread? Because when a madow guy (AJ) actually gives good advice about supporting the community economically, which is in fact one solution to gang violence, you cry about it and make a whole thread? So not only do you have issues with then when they are killing each other understandably, but NOW you have issues with them when they encourage each other by coming up with viable ideas? That is insane. Are you okay horta?

Like i said I think it is easier that you just title your thread, 'I hate madow people regardless' and keep it moving. Because right now, its obvious to see that you will find negativity with everything they do.

It’s stupid advice and he should follow suit. Hire black coaches, advisors and manager before preaching to people. I don’t support open racism by anyone

 

[Halimak]

It’s stupid advice and he should follow suit. Hire black coaches, advisors and manager before preaching to people. I don’t support open racism by anyone

AJ's team is pretty diverse and has more ethnic minorities than cadaan, although his manager is most definitely white. I don't know much about the boxing world, but unfortunately, the higher you climb the ladder the less ethnic minorities you see. Even more reason for madows to create their own businesses.

Also, how is it open racism to support your own businesses when you are economically and socially at a disadvantage? Again, you're talking as though white people and poor ethnic minority communities are on equal footing. As an ethnic miniority, you are less likely to be hired despite having the exact same qualifications or even better, even on the job you are less likely to get a promotion. So yes, blacks, asians ect have every right to focus on their own businesses.

I would scream from the rooftops that Somalis should focus on Somali businesses, even if I was in the public eye. I don't give a shit and neither should AJ.

If it was stupid, groups like the Indians ect wouldn't be as successful as they are today. They do this unapologetically.

 

[Jaydaan]

AJ's team is pretty diverse and has more ethnic minorities than cadaan, although his manager is most definitely white. I don't know much about the boxing world, but unfortunately, the higher you climb the ladder the less ethnic minorities you see. Even more reason for madows to create their own businesses.

Also, how is it open racism to support your own businesses when you are economically and socially at a disadvantage? Again, you're talking as though white people and poor ethnic minority communities are on equal footing. As an ethnic miniority, you are less likely to be hired despite having the exact same qualifications or even better, even on the job you are less likely to get a promotion. So yes, blacks, asians ect have every right to focus on their own businesses.

I would scream from the rooftops that Somalis should focus on Somali businesses, even if I was in the public eye. I don't give a shit and neither should AJ.

If it was stupid, groups like the Indians ect wouldn't be as successful as they are today. They do this unapologetically.

Would you have problem if whites openly advocated for only using white business? Or hire each other?

 

[Halimak]

Would you have problem if whites openly advocated for only using white business? Or hire each other?

Cadaans do not need to do this as the majority of the businesses are 95% white owned. So if they had that policy it would simply be racism as they are in a powerful position already in terms of wealth and population. What real reason would they have, when they are ones that are mostly hired and promoted? They are not a poor economic group that are trying to build themselves up.

Similarly, if we were all back home In Somalia and things were peaceful and we had wealth, it would be clear racism if Somalis only brought from ethnic Somalis and not from Cadcads as we are the majority and would probably be the wealthier party. Also, the majority of the dukaans would belong to ethnic Somalis anyway so what is the point of avoiding cadcad shops? So similarly, there will be no good reason for us to have this policy.

Get it?

 

[Jaydaan]

Cadaans do not need to do this as the majority of the businesses are 95% white owned. So if they had that policy it would simply be racism as they are in a powerful position already in terms of wealth and population. What real reason would they have, when they are ones that are mostly hired and promoted? They are not a poor economic group that are trying to build themselves up.

Similarly, if we were all back home In Somalia and things were peaceful and we had wealth, it would be clear racism if Somalis only brought from ethnic Somalis and not from Cadcads as we are the majority and would probably be the wealthier party. Also, the majority of the dukaans would belong to ethnic Somalis anyway so what is the point of avoiding cadcad shops? So therefore, will be no reason for us to have this policy.

Get it?

Just as I thought....double standard which is not gonna fly. You really think black people being treated with kids gloves will continue forever. You have lower expectations of black people, while I expect them to follow the social rules we all follow. You dont go out there to advocate for go to black shops only. No other group does it. If they cant use their brain and do things like normal people on the low and help their own. Then they are more lost than we thought. There is rules in society and they are not gonna be bend for them cause they are dumbasses. Its that simple

 

[Halimak]

Just as I thought....double standard which is not gonna fly. You really think black people being treated with kids gloves will continue forever. You have lower expectations of black people, while I expect them to follow the social rules we all follow. You dont go out there to advocate for go to black shops only. No other group does it. If they cant use their brain and do things like normal people on the low and help their own. Then they are more lost than we thought. There is rules in society and they are not gonna be bend for them cause they are dumbasses. Its that simple

Loool every group does it. Its how the Chinese and Indians became wealthy. So what rules are society bending for black people? They are in fact the last ones to get on the train. If they actually did it, they would be in a much better position.

Also, if it was double standards I wouldn't have added the last paragraph. It has nothing to do with being cadaan, but about being the clear majority and wealthier, so they have no reason for them to do it. If we were all back home, we wouldn't need to do to this as well.

That is why I used back home as an example. Do you actually read what I write or? Also, what makes you think this is just about madows? This is something I advocate for Somalis as well. Because you can argue double standards, but the reality is that you are not cadaan and you are less likely to get certain jobs despite having the criteria, you are less likely to get a promotion over a cadaan despite being hard-working. That is the reality. So what is the solution? Start supporting and investing in your own.

Stop with this whole double standard bullshit. Forget about black people for a minute. If you think you and a cadaan are in the same position especially in the world of work then I don't know what your sniffing. Maybe in low paying jobs, but not in the professional world. Why the F are you talking about double standards, when looking at the standards of the west you are at a disadvantage?

Also, I have a question for you. Are Somali professional organisation groups 'racist'?

 

[Jaydaan]

Loool every group does it. Its how the Chinese and Indians became wealthy. So what rules are society bending for black people? They are in fact the last ones to get on the train. If they actually did it, they would be in a much better position.

Also, if it was double standards I wouldn't have added the last paragraph. It has nothing to do with being cadaan, but about being the clear majority and wealthier, so they have no reason for them to do it. If we were all back home, we wouldn't need to do to this as well.

That is why I used back home as an example. Do you actually read what I write or? Also, what makes you think this is just about madows? This is something I advocate for Somalis as well. Because you can argue double standards, but the reality is that you are not cadaan and you are less likely to get certain jobs despite having the criteria, you are less likely to get a promotion over a cadaan despite being hard-working. That is the reality. So what is the solution? Start supporting and investing in your own.

Stop with this whole double standard bullshit. Forget about black people for a minute. If you think you and a cadaan are in the same position especially in the world of work then I don't know what your sniffing. Maybe in low paying jobs, but not in the professional world. Why the F are you talking about double standards, when looking at the standards of the west you are at a disadvantage?

Also, I have a question for you. Are Somali professional organisation groups 'racist'?

Then its their fault. Like i said i like people who move in silent. Im not fan of all this woke people trying to lift certain people. No one says these things openly and they shouldnt either. If they cant move in silent like rest of us...then they are lost. Btw black lives matter. 18 people dead in chicago last 24 hours. Not even in xamar does that happen

 

[Halimak]

Then its their fault. Like i said i like people who move in silent. Im not fan of all this woke people trying to lift certain people. No one says these things openly and they shouldnt either. If they cant move in silent like rest of us...then they are lost. Btw black lives matter. 18 people dead in chicago last 24 hours. Not even in xamar does that happen

That doesn't happen in Ghana, Nigeria or Gambia. These are people they descend from, yet they are relatively peaceful in their own nations.

Stop trying to make it seem like black people are inherently dumb or violent.

 

[Jungle]

He better keep this same energy when the hype dies down. Britains finest nig nog.

 

[Jaydaan]

He better keep this same energy when the hype dies down. Britains finest nig nog.

Suddenly everyone is woke. Man is white washed as they come lool. He has always been white uks favourite negro always saying the right things. Suddenly he is malcom x lool