How do I become Somali president?

[repo]

Sounds very silly but surely I couldn’t do any worse than these blatantly corrupt and careless stooges. Unless Halane is forcing people to become useless and corrupt (because nothing else explains why every president doesn’t at least move the country forward even one step), I would be great for my country. I love my country, I love my people and I genuinely do not believe in clan supremacy. The somali bantu, the madhiban and the so called big clans are the same to me. A bit about me:

I am 32
I have bachelors in Engineering and I intend to get my masters some day, hopefully soon.
I am not gaal or mulxid. I am a practicing Muslim.

as for my political beliefs:
I believe in semi democratic Somalia where the constitution would be mostly inspired by Islamic law for major zero tolerance crimes like murder, rape, corruption(execution for the former two and lengthy prison sentences for the latter). At the same time people would be free to do whatever they want. Ou yeah no fucking social media until everybody’s IQ is at least 100, literally everyone (no adults left behind).

and the biggest reason why i would want to become president is getting rid of halane, cadaan ngos and fucking ethiopian, kenyan and other African soldiers in the country. To do this, I would first have to fight and remove alshabab which I would absolutely prioritize because they are used as pretense as to why we have so much ajnabis stealing our lands, and instigating between our people.

so what do yall think? Am I dreaming here? Should I give up?

if not how do I try? I don’t fucking wanna be beholden to arab daddy countries but at the same time you need money to run.

What can you do for me? That's what I am interested in.

 

[Boomer]

Litmus test to officiate your credence:

a) Will you kiss the ring of regional powers, and bow to Uncle Sam?​

b) Could you self-sustain to retirement as it is?​

a. Absolutely not
b. Even if I could, would those who benefit from our current state allow it? Probably not. We would need all of us to be united and sing from the same hymn sheet and then pray for a miracle.

 

[Boomer]

I was as innocent as you when I joined this forum. It’s possible for an ogaden to become president I’ll tell u that. It’s not easy you have to be as corrupt as possible to achieve that. Have financial backers like Qatar promising them oil deals so they pay you so u can buy votes. Or be a horgal for another tribe so now you have Ogaden supporters and big backers from that other tribe that you are practically a vassal for. You must get deep into the dhiiqo. Eventually after enough attempts you can become.

Corruption is half the problem and it wouldn’t make sense using it to come to power if you wanna fight it. The whole thing is so fucked up just talking about it makes my head hurt.

 

[Sputnikaa]

I already read many historical books on people who rebuilt nations like the bolsheviks, meji from japan etc… and I am now reading a book on the making of modern china.

Raise a massive army, be friends with a powerful nation like US or Russia and take over the country by force

somalis deep down love dictators, hopefully you will be like the Singaporean founder Lee rather than a dictator who doesn't build the economy or military

get rid of 4.5 first thing, Ogaden has lands in the 2 Jubbas, Gedo and Bakool is Cawlyahan Ogaden, but a langab like an idoor and ciise who barely own 1 full gobal for idoor and barely a village for ciise get 60 Mps under dir and never mind eley who get same as whole darood despite darood owning 60% of somalia - it was desinged by jibouti in 2004, very unfair

do a one man one vote and allow every Ogaden to vote from every corner as the constitution allows since 1960 and you will not even need darood, Ogaden is enough - now you know why Hassan sheikh tried to remove NFD and Ogadeniya to not be allowed to vote in a one man one vote, he knows Ogaden will crush him in a fair election, never mind darood

oh and move the capital to Jubbaland, xamar is to wild

 

[Boomer]

Obstacles in your way:

1. Do you speak Somali fluently?! If not, don't bother.
2. Do you know the inner tribal conflicts in the country and their historical context?! If not, don't waste your time.
3. Are you allied with one of these countries that have a tremendous effect on our politics: UAE, ETHIOPIA or Turkey and QATAR?! If not, you're obviously wasting your time.
4. Do you hail from a strong powerful clan?! If not, please don't bother.
5. Do you have their full endorsement if you hail from a strong powerful clan?! If not, stop wasting your precious time.
6. Have you held any governmental position of any kind in the past?! Federal or State?! If not, just don't think of running for the office.
7. Do you have a well known allies in Somali politics who can help you achieve your political aspirations?! If not, go back immediately.

But everything you mentioned is the very problem we need to fight and get rid of it. How do we do that? In reality, your average hooyo wants school, healthcare and education for her children . Your average aabo or adult male wants a job that comfortably sustains him and or his family. Clan as it is today only serves as an obstacle. It’s literally irrelevant! We all ran to the west because it was hell back home and look how comfortably we live. In somalia, we have children who don’t even have access to clean water, not because we can’t do it because our leaders think that money is better spent fueling clans wars and funding political campaigns where their goal isn’t to serve the people but to steal from them.

 

[Boomer]

Raise a massive army, be friends with a powerful nation like US or Russia and take over the country by force

somalis deep down love dictators, hopefully you will be like the Singaporean founder Lee rather than a dictator who doesn't build the economy or military

How do I do that? Where would I start?
i think about how that’s what’s needed but instead of one man, you would need an SYL style group where every clan is represented because you know how Somalis will fight you to death the moment you dare say i will free the country even though you’re doing it for them. But they aren’t willing to fight Ethiopia and Kenya for genociding them regularly.
These people make me wanna jump out of the window and end it all.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

Raise a massive army, be friends with a powerful nation like US or Russia and take over the country by force

somalis deep down love dictators, hopefully you will be like the Singaporean founder Lee rather than a dictator who doesn't build the economy or military

get rid of 4.5 first thing, Ogaden has lands in the 2 Jubbas, Gedo and Bakool is Cawlyahan Ogaden, but a langab like an idoor and ciise who barely own 1 full gobal for idoor and barely a village for ciise get 60 Mps under dir and never mind eley who get same as whole darood despite darood owning 60% of somalia - it was desinged by jibouti in 2004, very unfair

do a one man one vote and allow every Ogaden to vote from every corner as the constitution allows since 1960 and you will not even need darood, Ogaden is enough - now you know why Hassan sheikh tried to remove NFD and Ogadeniya to not be allowed to vote in a one man one vote, he knows Ogaden will crush him in a fair election, never mind darood

oh and move the capital to Jubbaland, xamar is to wild

Are you okay this is just qabyalad, we don’t need anymore of that. It also makes no sense to allow people outside of mainland somalia to vote.

 

[Boomer]

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Hi sister you’re absolutely spot on. I would take a woman president personally if she was a nationalist and not corrupt. We are losing our country.
I wanted to move back with my kids the last couple years but there’s no place to go back.

i did EE from, graduated in 2017.

 

[Sputnikaa]

How do I do that? Where would I start?
i think about how that’s what’s needed but instead of one man, you would need an SYL style group where every clan is represented because you know how Somalis will fight you to death the moment you dare say i will free the country even though you’re doing it for them. But they aren’t willing to fight Ethiopia and Kenya for genociding them regularly.
These people make me jump out of the window and end it all.

Liyu Police is 170,000, Cagjar increased them from 70,000 to 170K, Abdi Iley took them from 20K to 70K before him, 985 are Ogaden, 100% of foicicers are Ogaden,,. trained and funded by the British

Ahmed Madoobe's 20K Army that embarrassed and whooped Somalia army in 30 minutes are mostly former Liyu police Ogaden soldiers.

I cant believe your Ogaden and your asking where should i get an army, dude your the most landeere Somali clan, simply offer them 1,000 $ each month salary and bring in 50K Liyu boys, you will eat somalia for breakfast

quenstion is how much money you got? raise a few hundred million, dont take over somalia first, take over Ogaden lands like Jubbaland and Bakool Sare, do what ahmed madoobe has failed to do, clean the entire state, build the economy and use that as a launch pad to take over somalia by force,

you have man power as a landeer Ogaden, do you have the resources like money? Absame will follow you if you take over Jubbaland and use that to capture somalia

oh and buy a few J17 Fighter jets, somalia doesn't have air power,

 

[Sputnikaa]

Are you okay this is just qabyalad, we don’t need anymore of that. It also makes no sense to allow people outside of mainland somalia to vote.

Dont chnage the constitution now because you realise one man one vote has back fired since darood is majority in east Africa

kkkkkkkk, siad barre was born in Ogadeniya, I hear even cabdullahi Yusef and few other well known politicians,

you can still chnage the laws, we dont care, if hawiye has realised Darood across the horn will use the majority, then perhaps create your own little country,

also somalia needs a dictator, with vision, civil war is not over my friend, only force can unite somlis

 

[Boomer]

Liyu Police is 170,000, Cagjar increased them from 70,000 to 170K, Abdi Iley took them from 20K to 70K before him, 985 are Ogaden, 100% of foicicers are Ogaden,,. trained and funded by the British

Ahmed Madoobe's 20K Army that embarrassed and whooped Somalia army in 30 minutes are mostly former Liyu police Ogaden soldiers.

I cant believe your Ogaden and your asking where should i get an army, dude your the most landeere Somali clan, simply offer them 1,000 $ each month salary and bring in 50K Liyu boys, you will eat somalia for breakfast

quenstion is how much money you got? raise a few hundred million, dont take over somalia first, take over Ogaden lands like Jubbaland and Bakool Sare, do what ahmed madoobe has failed to do, clean the entire state, build the economy and use that as a launch pad to take over somalia by force,

you have man power as a landeer Ogaden, do you have the resources like money? Absame will follow you if you take over Jubbaland and use that to capture somalia

oh and buy a few J17 Fighter jets, somalia doesn't have air power,

First of all, Tigrays lost the war in the air not on the ground and that’s the same for Armenia recently to Azerbeijan. Wars are decided by drones and jets today and who has the backing of the west. But assuming your suggestion is even possible, how kindly do you think ignorant somali clans who only know qabiil would take when they see what looks like clan inspired revolution?
But I like your suggestion of taking over the Ogaden first, that sounds like something that could galvanize the somali people, at least the patriots.

For me the biggest obstacle i see is the west, and how throughout history they kept the Somali people down and now if we tried, no doubt they would be the first ones to sanction us, arm our enemies and sabotage us. So how can we survive them? Second what superpower nation is willing to help us all the way and supply us with weapons and be our voice and lobby on our behalf ? The only nation that can do it is either china or russia but if they tried fucking America would ramp up support for the opposite side and victory will not be guaranteed and if it is, not before 100s of thousands die like in the Korean war(north vs south russia/america), vietnam war again same thing.
It is very complex but we can at least start by having these discussions.

 

[Sputnikaa]

First of all, Tigrays lost the war in the air not on the ground and that’s the same for Armenia recently to Azerbeijan. Wars are decided by drones and jets today and who has the backing of the west. But assuming your suggestion is even possible, how kindly do you think ignorant somali clans who only know qabiil would take when they see what looks like clan inspired revolution?
But I like your suggestion of taking over the Ogaden first, that sounds like something that could galvanize the somali people, at least the patriots.

For me the biggest obstacle i see is the west, and how throughout history they kept the Somali people down and now if we tried, no doubt they would be the first ones to sanction us, arm our enemies and sabotage us. So how can we survive them? Second what superpower nation is willing to help us all the way and supply us with weapons and be our voice and lobby on our behalf ? The only nation that can do it is either china or russia but if they tried fucking America would ramp up support for the opposite side and victory will not be guaranteed and if it is, not before 100s of thousands die like in the Korean war(north vs south russia/america), vietnam war again same thing.
It is very complex but we can at least start by having these discussions.

1) ignore super powers, deep down they love dictators who can rule a nation, they prefer to deal with one guy, western world really hate third world democracies, its chaotic

2) somalis deep down love a dictator

3) no such as as somalinimo, daroodnimo etc, in fact darood will be your first enemy you must destroy them first, only Absame first policy, to hell with the rest

4) might is right, take over from ras kamboni to zeylac, unite them by force

5) be prepared to fix a lot of problems, failed state for 34 years, no army, no governance,

6) rule the country with confederacy, or strong federalism, central rule is for langabs with cuqadad, centralism always fails,

7) be prepared to karbash a lot of enemies - somalis are very stubborn as a race, difficult to rule

8) create a article 39 or right for any state to become a country so Jubbaland and Absame can go away from a when sugar hits the fan, it will trust me 100%, tigra made this mistake thinking they will rule ethiopia forever rather than get theor own nation kkkkk

9) clear all none Absame out of Jubbaland and make it 100% Absame lands again like in the 1800s when Absame conquered Waamo/Jubbaland and Kenya - remember somalis came as refugees both in Jubbaland and NFD and even Ogadeniya

10) build a strong Jubbaland economy, use somalia resources to build Jubbaland - villa somalia did it to us since 1960, we should return the favour,

 

[Sputnikaa]

You will also need a financial backer for the bribes. Nobody gets elected without paying for votes.

money makes the world go around,

 

[Boomer]

1) ignore super powers, deep down they love dictators who can rule a nation, they prefer to deal with one guy, western world really hate third world democracies, its chaotic

2) somalis deep down love a dictator

3) no such as as somalinimo, daroodnimo etc, in fact darood will be your first enemy you must destroy them first, only Absame first policy, to hell with the rest

4) might is right, take over from ras kamboni to zeylac, unite them by force

5) be prepared to fix a lot of problems, failed state for 34 years, no army, no governance,

6) rule the country with confederacy, or strong federalism, central rule is for langabs with cuqadad, centralism always fails,

7) be prepared to karbash a lot of enemies - somalis are very stubborn as a race, difficult to rule

8) create a article 39 or right for any state to become a country so Jubbaland and Absame can go away from a when sugar hits the fan, it will trust me 100%, tigra made this mistake thinking they will rule ethiopia forever rather than get theor own nation kkkkk

9) clear all none Absame out of Jubbaland and make it 100% Absame lands again like in the 1800s when Absame conquered Waamo/Jubbaland and Kenya - remember somalis came as refugees both in Jubbaland and NFD and even Ogadeniya

10) build a strong Jubbaland economy, use somalia resources to build Jubbaland - villa somalia did it to us since 1960, we should return the favour,

Dude you’re crazy. We are trying to fix the country not add to what is unbelievably shitty already.

 

[Sputnikaa]

Dude you’re crazy. We are trying to fix the country not add to what is unbelievably shitty already.

I dont think your OG by the way, i suspect you, we had too many sheegats here

you need to tell us what sub clan, then your sub sub sub clan, so we know you are a nasab OG

too many sheegats we caught in this forum over the years claiming to be of us to cause fitna

 

[Boomer]

I dont think your OG by the way, i suspect you, we had too many sheegats here

you need to tell us what sub clan, then your sub sub sub clan, so we know you are a nasab OG

too many sheegats we caught in this forum over the years claiming to be of us to cause fitna

Rer abdille.
Also, I am Somali first. My mom isn’t OG neither is my wife, the mother of my children. Qabiil is garbage, let it go.

 

[Sputnikaa]

Rer abdille.
Also, I am Somali first. My mom isn’t OG neither is my wife, the mother of my children. Qabiil is garbage, let it go.

so your foreign on mum side?

reer cabdulle is bigger than the indian ocean and well known,

i want next 4 sub clans down before i label you, i am giving you a chance

qabiil is garbage my ass, somalis like you are the most hardcore qabil ridden, go to hargeysa and see how they call you fagash and treat you kkkkk

what race is your wife/and mum? if they are both not Absame then they are forein, sorry guy

 

[AbdiBashirJR]

Liyu Police is 170,000, Cagjar increased them from 70,000 to 170K, Abdi Iley took them from 20K to 70K before him, 985 are Ogaden, 100% of foicicers are Ogaden,,. trained and funded by the British

Ahmed Madoobe's 20K Army that embarrassed and whooped Somalia army in 30 minutes are mostly former Liyu police Ogaden soldiers.

I cant believe your Ogaden and your asking where should i get an army, dude your the most landeere Somali clan, simply offer them 1,000 $ each month salary and bring in 50K Liyu boys, you will eat somalia for breakfast

quenstion is how much money you got? raise a few hundred million, dont take over somalia first, take over Ogaden lands like Jubbaland and Bakool Sare, do what ahmed madoobe has failed to do, clean the entire state, build the economy and use that as a launch pad to take over somalia by force,

you have man power as a landeer Ogaden, do you have the resources like money? Absame will follow you if you take over Jubbaland and use that to capture somalia

oh and buy a few J17 Fighter jets, somalia doesn't have air power,

If it’s that easy and madoobe has 20k army why is jubbaland 70% controlled by AS

 

[Sputnikaa]

Dude you’re crazy. We are trying to fix the country not add to what is unbelievably shitty already.

stay a civilian, you too nice for politics kid,

no nice guy can rule somalis, one must be a ruthless dictator, accept it or dont,

perhaps you should open a small coffee shop and stop day dreaming about fixing somalia with nice guy hippie fairytales

 

[Sputnikaa]

If it’s that easy and madoobe has 20k army why is jubbaland 70% controlled by AS

because madoobe is a c*nt

also because villa somalia has given madoobe best excuse ever, they attack him each admin and he cries see i am fighting villa somalia

insha Allah Ogadens will pick a neo nazi next president and he will clean alshabab

madobe is perfect for fighting villa somalia and defends jubbaland - only reason Absame tolerate him now