HSM Issues Arrest Order for Madoobe

A nation destroyed by its enemies can be rebuilt, but a nation that is destroyed from within, well thats gone forever.
 
so the issue is, would you guys not support further integration and power reduction for the states when someone better then hsm comes along @TheLand @Abdisamad @Abaq @Pastoralist
I predict that if there is a war in JL or if OG lose it, you will show your true colors and join the qabilist camp like @Abdisamad

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so the issue is, would you guys not support further integration and power reduction for the states when someone better then hsm comes along @TheLand @Abdisamad @Abaq @Pastoralist
HSM named his own friends and clan as the independent election committee. He doesn’t plan on leaving, if Somalis in xamar accept that nonsense and are ok with him staying. Somalia should never have been a country in the first place. Whether a new leader comes or not is irrelevant, 3 terms of Hassan sheikh will do irreparable damage to the country.
 
HSM named his own friends and clan as the independent election committee. He doesn’t plan on leaving, if Somalis in xamar accept that nonsense and are ok with him staying. Somalia should never have been a country in the first place. Whether a new leader comes or not is irrelevant, 3 terms of Hassan sheikh will do irreparable damage to the country.

You guys going from fake federalism to fake secession?
 
I predict that if there is a war in JL or if OG lose it, you will show your true colors and join the qabilist camp like @Abdisamad

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I'm not qabiliste sxb.. The whole of Somalia is based on qabiil, so it's impossible to be free of this sickness.. I have nothing against other Somali qabiils, I see every Somali as a brother or a sister as long us they're not coming to subjugate me and my people, being pro federalism is not qabilism..
 
I predict that if there is a war in JL or if OG lose it, you will show your true colors and join the qabilist camp like @Abdisamad

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Who knows, but I know one thing for certain i will always advocate for somaliweyn regardless. One state alone is nothing, there is no net benefit here. This system was put in place to keep us down what do you not understand about this. And also how come you are not including your self ??? But ill tell you one thing none of this wouldve happened if we had a better leader. There are so many better ways to deal with the too big too powerful states. But this guy HSM thats not what he wants everyone knows his goal thats why you see how happy Jungle is.
 
I'm not qabiliste sxb.. The whole of Somalia is based on qabiil, so it's impossible to be free of this sickness.. I have nothing against other Somali qabiils, I see every Somali as a brother or a sister as long us they're not coming to subjugate me and my people, being pro federalism is not qabilism..
Listen this thing we have here cannot be described as federalism wlhi at the present moment its a confederalist system strapped together by aid and god knows what else.. Its a sad state of affairs that began with the terrible 4.5 garbage put in place. In a federalist system, states were never meant to be this large. So to see people potray me as some centralist guy who wants to control every degmo from muqdisho thats not the case. No country can do this. You must devolve the power to the necessary regional sub units. But the problem we have here is the states are too big, and the powers they have is too much. But another problem we have is the national government and its incompetency, we need a strong leader, the parliement-- useless. Its too much to explain
 
HSM named his own friends and clan as the independent election committee. He doesn’t plan on leaving, if Somalis in xamar accept that nonsense and are ok with him staying. Somalia should never have been a country in the first place. Whether a new leader comes or not is irrelevant, 3 terms of Hassan sheikh will do irreparable damage to the country.
Without a doubt it will, the problem is everyone supporting candidates by qabil and now they got a good puppet who will go low enough to cut the cake for the current king of a country who colonized us. The saddest part is he was with some low level ambassador. I mean its clear he has to go, I mean we need something like 1969 we need a whole reset and this problem of 4.5 and states will be solved. If he gets another term the fate for somalis will be sealed for the next 100 years. I will just leave it.
 
Who knows, but I know one thing for certain i will always advocate for somaliweyn regardless. One state alone is nothing, there is no net benefit here. This system was put in place to keep us down what do you not understand about this. And also how come you are not including your self ??? But ill tell you one thing none of this wouldve happened if we had a better leader. There are so many better ways to deal with the too big too powerful states. But this guy HSM thats not what he wants everyone knows his goal thats why you see how happy Jungle is.
Bro you cannot force people who don't want unity nor want any functioning country, they're accusing Madobe of treason against the nation while HSM attended a ceremony to honor a dead seccesionist leader just few days ago, beside JL never signed off any Somali coast or soil to a foreign country, Madoobe only disagreed to HSM home brewed constitution which grants him a term extension and the ability to manipulate and elect governers for federal member states, while Muse signed the MoU as you know, now where is the arrest warrant for Muse Bixi? You need to look at the bigger picture here sxb, ask questions and form a perspective. This is what I've done instead of blindly following a non existing Somaliweyn ideology.
 
Puntland tried to tell reer Jubaland leave HSM alone, We were accused of wanting the PM seat looool.
Axmed madoobe was working closely with HSM for the past two years signing every NCC agreement which later became constitutional amendments. He signed over Kismayo airport and Seaport. He signed over the power to hold Elections at the State level to the Federal government then held his own election.

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You just can’t go around signing things and expect to not be held to it, thats how you know this man sees the ‘Jubbaland constitution' as a recommendation :ftw9nwa:
 
Run hada rabtiin Madoobe has too much power in the eyes of the Gov especially with his connection to PL. Tbh if I was president I would first take down a newer fledgling state under my domain than Sland which I have no control over.

Still the silaanyo gathering is the nail in the coffin. If I was darood you best believe I would think that Hawiye are trying to protect that Irir card with Isaaq to help in the future if we ever have 1man 1 vote. If HSM was serious he would've sent forces north with the support of the locals and crush the whole Somaliland charade but unfortunately for him the only forces he really has is amisom....
 
Bro you cannot force people who don't want unity nor want any functioning country, they're accusing Madobe of treason against the nation while HSM attended a ceremony to honor a dead seccesionist leader just few days ago, beside JL never signed off any Somali coast or soil to a foreign country, Madoobe only disagreed to HSM home brewed constitution which grants him a term extension and the ability to manipulate and elect governers for federal member states, while Muse signed the MoU as you know, now where is the arrest warrant for Muse Bixi? You need to look at the bigger picture here sxb, ask questions and form a perspective. This is what I've done instead of blindly following a non existing Somaliweyn ideology.
What youre saying is tue, but I am looking at the bigger picture here. I was not clear enough but what I mean by always supporting somaliweyn is not by blindly supporting the central leader and government. If you see my posts im very critical of all of the recent leaders of the national government. Aswell as the taxi cab parliment, I dont know how we got into this situation of everlasting incompetency but what Im trying to say is once we get past this I will always support somaliweyn. Thats why I was agreeing with a person earlier, talking about how it will shake up this toxic relation between the states and federal government. But man the leader in charge is just ... dont forget about the kings birthday party he celebrated with a insignificant uk ambassador. Sad times. Thats why I expect big change to happen at the national level that will tie us all back together.
 

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Oromia is much more respectable anyway sxb 😂

*ethiopian

this preceding of events shows how dumb Hassan actually is
•upon getting elected, he irritates Ethiopia by throwing the deal for port access they made with farmaajo in the trash.
•he gets closer to Egypt and moves away from Eritrea in 2022, which tells Ethiopia they are now dealing with an enemy.
•after two years of Ethiopia saying they will target a country for a port, they announce their plan with SL
•dameer makes a suprised face only to tell them that they are ready for war. Which is clearly a lie since Hassan hasn’t taken any massive undertaking to train troops at this point. The Ugandan troops are weak, he massacred and destroyed the 5000 Eritrean trained troops, and refused to pay the UAE trained troops.
•after dameer gets humbled at the AU meeting, getting manhandled by xabashi at the AU summit, he offers 5 ports to Ethiopia for sea access. Which placed him back where Farmaajo was with his xabashi port deal.

All that buuq iyo balayo for nothing and now you’ve made an enemy for no reason who annexed gedo and SWS.
 

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Cant really see the issue you have with them selling land to Ethiopian if they do because either you think they dont exist in which case they will have sold nothing or you think they do in which case it would be their right to. Pick one.
They do exist as an autonomous region, however they’re still part and parcel part of Somalia until they have referendum. How are you going to give a base to Somalia’s greatest enemy who massacred civilians in the capital during 2006 and think it’ll fly.
 

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