HSM's critics are just straight up against a strong Somalia.

[Dalac Bilaash]

He is literally doing everything he can to bring back this nation's glory. All of his critics are just straight qabiilists who don't want anything to be done unless it's their qabiil in charge if it ain't my qabiil I'm against it Mentality sucks I hope you guys get over that primitive mentality and think beyond what's good for the whole country.

 

[Pastoralist]

Supporting hassan means you want Somalia’s balkanization. that’s unequivocally true.

Once he dissolved the anti corruption committee early into his term (p.s. link down below) to hide his misdeeds, everyone knew what they were in for. As someone who supported him for his first few months, this revisionist view of Hassan is a pathetic attempt to subvert people from the reality on the ground.

Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya oo baabi'iyay guddiyadii golaha adeegga garsoorka iyo la dagaalanka musuq maasuqa ee dowladdii hore ay dhistay

Axad, October, 9, 2022 (HOL) - Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Xasan Sheikh Maxamuud ayaa wareegto uu soo saaray ku baabi’iyay guddiyada golaha adeega garsoorka Soomaaliya iyo la-dagaalanka musuqmaasuqa, kuwaas oo ahaa labo guddi oo ay sameysay ama howlgalisay dowladdii hore ee Madaxweyne Farmaajo.

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[Zak12]

Some of those feats like debt relief and arms embargo were started by Farmajo lol

 

[Pastoralist]

HSM=MSB. Others may disagree to say one is better than the other, but my opinion is they’re both equally as destructive to Somalia.

 

[IKHALIIL]

Some of those feats like debt relief and arms embargo were started by Farmajo lol

Lol debt relief was initiated in hassans first term under finance minister fargeeti and the partial lifting of the arms embargo (of lethal weapons) has been in the works since 2013 with amendments to it under every administration since culminating in the total lifting of the arms embargo exactly one year and 8 days ago.

#QABYO QOFKEEDA DHAMEYSTIRA

 

[Abdisamad]

The problem with hsm is there's no transparency, if he isn't corrupt why does he want to extend his term before it even expires? Also if he's a good leader and wants what's best for Somalia why did he not implement policies that enhances federalism and unites all federal member states around his government? Now he wants to use the SNA to attack kismayo, while the troops can't even drive from muqdisho to kismayo without encountering Al shabab check points..

 

[Abdisamad]

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Monday December 9, 2024

Mogadishu (HOL) — Commander of the 5th Battalion, 16th Division of the Danab Commando Unit operating in Jubbaland, Aarab Dheeg Ahmed, has called on the Somali military to avoid involvement in the ongoing political standoff between the Federal Government and Jubbaland leadership.

Captain Ahmed urged his troops and other branches of the armed forces to focus on their primary mission—combating al-Shabaab insurgents.
"Our job is not to get involved in political disputes. Our only enemy is the Khawarij [al-Shabaab]. I urge the army to concentrate on their duties as the political dispute will eventually end," he stated.

Captain Ahmed also raised concerns about perceived inequality in military promotions, highlighting that Jubbaland soldiers who recently joined the federal military have been rapidly promoted, while longstanding members of the Danab unit remain overlooked.

"We have previously requested the highest leadership to provide military promotions, but there has been no response. Yet, we see soldiers joining from Jubbaland State getting promoted easily," the commander added.

The remarks come amid heightened tensions following the federal government's deployment of over 1,000 troops to the Lower Jubba region to take over security responsibilities from the African Union Transition Mission in Somalia (ATMIS), whose mandate expires in January 2025. The deployment exacerbated the strained relationship between Mogadishu and Jubbaland leader Ahmed Madobe.

Recently, nearly 500 Jubbaland forces were integrated into the federal military in the Lower Jubba region, reflecting efforts to centralize control amid disputes over governance and electoral processes.




















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[MuseGuud]

He is literally doing everything he can to bring back this nation's glory. All of his critics are just straight qabiilists who don't want anything to be done unless it's their qabiil in charge if it ain't my qabiil I'm against it Mentality sucks I hope you guys get over that primitive mentality and think beyond what's good for the whole country.

Keep pushing that fake MBB narrative, Debt relief and Arms ambargo are multi-administration achievements that started a decade ago.
The illegal constitutional amendments to centralize power by HSM doesn't matter as it's still provisional until Somaliland accepts it and a country wide referendum is held in all 18 regions. PL has already invoked Article 4 and is not part of this shit show.
The 1P1V is just an excuse for an extension and also another chance to dominate state elections. The federal election committee which will be manipulated by HSM and Co will manage Federal, State and Municipal elections which is a power grab as the country is federal not unitary.
The 2012 provisional constitution only allowed the Independent Electoral Commission to manage elections for the President and the federal parliament. It's also a closed-list proportional representation still based on 4.5
This is turn takes the power to select MPs from elders/states and hands it over to political parties.
Each political party will submit a list of 275 MPs based on 4.5.
It is crucial to have separation of political parties at the state and Federal level as federal and state. governments have different responsibilities.

The 2012 Provisional Constitution.

Post March 30 2024 Amendments for the Federal election committee

 

[Step a side]

Keep pushing that fake MBB narrative, Debt relief and Arms ambargo are multi-administration achievements that started a decade ago.
The illegal constitutional amendments to centralize power by HSM doesn't matter as it's still provisional until Somaliland accepts it and a country wide referendum is held in all 18 regions. PL has already invoked Article 4 and is not part of this shit show.
The 1P1V is just an excuse for an extension and also another chance to dominate state elections. The federal election committee which will be manipulated by HSM and Co will manage Federal, State and Municipal elections which is a power grab as the country is federal not unitary.
The 2012 provisional constitution only allowed the Independent Electoral Commission to manage elections for the President and the federal parliament. It's also a closed-list proportional representation still based on 4.5
This is turn takes the power to select MPs from elders/states and hands it over to political parties.
Each political party will submit a list of 275 MPs based on 4.5.
It is crucial to have separation of political parties at the state and Federal level as federal and state. governments have different responsibilities.

The 2012 Provisional Constitution.
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Post March 30 2024 Amendments for the Federal election committee

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Thanks. You saved my time typing this all up. These HSM supporters don’t want to admit that HSM is a total failure that only seeks a dictatorship. It’s sad to see there are people out there that still support him. He literally did nothing to improve the lives of the people. All he does is rob public lands/properties and calaacal from the masaajid every Fridays when shit don’t go his way.

 

[Jungle]

Thanks. You saved my time typing this all up. These HSM supporters don’t want to admit that HSM is a total failure that only seeks a dictatorship. It’s sad to see there are people out there that still support him. He literally did nothing to improve the lives of the people. All he does is rob public lands/properties and calaacal from the masaajid every Fridays when shit don’t go his way.

Waqtigaga waxaad ku dhameesane mucaarad. Fasax hawiye aad ubahantahy ka hor madaxweyne taas habeen iyo maalin ka helimeysid hawiye awoodna meesha kuma haysid bacaaac

 

[TheLand]

Thanks. You saved my time typing this all up. These HSM supporters don’t want to admit that HSM is a total failure that only seeks a dictatorship. It’s sad to see there are people out there that still support him. He literally did nothing to improve the lives of the people. All he does is rob public lands/properties and calaacal from the masaajid every Fridays when shit don’t go his way.

Cunug xun aatahay hawiye aqoon…he’s my uncle waryaa…Abgaal swimming pool hanoolato laangaabyahow

 

[MuseGuud]

Thanks. You saved my time typing this all up. These HSM supporters don’t want to admit that HSM is a total failure that only seeks a dictatorship. It’s sad to see there are people out there that still support him. He literally did nothing to improve the lives of the people. All he does is rob public lands/properties and calaacal from the masaajid every Fridays when shit don’t go his way.

Goals for HSM
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Defeat Alshabab - Phase 1 isn't even finished and he has only a year and a half left.
ATMIS Withdrawal - A whole new mission called AUSSOM is starting in 2025 and the Ethiopian forces stationed in Gedo and Bay are not leaving by Dec 31st.
Finishing the constitution with all the stakeholders on-board - PL already disagreed with the first four chapters and there's still another 10 or 11 to go.
Stop the Somaliland MOU - Until now Ethiopia hasn't retracted the MoU with Somaliland.
Maintaining peace & working on reconciliation - over 10 different on-going clan wars.
1P1V - The bills for the sham election just went through the parliament 2 weeks ago. 17 months to get Voter registration, political parties, Hold Local elections, Hold state elections and federal elections. A mission impossible if you ask me without a 2 year extension.

 

[Midas]

I've never been a fan of hsm and I'm still not. But it's obvious that certain circumstances have forced him to take positions that are beneficial for somalia in the long term. That fact is most of the criticism is obviously anti somalia being centralized. I mean look at the puntland guy who said that maybe somalia wasnt ready to have its debt forgiven and didn't deserve it. Like wtf is that??!! Even if you don't like hsm there is obviously no downside for our debt to be forgiven and it's beneficial for all future somalis govts. You can tell that was motivated by qabylad.

 

[TheLand]

I've never been a fan of hsm and I'm still not. But it's obvious that certain circumstances have forced him to take positions that are beneficial for somalia in the long term. That fact is most of the criticism is obviously anti somalia being centralized. I mean look at the puntland guy who said that maybe somalia wasnt ready to have its debt forgiven and didn't deserve it. Like wtf is that??!! Even if you don't like hsm there is obviously no downside for our debt to be forgiven and it's beneficial for all future somalis govts. You can tell that was motivated by qabylad.

Who was that guy?

 

[MuseGuud]

I've never been a fan of hsm and I'm still not. But it's obvious that certain circumstances have forced him to take positions that are beneficial for somalia in the long term. That fact is most of the criticism is obviously anti somalia being centralized. I mean look at the puntland guy who said that maybe somalia wasnt ready to have its debt forgiven and didn't deserve it. Like wtf is that??!! Even if you don't like hsm there is obviously no downside for our debt to be forgiven and it's beneficial for all future somalis govts. You can tell that was motivated by qabylad.

But that's a fact, Somalia wasn't ready to have it's debt forgiven. It's a bunker government abusing whatever little power it has. The Federal constitution should've been finished and a proper power sharing agreement in place before any new Debt is taken. Getting billions of dollars in loans when there is no political settlement, rule of law, or proper institutions in place is disastrous

 

[TheLand]

But that's a fact, Somalia wasn't ready to have it's debt forgiven. It's a bunker government abusing whatever little power it has. The Federal constitution should've been finished and a proper power sharing agreement in place before any new Debt is taken using the Somali name.

I guess he doesn’t understand that the end game is new debt at higher rates due to higher world-wide inflation. That money of course will be stolen by whomever is in charge at the time and will have to be paid back by Somalia as a whole.

 

[Midas]

But that's a fact, Somalia wasn't ready to have it's debt forgiven. It's a bunker government abusing whatever little power it has. The Federal constitution should've been finished and a proper power sharing agreement in place before any new Debt is taken. Getting billions of dollars in loans when there is no political settlement, rule of law, or proper institutions in place is disastrous

Im sorry but It's absolutely insane to argue that somalia doesn't "deserve" debt forgiveness based off some hypothetical speculation that we will somehow now get billions in future loans.

 

[TheLand]

Im sorry but It's absolutely insane to argue that somalia doesn't "deserve" debt forgiveness based off some hypothetical speculation that we will somehow now get billions in future loans.

What is hypothetical about it? Do you have any doubt that Somalia will require billions in future loans?

 

[Midas]

Here's the video look how insane this sounds.




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Very realistic and pragmatic! <br>What is your view to this question? <a href="https://twitter.com/PuntlandBFair?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@PuntlandBFair</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PuntlandBookFair?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#PuntlandBookFair</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PBF2024?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#PBF2024</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FederalismAy20?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#FederalismAy20</a> <a href="https://t.co/8wz58RckTA">pic.twitter.com/8wz58RckTA</a></p>&mdash; Xoosh Docol (@Xooshdocol) <a href="">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Midas]

What is hypothetical about it? Do you have any doubt that Somalia will require billions in future loans?

Yes it will. But that will be over the course of years. The idea that after debt forgivnwss that hsm will suddenly be given acess to several billion dollars in loans is laughable. On top of that To argue that somalia should "earn " the right to have its debt forgiven is illogical. I could use this to argue somalia shouldn't dig out oil because it hasn't "earned "