I’m Somali and I’m not black or Arab, because I am African.

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

All cushites are tall due to our Proto nilotic dna.
The odd ones out are the Habashi who intermixed with midget Yemeni semites.

Somalis need to be grateful for Nilotic DNA, it's thanks to them that Somalis are tall, and have elegant features and noses.

 

[Khaem]

Nilotes have elongated features and little button noses also. All those men above, look like they are part Nilotic and part Asiatic, as is the DNA we carry.

Nilotic women:


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Most nilotes don't look like that..
You picked photos of models from ethnic background who obviously will look more western then what their ethnicity normally looks like which could be mistaken for east African features.

 

[Cush]

All cushites are tall due to our Proto nilotic dna.
The odd ones out are the Habashi who intermixed with midget Yemeni semites.

Actually this has been disproven, they have the J1 P56 haplogroup which originated from the Levant and not Yemen, which is an Indo European mutation which entered from Egypt, Persians, Turks etc further proving the expansion they also have P58 to further evidence this

And what's funny is Yemenis have E-M84 a Xabashi haplogroup

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Nilotes have elongated features and little button noses also. All those men above, look like they are part Nilotic and part Asiatic, as is the DNA we carry.

Nilotic women:


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You keep looking at ancient admixture going back thousands of years as if that means something. Somalis and Horners in general are our own separate people, separate from both Natufians and African groups we mixed with. People like Indo-Europeans came from the Eurasian steppe long after our admixture and spread to the Middle East, South Asia and Europe yet you don’t call them mixed so why us?
Most Nilotes don’t look like that to begin with lol, it’s only the extinct Cushitic mixed nilotes that have that look

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Most nilotes don't look like that..
You picked photos of models from ethnic background who obviously will look more western then what their ethnicity normally looks like which could be mistaken for east African features.

The woman on the right looks like a Somali woman with kinkier hair. This is where Somalis get their beauty. I wish you would all recognise and respect your ancestry and Allah's perfect creation.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

And what's funny is Yemenis have E-M84 a Xabashi haplogroup

It’s the other way around

 

[Emir of Zayla]

The woman on the right looks like a Somali woman with kinkier hair. This is where Somalis get their beauty. I wish you would all recognise and respect your ancestry and Allah's perfect creation.

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Nah wallahi your delusional at this point.

 

[Cush]

The woman on the right looks like a Somali woman with kinkier hair. This is where Somalis get their beauty. I wish you would all recognise and respect your ancestry and Allah's perfect creation.

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On average Nilotes have 20% Bantu, they look completely different to our proto ancestors who looked way more Somali, also the Nilotes have NO ANCESTRY with the Bantus, they were expansionists from the Niger Congo regions and have ghost DNA, I will never identify with those people
Also many many Nilotes are actually originally Cushitic like the Luos who dominate from south western Kenya to as far as Uganda and they share the E-Z813 sub clade with us with a TMRCA of only 4000 years, basically our clansmen lol

 

[Emir of Zayla]

I will not sit in delusion and pretend that I am not an African

No shit you want a cookie?

 

[Khaem]

The woman on the right looks like a Somali woman with kinkier hair. This is where Somalis get their beauty. I wish you would all recognise and respect your ancestry and Allah's perfect creation.

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The girl on right does not look somali what are you smoking cuz

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

You keep looking at ancient admixture going back thousands of years as if that means something. Somalis and Horners in general are our own separate people, separate from both Natufians and African groups we mixed with. People like Indo-Europeans came from the Eurasian steppe long after our admixture and spread to the Middle East, South Asia and Europe yet you don’t call them mixed so why us?

I am Somali and that's all I identify as, but the same way you guys love to associate with the 40% Asiatic, I don't have an issue acknowledging the Nilotic component in our DNA.

I can see where Somalis get their beauty and it's not the Arab/North-African DNA that did the heavy lifting.

 

[Cush]

The woman on the right looks like a Somali woman with kinkier hair. This is where Somalis get their beauty. I wish you would all recognise and respect your ancestry and Allah's perfect creation.

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She has no Somali features exept her nose looing a bit Smali, a very very dark looking southern with her face reconstructed, we are too distant from these people, it's like comparing Turks with Persians and Arabs and Meditaranians based on their features, who look way more similar to each other than us blacks and Nilotes, this is absurd

 

[Emir of Zayla]

On average Nilotes have 20% Bantu, they look completely different to our proto ancestors who looked way more Somali, also the Nilotes have NO ANCESTRY with the Bantus, they were expansionists from the Niger Congo regions and have ghost DNA, I will never identify with those people
Also many many Nilotes are actually originally Cushitic like the Luos who dominate from south western Kenya to as far as Uganda and they share the E-Z813 sub clade with us with a TMRCA of only 4000 years, basically our clansmen lol
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We didn’t mix with proto-nilotes to begin with but East African hunter gatherers who had some similarity to them. Not the same people

 

[Khaem]

I don't need acceptance from anyone, but I will not sit in delusion and pretend that I am not an African, who carries the DNA of the darkest humans on planet earth.

Hawiye having higher Nilotic DNA doesn't mean they mixed with slaves, nor were our ancestors 'slaves'. You need to get a grip.

Clans are a bad way to determine genetics...
Clans were just a thing societies, especially nomads, used to secure resources in tough areas. There could be someone from a different clan who's more related to you than someone from your own clan.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

But the same way you guys love to associate with the 40% Asiatic

I really don’t care about either side, as I said before that’s ancient admixture and it doesn’t matter. We’re our own separate people now

 

[Cush]

It’s the other way around

Nope the majority of Yemenis are J1 haplogroup from IEs, E-M84 is purely Xabashi and can be found as far as the Indus which they colonized, plus they say it was in Akkadia and their crowns were the ones Haile Selassie and other royalty wore

 

[Cush]

I don't need acceptance from anyone, but I will not sit in delusion and pretend that I am not an African, who carries the DNA of the darkest humans on planet earth.

Hawiye having higher Nilotic DNA doesn't mean they mixed with slaves, nor were our ancestors 'slaves'. You need to get a grip.

They did mix with slaves because they have A haplogroup Abgaals obviously if you have 400 slaves and they become free or you have kids with them or build and bond and they intermarry you will feel guilt, so they will of course join the tribe
And they have stories of mixing with each other, some of them look normal Cushitic while random ones look nilotic it shows the mixing

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I really don’t care about either side, as I said before that’s ancient admixture and it doesn’t matter. We’re our own separate people now

I agree that we are our own people, but the only thing I have an issue with, is this disdain for 50-60% of our heritage and the same skin-tone as most Somalis.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Clans are a bad way to determine genetics...
Clans were just a thing societies, especially nomads, used to secure resources in tough areas. There could be someone from a different clan who's more related to you than someone from your own clan.

From my suugo science eyeballing, I have noticed that some clans have a higher number of dark-skinned people and if it's true that some clans have highter SSA, then, it does make sense.

 

[Cush]

I agree that we are our own people, but the only thing I have an issue with, is this disdain for 50-60% of our heritage and the same skin-tone as most Somalis.

Actually according to genetic companies our DNA is 60-70% Natufian on average, had we been 40% we'd look much darker with much more Madow hair