I want to leave the west

[xyro]

I don't see a long term future here anymore. Cost of living is high, crime is high, property prices are stupid & Progressive woke liberal culture is really insufferable.

Also I've come to the conclusion that living in ethnically diverse places isn't a good thing because it leads to low levels of social trust which in turn leads to insanely high rates of loneliness, a lack of a sense of community & the perfect environment for criminality to thrive.

I don't want to pay £500,000 for a crappy house in a crappy neighborhood full of "roadman" & pink haired ghetto/liberal women

I just want to live in a place that is safe, has a sense of community, a sense of culture & where cost of living can get you to far places

Also the right wing political shift is something to worry about too.

I just feel tired.

 

[The truth seeker]

Asia and Latin America are catching up at rapid speed pretty soon most western countries won’t have economies that are in the top 10 since there stagnating

Mexico is on the rise all they have to do is get rid of cartels and they’ll be developed in 15 years time there GDP is growing really fast will probably overtake Canada’s in 5 -7years . NAFTA and near shoring/regionalization has been a game changer

The future of the global economy is in the pacific rim countries while Europe’s share of global gdp has halved in the past 40 years

 

[Ashraf]

“Most western countries wont have economies in the top 10 since they’re stagnating”

What is bro smoking, a world without europe and North America dominating the world is a world they wouldn’t live in. They’d jus nuke it to oblivion. As for Latin America across the board they have about 2% gdp growth rate and 1.98 births per woman or sum. Not exactly a recipe for an economic miracle which is what it would take to surpass western countries. Don’t even get me started on brain drain, crime rate, literacy rates, healthcare, debt and others. Europe is cooked because their largest companies relocate to America in times for economic hardship, and their economics relied heavily on cheap Russian oil+gas which is no longer available. And Mexico getting rid of cartels is akin to current Somalia getting rid of kebab. Practically impossible with all the foreign meddling.
All economies stagnate, and western countries have a way lower growth rate but their growth rate represents billions.

 

[The truth seeker]

“Most western countries wont have economies in the top 10 since they’re stagnating”

What is bro smoking, a world without europe and North America dominating the world is a world they wouldn’t live in. They’d jus nuke it to oblivion. As for Latin America across the board they have about 2% gdp growth rate and 1.98 births per woman or sum. Not exactly a recipe for an economic miracle which is what it would take to surpass western countries. Don’t even get me started on brain drain, crime rate, literacy rates, healthcare, debt and others. Europe is cooked because their largest companies relocate to America in times for economic hardship, and their economics relied heavily on cheap Russian oil+gas which is no longer available. And Mexico getting rid of cartels is akin to current Somalia getting rid of kebab. Practically impossible with all the foreign meddling.
All economies stagnate, and western countries have a way lower growth rate but their growth rate represents billions.

There can’t be only one country carrying western hegemony


These are the predictions for 2050 the days of a western dominated global economy

is coming to an end

 

[Ashraf]

There can’t be only one country carrying western hegemony


These are the predictions for 2050 the days of a western dominated global economyView attachment 355989 is coming to an end

India being top 3 is enough for me to know this is cap. They’d need a cultural revolution or something akin to maos Great Leap Forward. Their brain drain is an insane topic alone check out their diaspora. And Nigeria being to 5 in 2075 is also crazy. They have a similar gdp per capita to Somalia and the largest population in Africa and one of the highest fertility rates. They’re a glorified Somalia tbh, and their political elite are just as corrupt as ours. Their economy is extremely reliant on oil and for a population of that size an attempt to diversify that economy by scaling back oil production would drop the gdp so much it could cause a massive collapse. Oil keeps the Nigerian state and nation afloat at the expense of everything else. Crazy unemployment tests due to oil making other sectors of the economy unsustainable, and that’s before we even take into account foreign meddling. I remember hearing about a president that wanted to build Nigeria an oil refinery as was toppled in a coup.

 

[The truth seeker]

India being top 3 is enough for me to know this is cap. They’d need a cultural revolution or something akin to maos Great Leap Forward. Their brain drain is an insane topic alone check out their diaspora

This is Goldman Sachs info gdp does not mean higher living standards

 

[Wabari]

It’s not just you, Walaal. Don’t you see all the Westerners moving to countries like Japan and other Asian nations? Even a lot of Cadaans have bought properties in Mexico mostly Americans and even some Canadians. Many people are realizing that their money can do more for them elsewhere. And that’s not even mentioning how bad Western countries are becoming. I’ve traveled a lot, so I know that Western countries aren’t really the ideal place to live if you want to start a family or just chill. Many friends I know have moved to Japan permanently too it’s crazy!

 

[cunug3aad]

Sometimes i wanna go somalia just geeljire on my own for the rest of my life. But i grew up in london wax ma aqaano about animal rearing or nomadism in general

 

[Ashraf]

Sometimes i wanna go somalia just geeljire on my own for the rest of my life. But i grew up in london wax ma aqaano about animal rearing or nomadism in general

Facts

 

[Nilote2]

I don't see a long term future here anymore. Cost of living is high, crime is high, property prices are stupid & Progressive woke liberal culture is really insufferable.

Also I've come to the conclusion that living in ethnically diverse places isn't a good thing because it leads to low levels of social trust which in turn leads to insanely high rates of loneliness, a lack of a sense of community & the perfect environment for criminality to thrive.

I don't want to pay £500,000 for a crappy house in a crappy neighborhood full of "roadman" & pink haired ghetto/liberal women

I just want to live in a place that is safe, has a sense of community, a sense of culture & where cost of living can get you to far places

Also the right wing political shift is something to worry about too.

I just feel tired.

If you're serious about leaving you should make a 10-15 year plan so that you have something to fall back on. My parents left after I was done with high school but it took years of planning.

Questions you need to ask yourself.

1) Are you working a job that brings in enough income to start investing back home?

2) How do you plan on supporting yourself when you move back?

3) Are you comfortable living a simpler life?

4) Do you have kids/planning to start a family soon? (School fees, medical bills etc will eventually crop up).

5) Are you burdened by family/relatives?

6) If Somalia is your preferred destination, is there a big enough market to start your preferred business? E.g Somalis in Kenya have the benefit of a bigger market.

It's fully possible, my friend is relocating as we speak but he has two well paying jobs and works his ass off. He also married from back home to avoid the Westernised type.

Use your passport to your advantage and start planning a slow transition. If you travel back home once a year like I do, you might feel different in 10 years since you know there is no rush.

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

I don't see a long term future here anymore. Cost of living is high, crime is high, property prices are stupid & Progressive woke liberal culture is really insufferable.

Also I've come to the conclusion that living in ethnically diverse places isn't a good thing because it leads to low levels of social trust which in turn leads to insanely high rates of loneliness, a lack of a sense of community & the perfect environment for criminality to thrive.

I don't want to pay £500,000 for a crappy house in a crappy neighborhood full of "roadman" & pink haired ghetto/liberal women

I just want to live in a place that is safe, has a sense of community, a sense of culture & where cost of living can get you to far places

Also the right wing political shift is something to worry about too.

I just feel tired.

Sxb now add on the fact of you will not own nothing. For instance once your parent pay off there house and they pass it don't to you guess what you have to pay 40% pay on it. Wilhi they want people to just to work like a slave and dye and while turning there kids gay at the same time

 

[Nilote2]

I don't see a long term future here anymore. Cost of living is high, crime is high, property prices are stupid & Progressive woke liberal culture is really insufferable.

Also I've come to the conclusion that living in ethnically diverse places isn't a good thing because it leads to low levels of social trust which in turn leads to insanely high rates of loneliness, a lack of a sense of community & the perfect environment for criminality to thrive.

I don't want to pay £500,000 for a crappy house in a crappy neighborhood full of "roadman" & pink haired ghetto/liberal women

I just want to live in a place that is safe, has a sense of community, a sense of culture & where cost of living can get you to far places

Also the right wing political shift is something to worry about too.

I just feel tired.

The worst part is that your kids might get sucked into the wrong crowd if you grow up in a segregated community. This is the trend I'm seeing in the UK and Sweden, everyone wants to be a roadman these days.

 

[xyro]

If you're serious about leaving you should make a 10-15 year plan so that you have something to fall back on. My parents left after I was done with high school but it took years of planning.

Questions you need to ask yourself.

1) Are you working a job that brings in enough income to start investing back home?

2) How do you plan on supporting yourself when you move back?

3) Are you comfortable living a simpler life?

4) Do you have kids/planning to start a family soon? (School fees, medical bills etc will eventually crop up).

5) Are you burdened by family/relatives?

6) If Somalia is your preferred destination, is there a big enough market to start your preferred business? E.g Somalis in Kenya have the benefit of a bigger market.

It's fully possible, my friend is relocating as we speak but he has two well paying jobs and works his ass off. He also married from back home to avoid the Westernised type.

Use your passport to your advantage and start planning a slow transition. If you travel back home once a year like I do, you might feel different in 10 years since you know there is no rush.

I've thought about this a lot & I've got plans I've been working on for a few years now. But I agree the only way to survive over there is to have a remote job or a business.

When do you reckon you will have fully transitioned back by?

 

[xyro]

Sometimes i wanna go somalia just geeljire on my own for the rest of my life. But i grew up in london wax ma aqaano about animal rearing or nomadism in general

Gain some valuable skills whilst you still can & start a business back home. Imagine having a business, a big ass house, a farm & being near the coast. It's literal perfection & all you need in life.

 

[Taintedlove]

Can't relate. I'll probably move when I grow older, but I'll be staying in the UK to gain qualifications and find a partnèr here.

I'm indifferent to progressivism/liberalism, but I am worried about the growth if the far-right. But it is unlikely reform UK will form a government until 2034 at the earliest.

I'm also not that worried about roadman culture. I live in a pretty nice surburb. But if such things do go down south, I might move to kenya for my children's vulnerable years.

I do wanna start a company in Somaliland/somalia in the near future though.