I want your advice guys. This is serious waryaya.

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Sister, 'dayooth'/ cuckhold in the Islamic context/ defintion of the word is not the same as the Western one. I understand why you misunderstood, though as this is how it is commonly understood in the West. I would never call anybody something like that, that's disgusting.

A dayooth/cuckhold in the Islamic sense is a man who has no protective jealousy or pride e.g. a man who does not mind and maybe encourages his wife to tart herself up when they go out so every man may look at her, is a dayooth.
You're obsessed with this word. Just give it rest, dude.
 

Bahal

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These people cannot be reasoned with

If the situation were reversed chicken oriental would be apoplectic with rage.

This is why you should never allow your children to be indoctrinated by Arab supremacists.
 
The so-called bad decision making of the OP is not whats in question here.

But the unlawful actions of the Arab father and sons who inflicted serious injury upon him is what is being debated here and the aftermath of how to deal with that.

The OP can reflect on his decision making skills after he has dealt with this and recieved justice.

Unless you are the type to think the action of honor killing or honor beat downs is some Haqq and not some backwards shit from Arab culture.

Who decided what we could and could not talk about?

OP was wrong for talking to that girl and going behind the girl's father's back. If he had done the honourable thing and seen the father and then got beaten up, he would be the victim. But that is not what happened. He tried to get it on with the girl and he got his butt kicked. Now he wants to start world war three instead of just licking his wounds and moving on. He was in the wrong to begin with and now he wants to kick something else off. I am just telling OP to realise his wrongdoing and not to repeat the same mistake again. If an arab had come complaining about getting his butt kicked by some Somalis because he was trying to get it on with their daughter/sister, I would have said the same thing to him.
 

VixR

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Seeing as the most popular response to this isn't to face the men or press charges, but the craven route of releasing a sextape of the girl, the aggression of Arab father and brothers is made more understandable to me. Ileen we're typically dealing with xoollos here, and it's a stroke of coincidence the OP shot the suggestion down.
 

ace mooha

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They have every right to defend their sister/daughter against a man who wishes to commit zina with her. But you are right, he is a Muslim and that level of violence is unnecessary. The actions of the arabs does not change the bad decision-making of OP and his inability to see that and the thought that he should seek retribution is just bizarre.
Waryaa, I never had the intention of commuting zina with the girl alright. If you read the thread from the beginning you would've seen that, but you didn't. And as for the beating, I never deserved it. If they wanted me to back off from their sister they would've approached me like a man and tell me. But they went too far.

You are right when you say I have something to loose if I go after them and it back fires.
Dont make me out to be some kind of predator that will f*ck this innocent girl for revenge.

Don't jump to conclusions waryaa.:birdman::ufdup:
 

Bahal

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War haladlka yaree and go file a police report asap and get all relevant info from the hospital.
 
Waryaa, I never had the intention of commuting zina with the girl alright. If you read the thread from the beginning you would've seen that, but you didn't. And as for the beating, I never deserved it. If they wanted me to back off from their sister they would've approached me like a man and tell me. But they went too far.

You are right when you say I have something to loose if I go after them and it back fires.
Dont make me out to be some kind of predator that will f*ck this innocent girl for revenge.

Don't jump to conclusions waryaa.:birdman::ufdup:

You had no intentions of committing zina with her? So why go on communicating with her even though you know she likes you? You need to see things from their perspective. You gave them no reason to believe your intentions were honourable. You messed up there. Not sure where I said you were going to fornicate with her as revenge...

You're not a predator, you're a man who is only human. You know the hadith about shaytaan being the third. What if you had committed zina - what then? Saaxib, please for the sake of your dunya and akhira if a situation like this occurs either attack it face on - meet the parents - or run, run like the wind. As for retribution - you have no right and it's not worth it even if you did.
 

Dhabaal

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Who decided what we could and could not talk about?

The OP of the thread, he chose the topic of the thread.
And it is a common etiquete on forums to stick to the topic.

OP was wrong for talking to that girl and going behind the girl's father's back. If he had done the honourable thing and seen the father and then got beaten up, he would be the victim. But that is not what happened. He tried to get it on with the girl and he got his butt kicked. Now he wants to start world war three instead of just licking his wounds and moving on. He was in the wrong to begin with and now he wants to kick something else off. I am just telling OP to realise his wrongdoing and not to repeat the same mistake again. If an arab had come complaining about getting his butt kicked by some Somalis because he was trying to get it on with their daughter/sister, I would have said the same thing to him.

This is some next levek stockholm syndrome.

Nevernind if what the OP did was bad or not, the fact that you are emphatizing and symphatizing with the guys who inflicted serious harm and injury over a non-violent offense and non-illegal offense is disturbing.

Lose the double standards you cannot on one hand condemn the the OP and on the other hand give clearance to the Arabs for doing something straight up cowardice and unlawful

" licking his wounds" kulaha , That some sadistic thing to say.
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@ace mooha don't worry, my bad - I didn't realise the girl had told the family. Take high road, walaal and don't ruin your future. Also try not to build an emotional attachment with girls before consulting their fathers in future inshaAllah.

I'm truly sorry for jumping to conclusions and not reading the full story. I hope you can forgive me.
 
What do you feel I am ignoring, walaal?
You seem to invested in the appropriateness and moral repercussions of him being alone with the girl when the real issue is that he was beaten up. Not only that, but you actually want him to cover up a crime. I think you don't know what you're doing & your thinking is messed up.
 
@NoName and @Dhabaal you have touched on the same thing. Yes, I think it is far worse for him to be alone with a non-mahram woman than to be beaten up. Zina is serious to me because it is a major sin. My initial reaction was based off of this.

Of course now I've actually read the extent of wrongdoing the arab lot did, yes you are right they deserve to be held accountable for it. If OP forgives them fair enough. If he doesn't and reports them to the police, fair enough. He is the victim here since he actually did make himself known to the family and they beat him up after - if I understood that correctly.
 
@ChickenOriental the family is a trash, any self respected family would teach their daughter a lesson even stopped her from going to school but breaking and attacking the guy is barbaric thing. Would they hit everyday new guy ? Better to give their daughter a lesson. Wallahi in my university there was a girl who had her big sister a guard for her and followed her everywhere (the family 's last resort to stop her from seeing boy)
 
@Canuck they're wrong for reacting in that way when the couple had been quite up front. To be honest I am tempted to say let them get arrested because I am almost certain they would have done the same had the situation been reversed. I'm sure the tears of the somali mother would not have changed a thing. It's really up to OP how he wants to handle this, but he definitely should not retaliate - that's stupid.

The girl is out of order too. We all know what our parents/siblings are like. If she knew they would go violent she should not have even approached him in the first place. It seems really immature and selfish. If I liked someone that much I wouldn't want to put them in danger.
 
Don't risk your future it's not worth it and you doing well at college and you do have a job, so if you get involved with police, it will leave you mark. About her, her family don't like you nor respect you so what's the point hunging around her.
 
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