Ilhan Omar naive/oblivious decisions could haunt this community for years to come. (FGM)

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RENEE JONES SCHNEIDER, STAR TRIBUNE
Rep. Mary Franson spoke Thursday in Minneapolis during a community education awareness meeting about female genital mutilation. To her right are FGM survivors Fadumo Abdinur and Farhio Khalif.

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RENEE JONES SCHNEIDER, STAR TRIBUNE
Deqa Hussein took pictures as Rep. Mary Franson spoke during Thursday's meeting. Hussein also spoke out at the event encouraging women to be proactive in protecting children.


Concerns about the bill

Franson’s bill makes it a felony for parents to subject their daughters to the procedure and calls for loss of custody and prison terms from five to 20 years, depending on the extent of the injuries. It also increases penalties for those who perform the procedure, which has been illegal since pioneering Minnesota legislation in the 1990s.

notice its been illegal since 1990s

The bill won support from all but four of the 128 House members who voted, including Rep. Ilhan Omar, the country’s first Somali-American legislator.
my fucking goodness, she dont know what she is supporting

Fadumo Abdinur, one of several Somali-American women who testified in favor of the bill, said stiff penalties are needed to root out a practice that leaves girls and women with long-term health problems. Abdinur, who experienced genital cutting, did not get her period until she was 20, and only after a Texas physician partly reversed her procedure. She also suffered painful periods and intercourse.

“I don’t want any girl to go through this,” she said. “I will talk against it for the rest of my life.”

Lul Hersi, a St. Cloud mother of four and a supporter of the bill, says the United States should warn refugee parents against rushing to have their daughters cut before traveling to the United States — and disqualify them from resettlement if they do: “The parents know the risks they’re putting their kids in.”

Fartun Weli of Isuroon, which won a $180,000 federal grant this winter to educate health care providers about the procedure, stresses that she does not condone the practice.

But she and other critics balk at separating girls from their families, which they argue victimizes them a second time. They say they worry about families arriving from places where the practice is deeply rooted. An amendment to Franson’s bill states the penalties apply only if the ritual is practiced in the United States. But Haji Yusuf, a Somali community leader in St. Cloud, questions whether authorities can always readily determine that.
now the sane people are realizing in the last minute the disasterous consequences this bill will have on the community.
while ilhan omar doesnt even realize it yet.


For parents who came to the United States with girls who’d already undergone the procedure, the bill, which mandates reporting to authorities by health care providers and others, could discourage doctor visits.

The bill requires Minnesota’s health commissioner to provide outreach and education about the dangers of female genital mutilation (FGM) in immigrant communities — and to seek private funds to do that. The lack of designated funding for education, including for law enforcement and mandated reporters, is an issue for Ann Hill in the state’s Office of the Ombudsperson for Families, which has also raised concerns about the bill.

Brikti Hiwet, an Ethiopian-American elder and reproductive health lecturer at the University of Minnesota and St. Catherine University who attended Monday’s hearing, said she felt lawmakers had a “knee-jerk reaction” to the issue. She says existing state and federal laws prohibiting the practice are effective.
when even ethiopians realize the real agenda of the bill but Ilhan our representitive is still oblivious

“How can you protect children when you take them away from their families and put them in foster care?” she said.

Hodan Hassan, a mental health clinician, also argues for a less punitive approach.

When I read the bill, my heart sank,” Hassan said. “It criminalizes parents who don’t understand the legality of their actions and don’t have the ability to advocate for themselves.”

Hassan says lawmakers should not scrap the bill but should revisit and revise it.

Weli says she worries the House discussion framed the issue as a Somali community problem when almost a dozen immigrant communities in Minnesota hail from countries that practice genital cutting. At least one of the Minnesota girls whose parents took them to a Michigan doctor now charged with performing the procedure — the case that inspired the House bill — was not Somali, according to child protection documents.

“All our mothers went through this. Some of our sisters who grew up in Africa went through this. Our daughters won’t go through this because so much has changed,” said Abdullah Kiatamba, a West African community leader.
Aim is to protect girls
west africans see the problem with the bill

Franson says the bill’s intent is clear: protecting girls. So is the language in the bill that limits penalties to those who live in the United States when the practice takes place. She says loss of custody must be a consequence of a procedure that causes girls lifelong harm.
re-read this paragraph. they are not after getting rid of the practice but rather breaking up families and creating more criminals for the now privately owned prisons. this type of language is not new to anyone from this country.

“America is the land of the brave and the home of the free,” she said. “Little girls who moved here from other countries have the right to be free from the oppression of female genital mutilation.”
once again, why they talking about freedom and oppression, this is to target a specific community

She pointed to an event the nonprofit Voice of East African Women planned to hold Thursday evening as evidence that immigrant supporters of the bill have already taken on the task of educating communities about it.

But Housley, who met with Weli and Kaade Wallace of the Council for Minnesotans of African Heritage, said she wants to ensure senators get broad input and consider unintended consequences before they act — and time is running out this session.
they are very much intended believe me

When laws get made this quickly, that’s when mistakes get made,” she said.

Kiatamba says the bill’s passage seems to have sparked an open conversation on a rarely discussed issue.

“Something dramatic needs to happen and bring this issue out of the shadows,” he said.



sorry about my editing but i know myself i have short attention span and dont like long articles. this is very important bill. Uncle Sam never helps anyone, ask black americans how bills intended to help them back fired on them, some from those they thought were their democratic allies. Ilhan Omar is very stupid if she supports this bill. Thank god those that do the actual work of protecting young girls from this practice actually see what this bill is and its true intention.
 

John Michael

Free my girl Jodi!
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did you even read this:ayaanswag:

Yes. They're complaining about the bill that could allow children being taken away from families that ilhan is supporting.

My comment was directed towards these shiftless habros using their privates as a means to be gainfully employed. They seemingly have no other skills.
 

John Michael

Free my girl Jodi!
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She's referring to the federal grant

Basically it's the plot calling the kettle black. They 100% ok with little Somali girls privates being a topic for national debate but if one of them/their friends gets their children taken away because of this that's where they draw the line. Xayawano!

The anti fgm movement is gross all around.
 
Yes. They're complaining about the bill that could allow children being taken away from families that ilhan is supporting.

My comment was directed towards these shiftless habros using their privates as a means to be gainfully employed. They seemingly have no other skills.
oh right, i dont even know how fgm stops menstruation but i wont pretend to be an expert on that. you can see they have no clue about the bill or its consequences but why surprised me is that Ilhan Omar supports this. acudubillah
 
does anyone know her email, i will email her my thread. i know this forum made her heart skip a beat on numerous occasions.

You have to spread awareness to your somali constituents. Not through here but through community centers, local coffee shops, mosques, etc.. The community helped give her national profile and now need her. This is a blatant attack on the MS Somali community and she needs to stand up to the dnc state house for her own voters
 
You have to spread awareness to your somali constituents. Not through here but through community centers, local coffee shops, mosques, etc.. The community helped give her national profile and now need her. This is a blatant attack on the MS Somali community and she needs to stand up to the dnc state house for her own voters
you are 100% right but i am afraid tan fariidad ma aha. imagine watching over the elected one more than the hungry rednecks in that government
 

black

live and let die.
Clearly strict measures have to be put in place. Now migrant doctors are being prosecuted bc these ppl can't go without mutilating their childrens' privates. Go back to Africa if you're about that life :camby:

>For parents who came to the United States with girls who’d already undergone the procedure, the bill, which mandates reporting to authorities by health care providers and others, could discourage doctor visits.

I think the idea is to not victimise girls who have already gone through the procedure twice over. As stated in the article, people aren't necessarily opposed to the bill, but are more so looking for a revision.
 

Human

Bellum omnium contra omnes
i have no idea what you are trying to get across

Nothing. It just looks like she is distraught about the message they are trying to express to the audience.

As I support the eradication of FGM, I thought it would be nice to take the micky of the woman as her facial expressions contradict what she possibly believes in.

It's ok, if you didn't get my message.

I respect you
:salute:
 
most important part

The bill won support from all but four of the 128 House members who voted, including Rep. Ilhan Omar, the country’s first Somali-American legislator.

I wouldn't blame her for voting for it since voting against the bill or even abstaining from the vote would not make any difference and would only serve as political ammunition for any future re-election.

I would have a different reaction if she was the one that introduced the bill or if she had the tie vote.
 
Clearly strict measures have to be put in place. Now doctors are being prosecuted bc these ppl can't go without mutilating their childrens' privates. Go back to Africa if you're about that life :camby:
do you understand the ramifications of this bill and its far reaching consequences. do you also understand the motivation behind bills like this and the history they have in this country. i am assuming you are from the uk. you are probably the type that thinks its ngo's and models that are reducing fgm rates rather than real women on the ground often without any support from anyone using islamic teachings. it does not bother me gullible qashins fall for this kind of thing but it bothers me alot when elected officials with power do. I dont support FGM and this bill is not about stopping the practice, it has other sinister intentions.
 
Clearly strict measures have to be put in place. Now doctors are being prosecuted bc these ppl can't go without mutilating their childrens' privates. Go back to Africa if you're about that life :camby:

You're asking for a health epidemic. No somali girl would want to see their parents locked up and be separated from them. The ramifications of this bill will cause those with FGM to ghost their health practitioners.
 
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