Can you give any tangible examples of this being the case?
Ilhan Omar says America should fear white men.
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It will be done in the future and I know u say this in the interest of the Somali people but the threat is actually real. There have already been cases of Somalis living in Can/USA funding terrorist groups, and yes I know it's a small minority but you need to understand that the government can't afford these risks. It's a blow on their trust from the people and national security...the American government works for the benefits of its people not Somali foreigners.
I don't know there's so many factors that affect this aspect. America isn't the same as it used to be. The political and extremist tensions are rising on all spectrums. Also, back in the day the migrants coming to America were skilled (wether low or high) and 'hard working' in their communities, USA isn't seeing as many anymore + there's already illegals swarming from South America.
I mostly agree with the rest tho.
Nothing was ever done for Somalis in her district. In fact, it’s been revealed recently that Ilhan tried to persuade a judge to be lenient to several Somali boys who tried to join Al Qaeda. Imagine that. Somalia is in the midst of chaos while America is stable, and a group of Somali men from Minnesota wanted to join a terrorist group and Ilhan found it appropriate to stick up for them! Am I obliged to defend every Somali, even if they are evil and terroristic?
No it’s not you low-IQ retard. You know nothing about the rest of the world, so please shut the f*ck up.
Unlike you, I’ve actually traveled to other countries. I see the fact that in foreign countries, people support a Senator or Parliamentarian because he comes from their tribe, or their ethnic group. There are hundreds of countries, and identity politics even in stable countries like India are vicious and ethnocentric.
America was the exception to that. America is the country where they try to minimize Identity Politics and they have the belief of “judging people by the content of their character not the colour of their skin” although it isn’t always applied. There’s a reason why millions of Whites supported Obama, even though he’s a Black man with an exotic-sounding name. In fact, more Whites voted for Obama than for John Kerry. This wouldn’t happen in a country that is dominated by identity politics.
Looks like you haven't understood how things work in America. Here is a fact that will clarify for you something perhaps you didn't know:
White people are given the benfit of the doubt and are treated individually, hence, when some white dude blows up a mosque or kills american blacks in a church, no one is held responsible except that white dude as an individual. No one asks every white indidivudal what is wrong with white men and their love of violence. That would be viwed as odd and unwarranted.
The opposite is true for blacks and muslims. They are held responsible for what someone identified with them does.
If you react to these social facts and want to avoid being wrongly suspected, you are climing up the wrong tree saxib. Nobody cares if you are innocent. You are guilty by association.
Racial facts are what they are in America. Every nonwhite has to prove their worth and do extra to be trusted.
And am not asking you to suppprt Ilhan Omar, but YOU FOLKS REFRAIN FROM LIES ABOUT HER AS A COMMUNITY identified with her.
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I don’t know how Ilan made it harder for you guys in America. You guys were almost bombed by white extremists way before the congresswoman came on the scene. So it doesn’t really matter anyways. Some folk are not going to like you regardless.
It’s like you can’t understand anything. People are using ILHAN’S OWN WORDS against her. She gives her opponents ammunition every time she opens her mouth.
When Keith Ellison was in Congress, the first Muslim ever, no one knew about him. He was very lowkey and he tried to get his work done without all of this spotlight and controversy.
No slander was made on this forum. Everything we say here is verifiably true, and if you think this has something to do with Ilhan’s identity, then why do we say nothing about Ahmed Hussen from Canada? Ahmed Hussen keeps his mouth shut, he's much more sophisticated than her, and hence why no one really knows him. He’s not in the spotlight.
It’s about exposure you idiot. The same way how anti-Muslim hate incidents went up after September 11, but it’s not like there wasn’t anti-Muslim hate attacks before 9/11 occurred.
Ilhan has made Somalis more famous in America. And not in a good way. I have personal stories of friends telling me how they’d get treated roughly by random people because they’re Somali, and how they fear allowing their Somali nieces/daughters to walk around alone.
We must live in a different America today. Race is part of America as the oxygyn we breath.
The reason America was better for minorities in the past is the leadership who emphasized the good parts of the American culture and avoided creating social division along race. The ones who engaged in racial dividisions used to do it subtle ways because they were afraid to be condemned as racist. Trump changed all of that and exposed how half the voting population, namely republicans are truly racist people. And his campaign started with questioning Obama's birth place. Clear racism to question an american citizen's birth place. Trump thus was elected based on Race with the help of russian propaganda, added that he was competing against unpopular candidate.
There is diference between worrying about her gaffes and lack of experience, in essence, she needs to be like a hypocrite and not say what she thinks because that is how politics work in America. I get that. But still, her ideals and the potential good work she can do are immensely important as representative of her disrtict. Should we abondon her because half the american population who love trump and think God sent him want her arrested or sent back to Somalia? They hate her for her ethnicity and religion. Trump thinks that way and has zero respect for anybody who isn't white and MAGA.
I do wish she stops giving interviews and be less on twitter to avoid making mistakes. I care about her well being as a somali individual. I also worry about the scrutiny drawn to the somali community in general. Somalis are not all aware of the dangers of giving interviews to FoxNews and similar networks who look for stories that are negative to tell about us as immigrant muslims.
With that said, I am not disowning her because of right wing nutjobs all over the media demanding she be prosecuted for nonexsitent crimes.
Bullshit. That’s how I know you weren’t paying to the world before Trump ran for President.
I’m telling you for a FACT that this Identity Politics garbage started while Obama was President, and this racial anger was constantly promoted by Twitter activists and media figures. This racial paranoia reached its height after the Ferguson riots of 2014, so miss me with that nonsense. Ilhan Omar is taking these underlying tensions and putting it on blast.
It’s like Somalia being a stable country, and then some foreigner moving into Somalia, getting elected, and then use their platform to talk about qabiil politics. How ridiculous would that sound. She needs to sit down and shut up.
LMFAO I just saw this. I'm so glad I voted for her. Her and AOC are like the far left's Trump. Republicans and the alt-right will have diig kar when she gets another term next year.
You make more sense than some on here who will lose big if people like Ilhan Omar are not in congress.
I said my piece. You can keep harping on Ilhan Omar as if you are a concerned individual for her well being and express dishonest opinions. You can also keep singing from the same sheet of music white supremacist bigots all over the place sing from.
The fact that you claim Identity politics started with Obama makes you all around expert I need to talk to.
I must attend to something else here dude, keep shit posting about Ilhan.
Yes, I’d prefer Ilhan not say what she thinks. She thinks America “bullied” Venezuela into poverty. She thinks that the Jewish Stephen Miller is a “White Nationalist”. She thinks that America is going too far in droning Al-Shabab militants. She attacked a group of 15 year old White boys from Covington High School, and then used her platform to spread racial hatred towards a group of TEENAGERS. Now these same White kids are suing her for defamation.
Someone like this shouldn’t be in Congress, let alone express their opinions.
Someone like this shouldn’t be in Congress, let alone express their opinions.
Where were you in 2014? In a coma?
Are you one of those dudes who didn’t pay attention to politics but then suddenly started watching the news once Trump burst onto the scene? Trump has NOT been around for very long, so stop with the revisionist history. And no, I don’t think Obama himself started it, but it definitely started under his watch. This predates Trump.
Well, this is awkward.
You claimed Ilhan made life HARDER for Somalis (capitalisation yours).
Your evidence is (a) 9/11; (b) anecdotal tales of your friends. Good grief!
It's your grasp of logic that made life harder for you. Don't blame Ilhan.
You must’ve been dropped on your head as a child. No one can be this stupid.
Since when did I reference 9/11 as evidence? Do you understand what an example is, or do I have to explain it to you? I said that Muslims did suffer from bigoted attacks in the 1990’s, but it skyrocketed after 9/11 for the simple reason that many Americans who previously never heard of Muslims were now very aware of it due to 9/11. Just like how most Americans weren’t aware of Somalis (except for a minority of Whites) until Ilhan burst onto the political scene.
Learn to understand analogies before you embarrass yourself
Same qabiil as her, we are both MJ.
Omar Maxamud. I’m also a devout Muslim. Check my post history. And you are shameless for allowing Ilhan to use Somalinimo/Islam to her political benefit.
This is what happens when you spend too much time on alt-right twitter. Stop being so fragile.
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