Independence week. Let's agree on something

Yukon_Niner

Ugaas of the supreme gentleman
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We are Somali and our nation was called Somaliland after we took independence from the brits
It was a bunch of lines on a map that ignored clan lines. It's not any more legitimate than the current borders.

I don't get you niggas wallahi, why can't people here just admit qabil is all they give a shit about. What's the point of dressing it up behind colonial borders that's even stupider than the current one? :mjlol:
 
You're too confused to realize you are providing to be a a prime example of that which you are trying to paint others as. Let me demonstrate by splitting your post into its two paragraphs.

It was a bunch of lines on a map that ignored clan lines. It's not any more legitimate than the current borders.

Here you question the legitimacy of Somalilands borders because it ignores clan lines.

I don't get you niggas wallahi, why can't people here just admit qabil is all they give a shit about. What's the point of dressing it up behind colonial borders that's even stupider than the current one? :mjlol:

And yet one sentence later you are trying to tell us that qabiil is all we care about?

Just say qabiil is all you care about and stop trying to project.
:kodaksmiley:
 
It was a bunch of lines on a map that ignored clan lines. It's not any more legitimate than the current borders.

I don't get you niggas wallahi, why can't people here just admit qabil is all they give a shit about. What's the point of dressing it up behind colonial borders that's even stupider than the current one? :mjlol:
Worry about your qabil Federalism country Somaliland waa Qaran not a tribal state.
 

Yukon_Niner

Ugaas of the supreme gentleman
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You're too confused to realize you are providing to be a a prime example of that which you are trying to paint others as. Let me demonstrate by splitting your post into its two paragraphs.



Here you question the legitimacy of Somalilands borders because it ignores clan lines.



And yet one sentence later you are trying to tell us that qabiil is all we care about?

Just say qabiil is all you care about and stop trying to project.
:kodaksmiley:
If I had it my way every backwards savage f*ck who utters their bastardised lineage would be up against a wall. That xaywaan named Barre will always be the failed dickhead who couldn't pull off what every basic indhoyar nation could, wiping out dissenters. Even Syria will recover quicker than any Somali region simply because they have a dictator who's campaign doesn't run on abtirsi that aren't even real.

Because you're too stupid to understand what I was inferring I'll put into bullet points.

  • Somali's were never fully united under the SL or current borders. There's 0 legitimate reasons to change the current borders and revert it, either unite or let everyone split into their shitty tuulo.
  • Switching between claiming it's a legitimate country based on colonial borders / arguing against your own secessionists on the basis of qabil. It's easy to see what's going on.
Indeed it's not hard to see why some random warsan or dhulo wouldn't want to be part of that sithole. It's a clan enclave masquerading as a country. Why lie about it when you can just roll with the FKD shit? And why act surprised when someone points it out? I can hold some level of respect for those who say it outright but acting like a disingenuous gabar everytime someone pokes holes in your mirqaan induced dreams is annoying.
Worry about your qabil Federalism country Somaliland waa Qaran not a tribal state.
I worry about every Somali region saxiib. "country's" and "federal states" that somehow resemble a outline of that cursed bullshit is something I despise. I've visited most regions in Somalia and witnessed people patting themselves on the back because of this shit while living in a shack and getting sent money from relatives abroad.

The fact that people in that cursed place can't unite and brag about crap landheernimo is why your average Somali lives worse than a ay in an cadaan couples home and run off to test their fate in dhegcas slave camps.
 
If I had it my way every backwards savage f*ck who utters their bastardised lineage would be up against a wall. That xaywaan named Barre will always be the failed dickhead who couldn't pull off what every basic indhoyar nation could, wiping out dissenters. Even Syria will recover quicker than any Somali region simply because they have a dictator who's campaign doesn't run on abtirsi that aren't even real.

Because you're too stupid to understand what I was inferring I'll put into bullet points.

  • Somali's were never fully united under the SL or current borders. There's 0 legitimate reasons to change the current borders and revert it, either unite or let everyone split into their shitty tuulo.
  • Switching between claiming it's a legitimate country based on colonial borders / arguing against your own secessionists on the basis of qabil. It's easy to see what's going on.
Indeed it's not hard to see why some random warsan or dhulo wouldn't want to be part of that sithole. It's a clan enclave masquerading as a country. Why lie about it when you can just roll with the FKD shit? And why act surprised when someone points it out? I can hold some level of respect for those who say it outright but acting like a disingenuous gabar everytime someone pokes holes in your mirqaan induced dreams is annoying.

I worry about every Somali region saxiib. "country's" and "federal states" that somehow resemble a outline of that cursed bullshit is something I despise. I've visited most regions in Somalia and witnessed people patting themselves on the back because of this shit while living in a shack and getting sent money from relatives abroad.

The fact that people in that cursed place can't unite and brag about crap landheernimo is why your average Somali lives worse than a ay in an cadaan couples home and run off to test their fate in dhegcas slave camps.
Ok laangab have a nice evening 😁
 

Yukon_Niner

Ugaas of the supreme gentleman
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Ok laangab have a nice evening 😁
Kkkkk this is what I mean. I'm langaab and you're landheere, it's like a broken clock everytime someone points out their guri is naar on earth. Ninyahow I come from a landheere qabil too I even got to meet them and see what they live like. Much like your qabil and every other sucker who had the bad luck of being born there it was shit and not even fit for xaywaan.


Seriously think for a moment, aside from breeding like dooli what else have they achieved. You can even see this when they flew to a civilised place where they have 10 ciyaal in a labo bed guri and the cry when their kids turn out to be qashin :icon lol:
 
Kkkkk this is what I mean. I'm langaab and you're landheere, it's like a broken clock everytime someone points out their guri is naar on earth. Ninyahow I come from a landheere qabil too I even got to meet them and see what they live like. Much like your qabil and every other sucker who had the bad luck of being born there it was shit and not even fit for xaywaan.


Seriously think for a moment, aside from breeding like dooli what else have they achieved. You can even see this when they flew to a civilised place where they have 10 ciyaal in a labo bed guri and the cry when their kids turn out to be qashin :icon lol:
Caadi iska deg I ain't your problem tell that to your leaders 😂
 

Aurelian

Forza Somalia!
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"Whether you are from Somalia, Djibouti or Somaliland"
What is this? Somaliland is a part of Somalia, you are like those who post the federal states flags alongside Somalia's and ask where you from?

"26th June : Somaliland gains independence from the UK
1st July: Somalia gains independence from Italy"

Oh God. Somalia didn't exist at that moment, but Italian somaliland did, and that part of the country who got the independence
 
Because you're too stupid to understand what I was inferring I'll put into bullet points.

  • Somali's were never fully united under the SL or current borders. There's 0 legitimate reasons to change the current borders and revert it, either unite or let everyone split into their shitty tuulo.
  • Switching between claiming it's a legitimate country based on colonial borders / arguing against your own secessionists on the basis of qabil. It's easy to see what's going on.
You like to make stuff up to fit your ever changing argument, so let me educate you a little.

All the constituent clans of Somaliland were agreed on re-establishing the Independence of Somaliland, based on the borders of 26th June 1960. The clan elders of all main Somaliland clans all willingly signed the declaration to re-establish an Independent Somaliland. The SNM was actually against this initially, but after the Dhulbahante Grand Garaad proposed it, and then all clan elders agreed, everyone was on board.
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So you see, Somaliland has 17 very good reasons why it's borders are exactly as they should be. It's clans agreed on it.
 
"26th June : Somaliland gains independence from the UK
1st July: Somalia gains independence from Italy"

Oh God. Somalia didn't exist at that moment, but Italian somaliland did, and that part of the country who got the independence
Such level of ignorance is quite astounding. Somalia was the name the italians had for their colony, Italian Somaliland is what the British referred to it as. See below Reuters article from 24th June 1960 about the upcoming Independence of Somaliland. Look at the map.



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Aurelian

Forza Somalia!
VIP
Such level of ignorance is quite astounding. Somalia was the name the italians had for their colony, Italian Somaliland is what the British referred to it as. See below Reuters article from 24th June 1960 about the upcoming Independence of Somaliland. Look at the map.



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The Italians called it Somalia Italiana, while they called the British one Somalia Britanicca.
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The name of their colony was officially "Somalia Italiana"
 

Aurelian

Forza Somalia!
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You went from saying Somalia didn't exist at the time to admitting that was what the Italians called it.

I can respect a man who admits when he's wrong 👍
Do you realise that you deflecting what I'm saying? There wasn't a state or colony that was officially called Just Somalia. Either Somalia italaiana/Britanicca or Italian/British somaliland.

The country that emerged after unifying these two colonies and what we call Somalia didn't exist at that exact time of 1 July when Italaian somaliland got independence
 

Aurelian

Forza Somalia!
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@Aurelian you really are delusional if you really think we are one country. Your failed state has virtually no authority outside Mogadishu
I don't care about the de facto state, I care about the legality of it. Somalia with its weak pathetic state faught in court with a full functioning state for years, and is about to win. Why, because they used the judiciary for it. What I can do with the de facto with the legitimacy of it?
 
Do you realise that you deflecting what I'm saying? There wasn't a state or colony that was officially called Just Somalia. Either Somalia italaiana/Britanicca or Italian/British somaliland.

The country that emerged after unifying these two colonies and what we call Somalia didn't exist at that exact time of 1 July when Italaian somaliland got independence
Dude, the Reuters newspaper article from 24th June 1960 called the country Somalia. Just in case the date didn't register for you, at that point Somalia was still under the Italian administered UN Trusteeship. Reuters called it that because the Italians called that land Somalia for short, with the full title being Amministrazione fiduciaria italiana della Somalia.
 

Aurelian

Forza Somalia!
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Dude, the Reuters newspaper article from 24th June 1960 called the country Somalia. Just in case the date didn't register for you, at that point Somalia was still under the Italian administered UN Trusteeship. Reuters called it that because the Italians called that land Somalia for short, with the full title being Amministrazione fiduciaria italiana della Somalia.
Still, not just Somalia
 

exposedmeat

i do it anyway i like
Somalia is italian name for the south literally meaning Somaliland in English that's why after the union it was agreed to name the country Somali Republic
i don't get it u say somalia is itlaian given name but call yourselfs somaliland. then don't call yourselves somali if it is itlaian tf, it's not italian f retards it's from samaale, bunch of xayawaans
 
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