INDEPENDENT PUNLAND-POLL & Discussion

[Reer-Bari]

lol my views dont really matter. i was a long time Puntland independence movement for about 9 years. i already swore that i will never step foot in any hawiya land. but i dont mind kismaayo. mogadishi is dead to me. i do support farmaajo though and the federal government sometimes. but i know puntland and the people of puntland wont ever go independant. walahi i used to express my views and get verbally assaulted. till today i still havent met one local puntlander that is willing to leave somalia. puntland has been dragged down for years and our development should of been 10 times what it is if we had our share of the supposed funds allocated to us. mogadishu always supported somaliland against puntland whenever we fueded and refused to arm the dulbahante or gadabuursi to defend themseilves. in the back of my mind i wish a system like UAE. only diasporas think like this . the locals are proud wadanis. even the ones that never seen mogadishu. harti will always be in darnger no matter what when in mogadishu and the same thing that happened in 91 can happen again.

 

[Manzana]

YES!

We can't share a country with mooryaans. It's time for us to go our separate ways.

 

[Bohol]

Most Puntland politicians will never entertain it. It would make more sense taking the Somalia capital to somewhere in Puntland. With the capital comes enormous aid money and political power.

 

[Futurist]

Most Puntland politicians will never entertain it. It would make more sense taking the Somalia capital to somewhere in Puntland. With the capital comes enormous aid money and political power.

Mogadishu will never allow that

 

[GBTarmy]

This thread.

This thread shows the reason why Puntland is safe, stable and developing: its peace loving, intelligent and development oriented people... Unlike certain other regions I have long argued that the northern regions of the Somali peninsula should work closer together. Djibouti, Somaliland and Puntland are keeping the dignity of the Somali people alive.

Somaliland and Puntland already co operate on areas like counter terrorism. But in the short term we need to expand this to environmental protection, disaster & drought response. In the medium term we need to work together and have a joint security arrangement, especially against Southern forces like Al Shabab driven mainly by Somali Bantu and Maay Maay populations, but also against the power grab of extremist unionist centralists who want to consolidate all power, investment, economic development and aid in Mogadishu.

There is only one relatively small issue between Puntland and Somaliland, which is the border issue. We have already de facto got a border demarcated, but it just needs to be formalised. I am willing to give up some areas of far eastern Sanaag and Sool on the condition that Puntland recognises Somaliland's independence unconditionally and unequivocally. We can then be the first country to recognise Puntland in return, if you wish to remove yourselves from the deadweight that is South Somalia (hopeless region).

It is unrealistic to expect that Somaliland will give up its historical boundaries having been the Republic of Somaliland since 26th of June 1960. But as Somaliland is the largest Somali government in the region, it has a duty to ensure the safety and security of all people in the region. I have a lot of respect for Puntland and if it were up to me, we would have one joint country for Northern and East Somalis.

I think Puntland should throw its full support behind independence if Somaliland agrees to power sharing. It would be called the Adal republic. We could have the political capital in Hargeisa, legislature/parliament in Garowe. We would have to port cities in Berbera and Boosaaso. We would have many large cities of +300,000 people like Boosaso, Burao, Boorama, Galkacyo and Hargeisa. Numerous medium sized cities like Las Anod, Garowe, Erigabo, Berbera, Gabiley etc. We could have a joint standing military of 100,000 soldiers. Even tiny Eritrea of 4m has an active military of 320,000. Somaliland and Puntland would heave a joint population of 6.5m people

The peaceful, development loving people of the North united in a new Somaliland or Adal Republic.

what's your subclan?

 

[Bohol]

Mogadishu will never allow that

During AY era in the early days the Government capital was Baydhabo.

 

[Futurist]

That was because Islamic Courts Union was in control of Mogadishu. TFG didnt have much of a choice

 

[Abdalla]

OMG why wasn't I tagged while we beesha had a major meeting?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Its against the laws of Allah to divide the muslims anyone for independence from other muslims is directly opposed to the will of the most sublime.

Laakinse if tomorrow somaliland declare that they are no longer a muslim people then puntland must allow somaliland buco berbera and hargaisa to join ethiopia

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Yes.

I've came to an understanding that Puntland outgrew Somalia. We work as a Country on their own. What benefits are we getting by still hanging onto Somalia? Somalia is dead and gone and sadly it won't be back to what is used to be. For those are who scared of not forming foreign relations, Puntland does have foreign relations, just to name a few, the U.S (espicially Minnesota) Norway and so forth. If we make it our goal to stand as an independent Country I believe we would surpass some Countries in the western world, let's not forget Puntland is sitting on oil but who's always making excuses not to drill? (Somalia). Puntland has every right to stand on its own. We must and we should.

 

[Mehmet]

Since France and other power-brokers are empowering Ethiopia and Kenya to annex Somalia. Are your ready to declare independence?

We need to preserve ourselves before these undignified Mooryaan in Moryaandishu take us down with them FOREVER. Do you want to save Puntland or go down with the same people who caused the civil war?

Say YES/NO with your explanation below.

I don't trust polls

@Reiko @Gambar @halwa @Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Suldaanka @Karim @Cabdi @Farm @Reer-Bari @DR-Osman Abdullah etc, etc, etc.

Forgot all the Puntite usernames.

Too late now babe for yall to leave

 

[Mehmet]

I would say Yes. but I don't wanna see Puntland get stuck in limbo with no international recognition like certain people.

Loool stuck yes but not for nearly 30 years like yall neighbors

 

[Mehmet]

All of Las Anod support Somaliland? LIES!!!! You are so lucky that I have to be somewhere in 20 mins. I'll let the rest of the Dhulbahante go in on your stupid arse. xx

Are you same subclan as him with isaaq mother

 

[Mehmet]

Second you guys become countries is when the rest invade yall loool and than what

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@PuntiteQueen we already have a secession clause in our constitution, if the FGS doesn’t secure its territory or tries to centralize we have the right to secede.

Exactly!!!

We just need to prove to other Puntites that Mogadishu is a failure and we need to escape from it.
Luckily for us, Aaran Jaan (Deni's gang), are not likely to be Mogadishu's puppets.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Guys do you realise that Farole's group, Aaran Jaan is pro-Somaliland?

We can convince them to work on a power-sharing deal and to apply for independence together.
2 separate Northern States.

Mark my words, Aaran Jaan will not instigate warfare in SSC and we don't want to shed blood.

Dhulos and Warsans need to decide who to leave with.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

This thread.

This thread shows the reason why Puntland is safe, stable and developing: its peace loving, intelligent and development oriented people... Unlike certain other regions I have long argued that the northern regions of the Somali peninsula should work closer together. Djibouti, Somaliland and Puntland are keeping the dignity of the Somali people alive.

Somaliland and Puntland already co operate on areas like counter terrorism. But in the short term we need to expand this to environmental protection, disaster & drought response. In the medium term we need to work together and have a joint security arrangement, especially against Southern forces like Al Shabab driven mainly by Somali Bantu and Maay Maay populations, but also against the power grab of extremist unionist centralists who want to consolidate all power, investment, economic development and aid in Mogadishu.

There is only one relatively small issue between Puntland and Somaliland, which is the border issue. We have already de facto got a border demarcated, but it just needs to be formalised. I am willing to give up some areas of far eastern Sanaag and Sool on the condition that Puntland recognises Somaliland's independence unconditionally and unequivocally. We can then be the first country to recognise Puntland in return, if you wish to remove yourselves from the deadweight that is South Somalia (hopeless region).

It is unrealistic to expect that Somaliland will give up its historical boundaries having been the Republic of Somaliland since 26th of June 1960. But as Somaliland is the largest Somali government in the region, it has a duty to ensure the safety and security of all people in the region. I have a lot of respect for Puntland and if it were up to me, we would have one joint country for Northern and East Somalis.

I think Puntland should throw its full support behind independence if Somaliland agrees to power sharing. It would be called the Adal republic. We could have the political capital in Hargeisa, legislature/parliament in Garowe. We would have to port cities in Berbera and Boosaaso. We would have many large cities of +300,000 people like Boosaso, Burao, Boorama, Galkacyo and Hargeisa. Numerous medium sized cities like Las Anod, Garowe, Erigabo, Berbera, Gabiley etc. We could have a joint standing military of 100,000 soldiers. Even tiny Eritrea of 4m has an active military of 320,000. Somaliland and Puntland would heave a joint population of 6.5m people

The peaceful, development loving people of the North united in a new Somaliland or Adal Republic.

Love the plan!



Since we are the last independent Somalis standing, we might as well join forces.
Like UAE, power-sharing.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I would say Yes. but I don't wanna see Puntland get stuck in limbo with no international recognition like certain people.

If we join Somaliland in seeking independence, we will make enough noise to get international attention and sympathy.

They would free us, one state= can be ignored, 2, NOPE.

FREE THE NORTH!

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Most Puntland politicians will never entertain it. It would make more sense taking the Somalia capital to somewhere in Puntland. With the capital comes enormous aid money and political power.

Aaran Jaan might entertain it.

They are Puntland's political and business mafia, they can only care about $ and Mogadishu likes to stop Puntland from getting that.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

lol my views dont really matter. i was a long time Puntland independence movement for about 9 years. i already swore that i will never step foot in any hawiya land. but i dont mind kismaayo. mogadishi is dead to me. i do support farmaajo though and the federal government sometimes. but i know puntland and the people of puntland wont ever go independant. walahi i used to express my views and get verbally assaulted. till today i still havent met one local puntlander that is willing to leave somalia. puntland has been dragged down for years and our development should of been 10 times what it is if we had our share of the supposed funds allocated to us. mogadishu always supported somaliland against puntland whenever we fueded and refused to arm the dulbahante or gadabuursi to defend themseilves. in the back of my mind i wish a system like UAE. only diasporas think like this . the locals are proud wadanis. even the ones that never seen mogadishu. harti will always be in darnger no matter what when in mogadishu and the same thing that happened in 91 can happen again.

Don't give up.

So far we have

MJs
Dashishe
Dhulbahante

Sspotters who are pro-independence.

The VAST majority of Puntites on this website are pro-PIM.

Reer Bari's back home don't remember the civil war and they don't see major conflicts up-close.
They have not been educated on the evil nature of Mogadishu.

We need to show them the light.