Is France and Ethiopia playing Somaliland?

Allegedly SL kidnapped a GX former ICU member and tried to bribe him to infiltrate the Gacan Lubaax movement and say we are fighting infedels - so SL can get sympathy and moral high ground from the international community.

Allegedly Ina Bixi offered him a French passport (although false promise) if he obliged. This piqued my interest, as if the well known gx man was lying, why say France and not the UK who have better relations with the SL.

It makes sense as behind the scenes Djibouti, which is just an extension of France, will uphold their agreement of suppling SL with weapons, with the blessings of France

Civil war will rage in SL, with one side claiming to be fighting argagixiso.

This will give a perfectly moral ‘incentive’ for Ethiopia to swoop in, under the guise of ‘peace keeping’, and the international community won’t care, but even support it because atp they will see Somalis as unable to govern and even ‘peaceful’ SL destroyed thru civil war.

And we all know what Abiye Ahmed said just recently, if I remember correctly ‘We will take a port either peacefully, or by force’. The only viable option he has from a logical perspective is Berbera, which Ethiopia own a large stage in.

Lastly, this is where the final piece of the puzzle comes in, and which cements my theory. It’s not secret France has been training and propping up Ethiopias Navy. Just recently 30k navy troops came back from training in France (although this needs to be confirmed).

Why would landlocked Ethiopia need a Navy, especially when some of its population is literally starving. Because this is a much bigger PRIORITY for them and a geopolitical chess game. They are probably planning for a potential war, mostly naval, with Egypt by 2040. SL got too big for it’s boots and aggravated Ethiopia by threatening them with an Egyptian Base in Berbera.

This is a plan France Ethiopia Kenya and Djibouti have been working on for a long time now and many, even in this forum, were warning of this a few years ago. Although SL civil war totally sped up the process.
 

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Jeegan make my blood boil. But this would be even worse than anything they’ve done so far. Dhul somaliyeed somali ba leh.

what doesn’t make sense is IOG hand in this. His wife isaaq, would he still throw SL under the bus like that? It wouldn’t be suprising since he was like this when cisse were fending off afar
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Jeegan make my blood boil. But this would be even worse than anything they’ve done so far. Dhul somaliyeed somali ba leh.

what doesn’t make sense is IOG hand in this. His wife isaaq, would he still throw SL under the bus like that? It wouldn’t be suprising since he was like this when cisse were fending off afar
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It seems iog nothing more than a western puppet, and in the world of politics there is no loyalty. Biixi is stupid and can’t see he’s being played. The man is fool and thinks djibouti would just supply him for free, without anything in return.
 
Allegedly SL kidnapped a GX former ICU member and tried to bribe him to infiltrate the Gacan Lubaax movement and say we are fighting infedels - so SL can get sympathy and moral high ground from the international community.

Allegedly Ina Bixi offered him a French passport (although false promise) if he obliged. This piqued my interest, as if the well known gx man was lying, why say France and not the UK who have better relations with the SL.

It makes sense as behind the scenes Djibouti, which is just an extension of France, will uphold their agreement of suppling SL with weapons, with the blessings of France

Civil war will rage in SL, with one side claiming to be fighting argagixiso.

This will give a perfectly moral ‘incentive’ for Ethiopia to swoop in, under the guise of ‘peace keeping’, and the international community won’t care, but even support it because atp they will see Somalis as unable to govern and even ‘peaceful’ SL destroyed thru civil war.

And we all know what Abiye Ahmed said just recently, if I remember correctly ‘We will take a port either peacefully, or by force’. The only viable option he has from a logical perspective is Berbera, which Ethiopia own a large stage in.

Lastly, this is where the final piece of the puzzle comes in, and which cements my theory. It’s not secret France has been training and propping up Ethiopias Navy. Just recently 30k navy troops came back from training in France (although this needs to be confirmed).

Why would landlocked Ethiopia need a Navy, especially when some of its population is literally starving. Because this is a much bigger PRIORITY for them and a geopolitical chess game. They are probably planning for a potential war, mostly naval, with Egypt by 2040. SL got too big for it’s boots and aggravated Ethiopia by threatening them with an Egyptian Base in Berbera.

This is a plan France Ethiopia Kenya and Djibouti have been working on for a long time now and many, even in this forum, were warning of this a few years ago. Although SL civil war totally sped up the process.
That's a stupid concipracy theory as France has no interset in Somali affairs and that claim doesn't even make sense and you probably heard it from that guy in the US Cali Xarari.

Ethiopia isn't interseted in Somali ports but the Eritrean one specfically Massawa port where there's infrastructure of the old Ethiopian state that connects to it exists.
 
That's a stupid concipracy theory as France has no interset in Somali affairs and that claim doesn't even make sense and you probably heard it from that guy in the US Cali Xarari.

Ethiopia isn't interseted in Somali ports but the Eritrean one specfically Massawa port where there's infrastructure of the old Ethiopian state that connects to it exists.
France manipulate African affairs either directly or indirectly using proxies. How can France have no influence in Somalia when its former colony is literally supplying SL with weapons. And we all know France is keeping its firm eye on Africa currently.

Eritrea won’t allow Ethiopia to just take its port. Nor can Abiye dare to fight with Eritrea as they have a capable army with a huge military personnel. With the war on tigray just finishing to add that, you can consider Eritrea off the table.

Now you might have been able to silence my claim with ‘conspiracy theory’ a few years ago, but just recently as per Abiyes words he said ‘ we take over a port either peacefully or by force’. Your choice if you want to put your head under the sand but we all know it’s a serious scenario that could happen.

Furthermore, I don’t even know who Cali haraari is lol😂
 
France manipulate African affairs either directly or indirectly using proxies. How can France have no influence in Somalia when its former colony is literally supplying SL with weapons. And we all know France is keeping its firm eye on Africa currently.

Eritrea won’t allow Ethiopia to just take its port. Nor can Abiye dare to fight with Eritrea as they have a capable army with a huge military personnel. With the war on tigray just finishing to add that, you can consider Eritrea off the table.

Now you might have been able to silence my claim with ‘conspiracy theory’ a few years ago, but just recently as per Abiyes words he said ‘ we take over a port either peacefully or by force’. Your choice if you want to put your head under the sand but we all know it’s a serious scenario that could happen.

Furthermore, I don’t even know who Cali haraari is lol😂
France doesn't interfere in non francaphone african counyry that it doesn't have any historical colonial legacy with and your point aout Djibouti supplying arms to Somaliland just shows how ingorant you're about that state affairs as SL got all its weapons that it has been stockpiling for 30 years from the black market which is not difficult to acquire if you're state as the size of Somaliland.

Ofc Eritrea won't allow it but that doesn't change Ethiopia's ambitions of getting Eritrean ports an ambition that existed since the previous emperor Haile Selessie times.
 

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How can we protect unrecognized Somaliland from the new Ethiopian navy? Do we want to?
 

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France doesn't interfere in non francaphone african counyry that it doesn't have any historical colonial legacy with and your point aout Djibouti supplying arms to Somaliland just shows how ingorant you're about that state affairs as SL got all its weapons that it has been stockpiling for 30 years from the black market which is not difficult to acquire if you're state as the size of Somaliland.

Ofc Eritrea won't allow it but that doesn't change Ethiopia's ambitions of getting Eritrean ports an ambition that existed since the previous emperor Haile Selessie times.
I don’t have an article handy atm. But a few years ago the French president had talks with abiy and uhuru about somalia without any form of our government being there. They have an interest to some degree but they’re just not as hands on as UAE, kenya, US, or Ethiopia.


How can we protect unrecognized Somaliland from the new Ethiopian navy? Do we want to?
It might just be the right play to sit it out and take territory while their busy fighting. To me they’re nearly the same, but having jeegan as neighbors>>>xabashi gaalo neighbors :reallymaury:
 

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I don’t have an article handy atm. But a few years ago the French president had talks with abiy and uhuru about somalia without any form of our government being there. They have an interest to some degree but they’re just not as hands on as UAE, kenya, US, or Ethiopia.



It might just be the right play to sit it out and take territory while their busy fighting. To me they’re nearly the same, but having jeegan as neighbors>>>xabashi gaalo neighbors :reallymaury:
The French are literally training Ethiopia. There's only one purpose as Eritrea is a strong sovereign nation. @Arkan wants to cut a deal but I don't know, he must convince me.
 
How can we protect unrecognized Somaliland from the new Ethiopian navy? Do we want to?
If Ethiopia takes Somaliland with the blessing of the international community, it's only a matter of time until they control Somalia as well. They'll expand from Somaliland bit by bit, town by town. 30 years down the and road your being governed from Addis Ababa.
 
If Ethiopia takes Somaliland with the blessing of the international community, it's only a matter of time until they control Somalia as well. They'll expand from Somaliland bit by bit, town by town. 30 years down the and road your being governed from Addis Ababa.
The IC will be happy for them to take it. How is Bixi when SL isn’t even recognised going to tell the UN and IC to fck off when they condemn Lascanood violations.

And Yh I think just straight up taking SL would be too much of a burden, especially the East. Hargeisa and Western towns will be much easier, there’s already Ethiopian flags everywhere in Hargeisa and oromos are at least 5-10% of the pop there already. Integration will be slow.
 

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