Is the situation in babile real or fake

[Galool]

This is Koora where there were the recent attacks. It is part of the Somali State and is famous for its elephants.

 

[GaradShabeel]

How big are the Somali populations in east and west hararghe today ?

It's hard to estimate. The gov't includes ethnicity in census, but they are not trustworthy. Especially in mixed and border areas. Since a lot of these people speak Oromos and are integrated into the region; many are counted as Oromos.

 

[Step a side]

Sxb @Duucale1 u see oromo don't show mercy to small groups who join them

No one joined no one brother. The Jigjiga admin is the root cause of this division. They are behind the current division. There is a special place in hell for corrupt leaders.

 

[Step a side]

This guy is a good source on the conflict

He is a Gidir Karanle elder who is familiar with the region.

 

[Step a side]

Large swaths of the Babili district is included in the Oromia region when you look at the official map of the country.

It seems like the same phenomenon is apparent alongside all of our borders with Oromia. I've yet to understand how it even happened

It’s clear, they want to expand further into our territory and reach the ocean. Gorilla warfare is the only answer. We need to ignore Cagjar and the slave administration he is part off. We need to unite once again like our forefathers did. Another Garaad Mataan of Geri is what we need. I’m sure if we started this new grassroots movement, cagjar, Addis and the UN would call us terrorists. But we need to ignore that and continue fighting just like the Taliban did. This is the only way and has always been the only way.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

He is a Gidir Karanle elder who is familiar with the region.

His twitter schooled me to a lot of Somali history especially in hararghe area and different Somali tribes

 

[Shaygoosh]

AUN

 

[GaradShabeel]

It’s clear, they want to expand further into our territory and reach the ocean. Gorilla warfare is the only answer. We need to ignore Cagjar and the slave administration he is part off. We need to unite once again like our forefathers did. Another Garaad Mataan of Geri is what we need. I’m sure if we started this new grassroots movement, cagjar, Addis and the UN would call us terrorists. But we need to ignore that and continue fighting just like the Taliban did. This is the only way and has always been the only way.

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[GaradShabeel]

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[Abba Sadacha]

I don't know I ain't getting much news from Facebook side of Somali but am hearing alot of news from Amhara and diaspora Somalis

What do you think... some Amhara's desperately want the support of somali's and others against ''ze oromo threat,'' and this babile news is coming at a time when some of them are being whipped like bad children in their region... hmmm things that make you think?

 

[Cartan Boos]

What do you think... some Amhara's desperately want the support of somali's and others against ''ze oromo threat,'' and this babile news is coming at a time when some of them are being whipped like bad children in their region... hmmm things that make you think?

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[Abba Sadacha]

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I do not hate entire groups or nations, just evil individuals.

 

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[Noble]

@Step a side Is this the correct Map of Babile? which part is the oromo controlled babile district

 

[Step a side]

@Step a side Is this the correct Map of Babile? which part is the oromo controlled babile district View attachment 268002

Oromo claim over half the territory brother including Babile town, in the 90s before the regions were defined Babile Town had many political parties setting up office including OPDO, UPD and ESDL, this area was historically peaceful between the two ethniticies during the Derg and Selassie but since the 90s the conflict still exist but it is a frozen conflict that can erupt any time, the referendum was preceeded by a PM appointed committee that determined what kebeles and towns are to be delineated which led to the referendum that was again conducted questionably and never accepted

Read the last line of the first paragraph here "there has been continuous complaints about how the referendum was conducted and administered”

 

[Noble]

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Oromo claim over half the territory brother including Babile town, in the 90s before the regions were defined Babile Town had many political parties setting up office including OPDO, UPD and ESDL, this area was historically peaceful between the two ethniticies during the Derg and Selassie but since the 90s the conflict still exist but it is a frozen conflict that can erupt any time, the referendum was preceeded by a PM appointed committee that determined what kebeles and towns are to be delineated which led to the referendum that was again conducted questionably and never accepted

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Read the last line of the first paragraph here "there has been continuous complaints about how the referendum was conducted and administered”

what about the afran qallo hawiye in babile

 

[Step a side]

Maxamad cali a HY military leader of SNM former WSLF and Afraad commander mentions in his biographgy his deputy in the Ahmed Gurey batallion of 77 was a Karanle called Axmad Cali Nuur a Gidir Karanle, after 77 was over he continued a guerilla war in Babile area, his post was inherited by Cali Xeeydar another Gidir who became a General during the TPLF era

Here is reference below

 

[Step a side]

what about the afran qallo hawiye in babile

I got a whole pdf about them, but i will get you the useful bits

Prepping it now