Israeli Airlines İgnored Somaliland Airspace Radio and Proceeded to Follow Mogadishu

[Itsnotthateasy]

Yeah perfect we have an example of the mentality behind this move jazakallah.

Its SL exerting pressure with the leverage it has. Right now, nobody is hearing the SL case , but now theres a chance theres intl arbitration between sl and som, which would be a big step in legitimacy.

But what do you think happens if hsm doesnt chimp out and planes stop flying to hargeisa airport?

Somalia just needs let it go.

Countries have let territories go before but only southern Somalis are psychotically opposed to it. The political elites in Somalia think other Somali territories belong to them, the people can be exterminated if necessary. The normal people believe in some myth called Somalinimo which is the quickest way to get yourself killed.

If Somalia keeps exploiting their tools we will have to work more closely with Ethiopia overcoming the blockade with no direct flights just connecting flights from Ethiopia. It's better than being punked by some fake governemnt in Mogadishu.

 

[LiveFrom]

Somalia just needs let it go.

Countries have let territories go before but only southern Somalias are psychotically opposed to it. The political elites in Somalia think other Somali territories belong to them, the people can be exterminated if necessary. The normal people believe in some myth called Somalinimo which is the quickest way to get yourself killed.

If Somalia keeps exploiting their tools we will have to work more closely with Ethiopia overcoming the blockade with no direct flights just connecting flights from Ethiopia. It's better than being punked by some fake governemnt in Mogadishu.

Damn this is what the mean by sl propaganda cuts deep.

You really think countries should balkanize themselves for ... good vibes?

You know with your whole heart somalia doesnt "need" to let go, SL needs to make it, and the air traffic situation is a measure towards that. You cant just say that? Gotta go on some weird tirade about how you hate somalia but need their permission for independence? Peculiar

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Damn this is what the mean by sl propaganda cuts deep.

You really think countries should balkanize themselves for ... good vibes?

You know with your whole heart somalia doesnt "need" to let go, SL needs to make it, and the air traffic situation is a measure towards that. You cant just say that? Gotta go on some weird tirade about how you hate somalia but need their permission for independence? Peculiar

There's no propaganda the last 40 years has shown there's something abnormal in the south by all measures and standards. The abnormality has many different forms social, poltical and religious. Most people would agree this is gone beyond vibes.

We want to peace out but unfortunately the south can make it close to impossible even without much of government. True independence requires the south to come to its senses but we can achieve independence from the south by allying with neighbours which is the most important thing.

We don't be shackled to this bullshit. Even when you hear it you still can't accept it. So it's not about what this action will do or that one. Just let it go.

 

[RiceMuncher]

Somalia just needs let it go.

Countries have let territories go before but only southern Somalis are psychotically opposed to it. The political elites in Somalia think other Somali territories belong to them, the people can be exterminated if necessary. The normal people believe in some myth called Somalinimo which is the quickest way to get yourself killed.

If Somalia keeps exploiting their tools we will have to work more closely with Ethiopia overcoming the blockade with no direct flights just connecting flights from Ethiopia. It's better than being punked by some fake governemnt in Mogadishu.

You live in your own world brother. There's no qabiil in Somalia who will want to be part of a country they percieve wronged them if another qabiil with the same sentiment gets to have their own country and Somalia will cease to exist. It's that simple. Siad Barre killed my grandfather in a cruel way and my qabiil was wronged in a unimaginably way.

How do you suppose we solve this issue? How about the issue of multiple ethnicities fighting for their own independence in Africa? Give them all independence like some kind of Oprah?

Working closely with Ethiopia is not a threat as SNM and the rest of the somali rebels were funded by them. It's always been a xabashi project to keep our country divided but they won't and can't recognise a somali region. They're one of the countries with multiple ethnicities who wants to secede, including our own ppl locked up in that colonial project. If they open that Pandora they'll only reap what they sow.

 

[RiceMuncher]

There's no propaganda the last 40 years has shown there's something abnormal in the south by all measures and standards. The abnormality has many different forms social, poltical and religious. Most people would agree this is gone beyond vibes.

We want to peace out but unfortunately the south can make it close to impossible even without much of government. True independence requires the south to come to its senses but we can achieve independence from the south by allying with neighbours which is the most important thing.

We don't be shackled to this bullshit. Even when you hear it you still can't accept it. So it's not about what this action will do or that one. Just let it go.

The abnormality you're talking about was Ethiopia holding the weight so there could never be a winner. Many times a qabiil almost took the whole south only for the other qabiil to return heavily armed. You want to break a country you keep their capital in turmoil. It's geopolitics and proxies doing the bidding. Look at it from a somali pov nvm qabiil.

 

[LiveFrom]

You live in your own world brother. There's no qabiil in Somalia who will want to be part of a country they percieve wronged them if another qabiil with the same sentiment gets to have their own country and Somalia will cease to exist. It's that simple. Siad Barre killed my grandfather in a cruel way and my qabiil was wronged in a unimaginably way.

How do you suppose we solve this issue? How about the issue of multiple ethnicities fighting for their own independence in Africa? Give them all independence like some kind of Oprah?

Working closely with Ethiopia is not a threat as SNM and the rest of the somali rebels were funded by them. It's always been a xabashi project to keep our country divided but they won't and can't recognise a somali region. They're one of the countries with multiple ethnicities who wants to secede, including our own ppl locked up in that colonial project. If they open that Pandora they'll only reap what they sow.

Its a doomed project with the adherents not recognizing

-you seek recognition / cooperation from the FGS that you antagonize and destabilize on an intl stage
-the ONLY country that would dream of supporting the project, Ethiopia, would NEVER recognize sl as a sovereign state due to their own ethnic division issues. At best theyd look to incorporate it into et
-youve lost 1/3 of the land previously claimed to SL, with Awdal clearly withdrawing from the sl project, another 1/3

Its a sight to behold

 

[Zak12]

Somalia just needs let it go.

Countries have let territories go before but only southern Somalis are psychotically opposed to it. The political elites in Somalia think other Somali territories belong to them, the people can be exterminated if necessary. The normal people believe in some myth called Somalinimo which is the quickest way to get yourself killed.

If Somalia keeps exploiting their tools we will have to work more closely with Ethiopia overcoming the blockade with no direct flights just connecting flights from Ethiopia. It's better than being punked by some fake governemnt in Mogadishu.

If you want to leave then be prepared to shed hundreds of thousands of lives for it. That was what the South Sudanese had to do in order to force Sudan to give them independence.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

If you want to leave then be prepared to shed hundreds of thousands of lives for it. That was what the South Sudanese had to do in order to force Sudan to give them independence.

All that talk is over we are just at the political stage. We just need recognition and that's the end of that chapter.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Its a doomed project with the adherents not recognizing

-you seek recognition / cooperation from the FGS that you antagonize and destabilize on an intl stage
-the ONLY country that would dream of supporting the project, Ethiopia, would NEVER recognize sl as a sovereign state due to their own ethnic division issues. At best theyd look to incorporate it into et
-youve lost 1/3 of the land previously claimed to SL, with Awdal clearly withdrawing from the sl project, another 1/3

Its a sight to behold

Ethiopia has everything to gain by recognizing Somaliland and you know it. And it won't only be Ethiopia but they will be the main partner going forward.

 

[Zak12]

All that talk is over we are just at the political stage. We just need recognition and that's the end of that chapter.

The UN won't give it to you.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

The UN won't give it to you.

Better to be partially recognized than nothing.

 

[LiveFrom]

Ethiopia has everything to gain by recognizing Somaliland and you know it. And it won't only be Ethiopia but they will be the main partner going forward.

Im confused, if they have everything to gain why dont they do it?

Surely recognition from ethiopia is around the corner, itd help them get the sea access that theyre crying for no?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Im confused, if they have everything to gain why dont they do it?

Surely recognition from ethiopia is around the corner, itd help them get the sea access that theyre crying for no?

They are convincing other African countries right now so a few recongitions come together.

 

[LiveFrom]

They are convincing other African countries right now so a few recongitions come together.

That actually makes sense, you dont see how that might enflame their ethnic divisions though?

Ethiopias diplomatic influence is a paper dragon, states have no interest in bending the knee to them (helping them get port access) for nothing, and eth doesnt have much to give

 

[reer]

They are convincing other African countries right now so a few recongitions come together.

i have a bit of admiration for the persistence of isaaqs that believe in ictiraaf is coming. imagine of all somalis had that and channeled it elsewhere.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

You live in your own world brother. There's no qabiil in Somalia who will want to be part of a country they percieve wronged them if another qabiil with the same sentiment gets to have their own country and Somalia will cease to exist. It's that simple. Siad Barre killed my grandfather in a cruel way and my qabiil was wronged in a unimaginably way.

How do you suppose we solve this issue? How about the issue of multiple ethnicities fighting for their own independence in Africa? Give them all independence like some kind of Oprah?

Working closely with Ethiopia is not a threat as SNM and the rest of the somali rebels were funded by them. It's always been a xabashi project to keep our country divided but they won't and can't recognise a somali region. They're one of the countries with multiple ethnicities who wants to secede, including our own ppl locked up in that colonial project. If they open that Pandora they'll only reap what they sow.

Somalia needs to cease to exist or go under UN trusteeship with an African President.

 

[Celery]

Somaliland would prefer the ICAO take over airspace management again and not the Somali Government because they are using it as a tool of oppression but in the meantime Somaliland will control where it can.

Tool of oppression? A country managing its airspace is oppression? Let me guess your people claim to have a country so they should mange the airspace.

 

[Zak12]

Somalia needs to cease to exist or go under UN trusteeship with an African President.

It already did in the 90s and we saw what happened

 

[Celery]

Somalia just needs let it go.

Countries have let territories go before but only southern Somalis are psychotically opposed to it. The political elites in Somalia think other Somali territories belong to them, the people can be exterminated if necessary. The normal people believe in some myth called Somalinimo which is the quickest way to get yourself killed.

If Somalia keeps exploiting their tools we will have to work more closely with Ethiopia overcoming the blockade with no direct flights just connecting flights from Ethiopia. It's better than being punked by some fake governemnt in Mogadishu.

You are HILARIOUS

 

[Waryaamus]

Somaliland would prefer the ICAO take over airspace management again and not the Somali Government because they are using it as a tool of oppression but in the meantime Somaliland will control where it can.

You’re overreacting unless you’re joking.